[snackdaddy]

Can he ever lead a game winning/tying drive in the final two minutes? Last week he had over 3 minutes and all timeouts. What does he do with it? 3 and out. Not even a threat of a first down.

Yesterday it was a little tougher. But he only had to go 35-40 yards to get in Greg the Leg's range. What does he do? A pick. Not even a first down to get our hopes up. Just throw the pick and remove any suspense.

That is what you get with Case Keenum. You better be holding a lead in the final minutes or you can just pack it up, throw in the towel, whatever. Keenum is not that kind of quarterback.

I know Fisher will point out how well he played up to that point. But if you have a guy who cannot perform in those situations, what good does the first 58 minutes do? You'll always be that 7-9 bullshit team.

[dieterbrock]

Case played great yesterday.
If anyone would have told me that he'd throw for 300+ yards, account for 4td, 125+ passer rating and 10+ YPA, Id say you were nuts
The outcome of the game sucked for sure. But Keenum basically played a Romo type game. And I don't mean that as a slight, he produced huge, gave the team the lead and then turns the ball over at the end. Doesn't take away from his great game

[moklerman]

Case played great yesterday.
If anyone would have told me that he'd throw for 300+ yards, account for 4td, 125+ passer rating and 10+ YPA, Id say you were nuts
The outcome of the game sucked for sure. But Keenum basically played a Romo type game. And I don't mean that as a slight, he produced huge, gave the team the lead and then turns the ball over at the end. Doesn't take away from his great game

I basically agree, in that I think overall he put up great numbers. Breaking Everett's 27 year old record speaks for itself.

But, I also agree with SD in that Keenum has to seal the deal. Crunchtime is when the real numbers come to light and petering out when it matters most taints the overall performance. It's been my general complaint about Zuerlein for the past few years.

If Keenum continues to play at the level he did yesterday, then I have to really ask again, why did we give up 5 picks for Goff? The lack of depth on the team is already showing and it's not going to get better without all those picks.

[moklerman]

Actually, I was thinking about Keenum's trajectory and it pretty much mirrors what a first time starter would have gone through this year. We had to go through QB growing pains but it was for Keenum. I mean, you don't bench a guy if he can play like yesterday(is Detroit that bad on defense?) so now Goff doesn't get in until an injury. Unless Keenum comes crashing down across the pond.

[Will0120]

Case played great yesterday.
If anyone would have told me that he'd throw for 300+ yards, account for 4td, 125+ passer rating and 10+ YPA, Id say you were nuts
The outcome of the game sucked for sure. But Keenum basically played a Romo type game. And I don't mean that as a slight, he produced huge, gave the team the lead and then turns the ball over at the end. Doesn't take away from his great game

Dieter, did you just give Keenum credit...? I had to blink a couple times to make sure that I was reading this right ha...

[moklerman]

Yeah, looking at the numbers the Lions are BAD on pass defense. Well, the worst in the league, in fact. This is what their opponents have done against them:
151/205(73.6%) 1,689(8.2ypa) 17TD(8.3%)/3INT(1.5%) 119.3 rating. Yeesh.

I guess the next thing for Keenum is to become consistent. I mean, since we're apparently gonna ride this train to the bitter end and keep developing him instead of Goff. I just don't understand why all of this effort isn't being put into Goff.

[rams74]

Case played great yesterday.
If anyone would have told me that he'd throw for 300+ yards, account for 4td, 125+ passer rating and 10+ YPA, Id say you were nuts
The outcome of the game sucked for sure. But Keenum basically played a Romo type game. And I don't mean that as a slight, he produced huge, gave the team the lead and then turns the ball over at the end. Doesn't take away from his great game

Actually, I think it does take away from his great game. It doesn't mean he wasn't playing great up to that point, but it does take something away from his overall performance. As great as Keenum played overall, the Rams didn't score at the end of the first half, and he threw an INT at the end of the game. We need him to extend great play to those types of pressure situations.

[BuiltRamTough]

You can't expect Keenum to drive us up the field and win the game. That's not fair.

He's limited and we know what we're getting from him. He had an amazing performance yesterday.

The D and the flags killed us. It's that simple.

[dieterbrock]

I basically agree, in that I think overall he put up great numbers. Breaking Everett's 27 year old record speaks for itself.

But, I also agree with SD in that Keenum has to seal the deal. Crunchtime is when the real numbers come to light and petering out when it matters most taints the overall performance. It's been my general complaint about Zuerlein for the past few years.

If Keenum continues to play at the level he did yesterday, then I have to really ask again, why did we give up 5 picks for Goff? The lack of depth on the team is already showing and it's not going to get better without all those picks.

Yeah, I think my terminology might be off.
Had a great statistical game
Its amazing how one pass can change an entire game
Case was brilliant all day, then throws a terrible ball, game over
Eli Manning was struggling against Baltimore, facing 4th down he hits OBJ who turns it in to a 65 yard game winning TD

[dieterbrock]

Dieter, did you just give Keenum credit...? I had to blink a couple times to make sure that I was reading this right ha...

Its a fair comment/criticism on me, I have been pretty brutal
But I don't think it had been unjust.
We think our D played like crap because we lost. But we played against Matt Stafford and that talented O
Had we won, I cant imagine what it would feel like to have gotten shredded but Case Freakin Keenum!!
Actually I do, when Blaine Gabbert did it 2 games in a row....