[BobCarl]

ok .... game isn't finished yet .... in OT ... fuck Gruden anyway Win or Lose... I will explain later ... maybe tomorrow after I sober up

[BobCarl]

I may have to explain tomorrow why this belongs outside of the "other NFL game" thread

[BobCarl]

Game over! Raiders win! .... still FUCK YOU Gruden. I will explain later (or tomorrow)

[Rams1PlateSince1976]

Did he run over your dog???

Mike Tyson once button-holed a UPI reporter saying one of your trucks ran over my dog. Luckily for the reporter Tyson's agent intervened and told Mike that it was a UPS truck. The reporter lived.

[Gareth]

Game over! Raiders win! .... still FUCK YOU Gruden. I will explain later (or tomorrow)

We are all on pins and needles.

[ramsrams]

We are all on pins and needles.

Did you mean gins and needles? Apologies, Bob, couldn’t resist.

As if I’m one to talk, with the annual Mississauga summit meeting here this Wednesday/Thursday with my buddy Canuck. Copious quantities are always consumed, as we solve the world’s problems.

If only we could remember the next day...

[Hacksaw]

Who's Guden?

Or is that a promise you made a gal with a Swedish accent?

[69superbowl]

What a minute Hacksaw, I've be reading BobCarl for more than 10 years (more like 13, I think) with an American accent, when all this time he's had a Swedish one?

Shit. I gotta start over at RRFs. Hope the archives are working...

[AvengerRam]

SILENCE!!!!!!!!

IKEA!!!!!!!

(With apologies to Jeff Dunham and people who hate ridiculous puns)

[BobCarl]

... fuck Gruden anyway Win or Lose... I will explain later ...

yes fuck Gruden .... ok he has some redeeming qualities ... but the guy is going to give me a heart attack.

for the last three games, he pissed around and let each game come down to a "last possession" game. that is bullshit All three teams, he had the game in hand and could have easily steamrolled to victory.

Al Davis pulled this shit too ... forced the game to be "won or lost" at the end. Back in the day, I've seen John Madden, Tom Flores, and even Art Shell ... I'd seen them have the game in full control in the early going, and then watch them pick up the phone on the sideline for a "call from upstairs", and see their excited faces turn to dejection, then the game reverses gears the opposition gets back into the game and it goes down to the end ... you lose some of those games, and Al Davis was willing to lose a game or two just to make his "brand" exciting.

The close games only built up excitement for the team, for the season, for next year ... It is a business move.

It makes me sick that Gruden is pulling this bullshit.

Its a game ... just win it.