[RedAlice]

Is this the first time we've seen Kraft in print as in support of Kroenke?


Spanos is the more popular of the two owners among the general constituents, but Kroenke's project is viewed by some as potentially the more lucrative for all the entire league -- Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and Patriots owner Bob Kraft chief among them.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jas ... -right-now

Jones is obvious, but I've only seen Kraft mentioned by St. Louis supporters as favoring St.Louis based on some comment he made last year.

[OldSchool]

Kraft came out early in the process and said several things fully supporting Stan and his right to move and how him doing it would be good for the NFL. Then a week or so later he hedged his bets and said that Stan had to do it by league rules and do it proper. Him saying it had to be done properly had the St Louis crowd thinking he switched his support but Kraft has firmly been in Stans corner the whole time.

[max]

I think Kraft supports Stan. Stan has never taken shots at the Pats for any of their antics, he has actually been a big fan of the Patriots system. I think Kraft is returning the loyalty.

I read that Stan has about 10 votes to block Spanos. I wonder who they could be outside of Jones, Kraft, and Snyder. Who are the other 6?

And I don't know how any owner can look at the attendance in STL and say they'd be happy with that and having to go on a silent count.

[The Ripper]

I think Kraft supports Stan. Stan has never taken shots at the Pats for any of their antics, he has actually been a big fan of the Patriots system. I think Kraft is returning the loyalty.

I read that Stan has about 10 votes to block Spanos. I wonder who they could be outside of Jones, Kraft, and Snyder. Who are the other 6?

And I don't know how any owner can look at the attendance in STL and say they'd be happy with that and having to go on a silent count.

I have heard Jed York, Stephan Ross and Steve Bisciotti. Not sure how reliable but I heard it from an NFL scout that used to be based in St Louis.

[Rams the Legends live on]

Is this the first time we've seen Kraft in print as in support of Kroenke?


Spanos is the more popular of the two owners among the general constituents, but Kroenke's project is viewed by some as potentially the more lucrative for all the entire league -- Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and Patriots owner Bob Kraft chief among them.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jas ... -right-now

Jones is obvious, but I've only seen Kraft mentioned by St. Louis supporters as favoring St.Louis based on some comment he made last year.

Yea what ya saw was the Bernie and Shane magic show of making full words disappear. I know a couple guys I really like on RRF who are from St. Louey quoted Kraft from the magic articles of Bernie and Shane and it does read like he is pro StL. However I think the articles are from the March? owners meeting and so I will see if I can find the same article I believe it was out of the Boston Globe? where his local media who has no horse in the race actually printed everything he said and did not edit for content like Bernie and Shane.

[Hacksaw]

Is having Kraft a good thing. Most likely.. His vote still counts.

Still if Stan has 10 ish, then Dean has a potential of 20. That's not necessarily positive.

[BuiltRamTough]

I've heard Jed York also.

Steve Tisch did say the Inglewood project is "exciting and sexy".

[RedAlice]

I think Kraft supports Stan. Stan has never taken shots at the Pats for any of their antics, he has actually been a big fan of the Patriots system. I think Kraft is returning the loyalty.

I read that Stan has about 10 votes to block Spanos. I wonder who they could be outside of Jones, Kraft, and Snyder. Who are the other 6?

And I don't know how any owner can look at the attendance in STL and say they'd be happy with that and having to go on a silent count.

Jones has stated that he generally always keeps enough other owners together that they can block anything. So, I expect that whomever is voting with Jones is for Kroenke. Though, maybe this issue is outside of that.

[AltiTude Ram]

Kraft came out early in the process and said several things fully supporting Stan and his right to move and how him doing it would be good for the NFL. Then a week or so later he hedged his bets and said that Stan had to do it by league rules and do it proper. Him saying it had to be done properly had the St Louis crowd thinking he switched his support but Kraft has firmly been in Stans corner the whole time.

I also find it hard to believe the leaks that the old school owners are in on St. Louis and Peacock.

A lot of those owners voted against a Ram move to St. Louis in '95. It was a landslide vote of 21 - 3 against the move and those owners were forced to change their vote when threatened with a law suit and upping the relocation fee.

It's pretty obvious that was a bad move 20 years later. I'm not sure they all of sudden feel sympathy for a City that threatened them and didn't follow through on their promises to lure the Rams away in the first place.

[bluecoconuts]

I think that all three NFC West opponents would be more likely to vote yes than no.... For the simple reason it makes it easier on their teams. These guys hate having to fly to another time zone to play us, they hate 10AM starts. A vote for the Rams in LA means they don't need to worry about that.

I'm guessing those three would vote yes, plus Jerry, Kraft, and Synder (I didn't know he was in Kroenke's camp, but others have said it).. That gives 7 pretty safe 'yes' votes for the move.

Others with potential gains by the Rams moving include the teams close to St Louis, the Chiefs, Titans, Bears, and Colts can all try and expand into the St Louis void assuming nobody else moves there after the Rams leave... I've heard that Isray is a longtime friend of Spanos, so unless the Chargers are taken care of in some way, he's more likely a no than a yes. People seem to think that the Chiefs are a 'no' vote, but I think they're more likely to be yes than no.. That's probably me just assuming they would try to expand into the St Louis market as the only Missouri team. I have heard that the Bears owner is more likely to support Kroenke than Spanos.

Benson (Saints) was predicted to be behind Kroenke more than Spanos as well.

I would assume that means there's about 11 people that are pretty good candidates to be backers of Inglewood as things stand right now. I think most of the others can be won over by whatever the rest of the group wants to think. I think Kahn would probably be more a 'yes' than a 'no' because it would open up St Louis if he ever wanted to move the Jags there.

Davis, Spanos, Isray, and apparently Richardson seem to be firm no's... St Louis backers seem to think Rooney is a firm no as well, but I think he's more of a wildcard, because he didn't want the Rams to leave in the first place.