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 by Elvis
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Inside the draft room: Rams trade back on Day 1

It’s Thursday, April 25 at about 4:45 in the afternoon — the first day of the 2019 NFL Draft. Across the country, men and women of the league’s 32 teams are finishing up a final phone check, making sure each team can get in touch with one another just in case there’s an enticing trade proposal.

Inside the Rams draft room at their Cal Lutheran facility in Thousand Oaks, scouting assistant Tory Woodbury takes his seat in the back-left corner of the room where he’ll be on the phone with the team’s representatives at the site of the NFL Draft in Nashville. While the Rams have screens at each seat to display picks as they come through electronically, it’s Woodbury’s job to communicate everything that’s going on in Nashville — team selections, trades, and, most importantly, when the Rams are on the clock.

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As he slips on the headset, Woodbury remarks that he wouldn’t be surprised if the Rams traded their first-round pick to gain extra selections. Woodbury’s a former pro quarterback, and head coach Sean McVay will later say to him, “I know your cadence came in strong,” after hearing Woodbury call out the picks throughout the first round.

But before NFL commissioner Roger Goodell steps to the podium in Nashville, senior personnel advisor Taylor Morton comes to Woodbury just to go over the draft procedures one last time — Morton will be the one to communicate Los Angeles’ pick to Woodbury, who will then tell the representatives Nashville, who will write the name on the card to turn it in.

Simple, really. But it must be done right.

Assembled staff are fairly quiet as the draft starts. With four big screens in the middle of the room, the Rams’ electronic draft board lies on the two center screens. NFL Network and ESPN’s telecast of the NFL Draft sandwiches the board to the left and right. There’s an additional, smaller screen with the official time left for teams on the clock above these four. And to the left of the room, there’s a projector screen displaying the last few picks and the picks to come.

There is, however, a bit of stirring when Woodbury announces Arizona’s No. 1 overall pick — quarterback Kyler Murray out of Oklahoma.

McVay tells the room that even though Murray will be a twice-a-year opponent for the foreseeable future, the silver lining is that Los Angeles won’t have to face him in new Cardinals head coach Kliff Kingsbury’s offense until late in the season — when there will be a substantial amount of NFL tape to break down.

This happens around 5:15. The Rams’ selection isn’t until No. 31 overall, so there’s still hours before the club will be on the clock. Because of that, McVay and general manager Les Snead occasionally disappear to another room to ostensibly meet privately about plans for the first-round pick. But they’re in the draft room enough that it becomes clear toward the backend of the first round that the club’s first-round dream-scenario targets were off the board.

And once the draft selections reach the mid-20s — with Oakland, Baltimore, and Washington on the clock, for instance — the phones start to ring more often for Snead, McVay, executive vice president of football operations Kevin Demoff, and vice president of football and business administration Tony Pastoors.

Between the four men, you’d probably need a few hands to count the amount of times a person on the other end of the line heard, “We’ll get back to you.” At about 8 p.m., 40 minutes before the Rams would get on the clock, McVay asks if Atlanta’s trade proposal — No. 31 and No. 203 for No. 45 and No. 79 — was the best, receiving nods in the affirmative.

Around five minutes later, Denver’s potential interest in quarterback Drew Lock is brought up in the room — since he was still on the board as the first round was coming to an end. In his Monday Football Morning in America column, NBC Sports’ Peter King had actually put in his mock draft that the Rams could trade with the Broncos for exactly that reason.

Of course, nothing on this comes to fruition, and the Broncos eventually draft Lock at No. 42 on Friday.

The potential trade offers continue to come in even as the Seahawks trade back to the Giants at No. 30 overall so that New York can take Georgia cornerback Deandre Baker.

At that point, it’s 8:40 and the Rams are on the clock.

It’s clear the team will trade back, as Morton comes over to Woodbury and asks to have the contingent in Nashville confirm the time on the clock. They do, and the time in the draft room is correct.

There’s no sense of panic, and in all it’s not as tense as it might be were the Rams unsure of their plan. But L.A. has been working through these types of scenarios for weeks, so the course of action is clear. The Rams have accepted the Falcons’ proposal, so now Pastoors gets on the phone with the league to officially call in the trade. Pastoors’ conversation couldn’t have taken more than 40 seconds, and when he hangs up, he lets the room know, “We’re out.”

The Falcons logo appears on the “on the clock” screen, as Woodbury announces to the room that Atlanta has selected offensive lineman Kaleb McGary with the 31st overall pick.

With all this coming at the end of the first round, there’s not much more to watch after the Falcons’ pick. New England takes Arizona State wide receiver N’Keal Harry at No. 32, and that’s all she wrote for Day 1.

