[aeneas1]

local sports talk radio, the topic was rams, all of the talking heads showing nothing but complete and utter respect for the rams, awe really, they still can't believe what they saw thursday night, orlovsky was the guest and they asked him, paraphrasing:

host(s) - so what did we just see, can any defense stop this rams offense, they just seem to be doing something entirely different, something that current defenses just haven't seen before, aren't prepared for, or don't have the personnel to counter.

orlovsky: that's exactly what you're seeing, and current defenses aren't prepared for it and don't have the right personnel to attack it... mcvay and a few others are way ahead of the curve, a curve that nfl defenses and dc's have to catch up with, and the only way they're going to be able to do it is by re-doing the things they now do, by starting to do what these new offenses do.

for example defenses need to work more like offenses, they need complete schemes and packages for certain situations, far beyond nickel and dime packages, far beyond your typical defensive play call, and they need to disguise these schemes/packages pre-snap, you can no longer let safeties tilt your hand, you can't prematurely show cover 2, 3, 4, etc. and then let offenses do what they've prepared for each of those scenarios, defenses need to start being as deceptive as offenses.

one way to start is by taking advantage of the headset, use that to it's full advantage, which is what offenses do, until the last possible second, everyone on the offensive side of the ball is doing it, not just the rams, it's just smart, defenses aren't doing it all relatively speaking. next teams have to start scouting the best college defenses, learn what they're doing to combat these air attacks, because they're not going anywhere, as you saw thursday night, there are some solid programs that are doing a great job defending this, nfl teams need to take notice, need to learn from them.

[69RamFan]

The problem the rest of the league's Defense is going to have against us or a powerhouse offense,,,,

The league wants to see more air offense.... it brings more seats to the game...

So its all set up to protect the offense.... With calls of not hitting WRs, only within five yards.. or hitting a while catching the rock... the new helmet rule..
On how to sacking the QB...

And on Thursday night,,, the Refs werent really blowing the whistles,,, they seemed to be wanting both offense to play, so they can score..

I dont know how many holding calls they missed against us... even at the end, I saw one play AD complaining to the Refs...

Plus they picked up that one call against us on the screen play to Gurley and Saffold made the block on the back,,, and they picked up the flag...

So for now,,, it doesnt look good for Defenses in the long run....

[ramsman34]

Kirwin on MTC made a point that perhaps defenses will stop trying to take away Gurley and start trying to take away the passing game/receivers. He called it dying a slow death vs a very fast one. As in, the run game will eat up more clock and limit the Rams' possessions. so make them beat you with Gurley and the run game.

I say good luck with that!

[aeneas1]

The league wants to see more air offense.... it brings more seats to the game...

yeah, but that's nothing new, it's been going on for close to two decades now, it's been a passing league for close to two decades now, arguably longer..... what orlovsky was referring to is the type of scheming mcvay and other progressive coaches are now doing, including on-field communication with their qbs via headsets, until the final seconds, and defenses need to adjust big time if they expect to have any sustained success, he believes they need to mimic offenses in a lot of ways, and watch oklahoma and other top college programs that have adjusted well to these type of uptempo aggressive offenses... whatever the case, it was an interesting listen... btw orlovsky sure has put himself out there these days, he's a go-to guy for a lot media outlets.

[/zn/]

I dont know how many holding calls they missed against us...

I honestly wonder how much of it is missing them v. just in advance deciding they're going to overlook a lot of them.

It's like a "just let them play" attitude except the "them" applies only to offensive lines facing Donald.

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[69RamFan]

yeah, but that's nothing new, it's been going on for close to two decades now, it's been a passing league for close to two decades now, arguably longer..... what orlovsky was referring to is the type of scheming mcvay and other progressive coaches are now doing, including on-field communication with their qbs via headsets, until the final seconds, and defenses need to adjust big time if they expect to have any sustained success, he believes they need to mimic offenses in a lot of ways, and watch oklahoma and other top college programs that have adjusted well to these type of uptempo aggressive offenses... whatever the case, it was an interesting listen... btw orlovsky sure has put himself out there these days, he's a go-to guy for a lot media outlets.

Yeah I got saved on my pc with twitter,,, he actually has two vids that he showcase the RAMs in detail....

[Elvis]

You can blow up pretty much any offense with penetration. All that jet sweep motion and trickery won't work so well with a defender in the back field.

Watching us do well against the run but not so great against the pass made me buy into the new adage that today's best defenses are the best passing defenses.

Taking away the run and forcing teams to pass is obsolete. Most teams are built to pass now. The Vikings were doing us a favor every time they ran the ball...

[Elvis]

[/zn/]

Kirwin on MTC made a point that perhaps defenses will stop trying to take away Gurley and start trying to take away the passing game/receivers. He called it dying a slow death vs a very fast one. As in, the run game will eat up more clock and limit the Rams' possessions. so make them beat you with Gurley and the run game.

I say good luck with that!

That's how Denver played it.

[dieterbrock]

That's how Denver played it.

Brilliant strategy allowing the Rams to go up 20-3, thus ""forcing" them to run the ball to burn clock.
Don't think it worked out too well