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 by SolarRam
3 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   144  
 Joined:  Dec 11 2016
United States of America   San Diego, CA
Practice Squad

McV is an idiot for starting a banged up center for 3 games. Moron.

 by Hacksaw
3 years 7 months ago
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 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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Unless Jackson is quality they only have 2 backups. Both were in last week.
After all the doom threads and pundit questioning, perhaps our braintrust knew more than us afterall. That would be a good thing.

 by Elvis
3 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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Reality might well be we have 3 starting centers in Allen, Shelton and Corbett and it's not a position of weakness.

McVay was saying yesterday that one of the reasons for using 6 Oline Sunday was Noteboom was too good to be on the bench all the time.

Now coach speak and all that but there's more than one way to look at this...

 by PARAM
3 years 7 months ago
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 Joined:  Jul 15 2015
Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
Hall of Fame

Elvis wrote:Reality might well be we have 3 starting centers in Allen, Shelton and Corbett and it's not a position of weakness.

McVay was saying yesterday that one of the reasons for using 6 Oline Sunday was Noteboom was too good to be on the bench all the time.

Now coach speak and all that but there's more than one way to look at this...


We got beat inside by Tennessee. And our OL was suddenly trash. That was why we lost to SF and GB too (if it wasn't that crappy defense!!). Funny how a narrative can take on a life of it's own. Sometimes two different ones at once. There were even first hand reports the OL didn't look too good against Jacksonville. That's not what I saw. Can that even happen when you put up 37 points, 295 yards passing (with 1 sack & 2 QB hits) and 128 rushing yards? The hits were vicious so maybe that's what made it look bad?

 by aeneas1
3 years 7 months ago
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 Joined:  Sep 13 2015
United States of America   Norcal
Hall of Fame

Computer Cowboy - A full view of all the trench measures. My goodness, the Rams (and to a lesser extent Eagles / Washington) are strong here


those aren't "trench measures", they're overall pff grades for different categories including pass pro, run blocking, etc... for example, the rams #1 pass pro grade thru week 13 is made up of wr, te, rb and oline pass pro grades, in the trenches, in the flats, downfield, etc., it's not a pass pro grade for oline "trench" blocking... in fact here's where pff ranks each rams olineman thru week 13:

pass pro:
whitworth - 1st
allen - 20th
corbett - 26th
havenstein - 27th
edwards - 30th

run blocking:
allen - 4th
havenstein - 16th
corbett - 19th
edwards - 37th
whitworth - 45th

overall:
allen - 6th
whitworth - 8th
corbett - 13th
havenstein - 15th
edwards - 30th

and here's where off ranks the rams dlinemen:

pass rush:
donald - 1st
gaines - 27th
joseph-day - 90th
robinson - 121st

run defense:
donald - 1st
gaines - 12th
robinson - 18th
joseph-day - 31st

overall:
donald - 1st
gaines - 9th
robsinson - 34th
joseph-day - 58th

 by 69RamFan
3 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   LA CA by way of NY/NJ
Superstar

Elvis wrote:By this metric they are:




Hard to believe that chart after the RAMs got beat on both sides of the ball against Titans, SF & GB...

Yes they were dominating prior meeting those three teams...
Hopefully they keep that pace up prior to those three games.

 by /zn/
3 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   Maine
Hall of Fame

69RamFan wrote:Hard to believe that chart after the RAMs got beat on both sides of the ball against Titans, SF & GB...

Yes they were dominating prior meeting those three teams...
Hopefully they keep that pace up prior to those three games.


Yes that's how I see it too.

I think overall it's a good OL, but both in 2020 and 2021 they were capable of below average games.

 by HellRam
3 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   436  
 Joined:  Oct 01 2016
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Starter

/zn/ wrote:Yes that's how I see it too.

I think overall it's a good OL, but both in 2020 and 2021 they were capable of below average games.


I actually thought they did pretty good against SF and much better against GB then they did in playoffs last year. The Titans game is the only game they've been really destroyed in my opinion. I'm not huge on PFF but they're pass pro grades are better this year and that's what I see on the field by in large.

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