“It’s good — it’s what we wanted,” McVay says to the room of the first-round trade. “Good job.”

 by Elvis
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Inside the draft room: Four trades, four picks on Day 2

Myles Simmons
RAMS INSIDER

This is part two of our three-part Inside the Draft Room series. If you missed part one, you can check it out here.

After trading out of the No. 31 overall pick on Thursday night, the Rams entered the second day of the 2019 NFL Draft with four selections slated for the second and third rounds — No. 45, No. 79, No. 94, and No. 99.

While Los Angeles would end Friday night having selected four players, only one would come from of the four initial positions.

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Even before the Cardinals officially came on the clock at about 4 p.m., general manager Les Snead was fielding a trade proposal in the draft room. And a few minutes after, he provided a clue about what was to come in an interview with therams.com.

"What I do know about this — things happen a little quicker this round than they do last night,” Snead said. “So you get a lot of calls, it’s fast and furious. So looking forward to analyzing what happens when we get to around pick 45, and then seeing if there’s an opportunity to move back and acquire more shots at the basket in the top 100.”

Both Snead and head coach Sean McVay referred to selecting multiple players in the top 100 as one of Los Angeles’ primary objectives in this year’s draft. As Snead put it, Los Angeles had been able to acquire solid, starting-caliber players like wide receiver Cooper Kupp and safety John Johnson in that range recently, and felt they could draft the same kind of quality individuals.

As the beginning of the second round progresses, Snead paces back and forth in the rear of the draft room. There are grease boards in the back of the room, too, and Snead periodically reviews what’s written down on them with senior personnel advisor Taylor Morton and director of college scouting Brad Holmes.

While the phones have been ringing throughout the round, calls begin to come in just as Snead described — fast and furious — once the draft hits No. 40 overall. Snead, head coach Sean McVay, executive vice president of football operations Kevin Demoff, and vice president of football and business administration Tony Pastoors evaluate the proposals as they come in. One particular proposal Pastoors fielded clearly wasn’t going to work, simply based on the faces Snead and McVay make once they hear it.

While there were a couple realistic proposals on the table when the Rams came on the clock at No. 45, New England’s won out. Pastoors called the league to make the swap official, and the Rams acquired No. 56 and No. 101 for No. 45 overall.

This gave the Rams essentially five selections in the top 100 — that is, if you still count No. 101 as one of them since it’s just outside of it. But this is where the Rams’ brass really started to delve into who they wanted to pick.

Snead, McVay, Morton, and Holmes were standing in the middle of the room. There have two key players they like, and they were strategizing on the best way to acquire both of them.

And given how the group has apparently made both players a priority, it’s somewhat surprising that the club trades down at No. 56 to acquire No. 61 and No. 167 from Kansas City. But the Rams (we’d find out, correctly) projected that no other teams would want to select their targeted players. And that gave L.A. another asset to use in a later trade — which they would execute the next day.

With Snead and the Rams continuing to wheel and deal, Snead did tell one caller, “We’re absolutely gonna move around.”

Those in the room were quiet, as there was some understandable nervous energy watching names come off the board in the lead up to No. 61. There was certainly a confidence that the two targets would still be there, based on all the work L.A. had done to prepare for this year’s draft, including looking at the needs of other teams. But as Snead often says, the 31 other “enemies” could foil the Rams’ best-laid plans.

But that doesn’t happen. When the Rams come on the clock, they’re able to get the first priority target: Washington safety Taylor Rapp. Morton comes over to scouting assistant Ryon Lynn — who’s on the headset with Los Angeles’ reps in Nashville — telling him the name for Los Angeles’ first official card of 2019. Lynn has those in Nashville repeat the name back to him, but then hold the card so Snead can dial up the player and give him the news.

As Snead says, “Taylor? This is Les Snead, general manager, Los Angeles Rams,” Morton tells Lynn to have those in Nashville turn the card in.

After three trades back, the Rams officially have their first pick of the 2019 draft at No. 61.

While there is applause as Lynn announces the Rams’ pick to the room, the team is quickly back to work in trying to acquire the second target on the list. Snead, McVay, Pastoors, and Demoff all work the phones to try to trade back up and get a running back who McVay feels has the specific skillset to be the kind of change-of-pace player L.A. hasn’t had with McVay. Some of the trade proposals appear close to being executed, but they’re contingent on the player the trade partner wants not being on the board.

After a couple of potential swaps fall through, the Rams find their dancing partner in the Buccaneers, who agree to send No. 70 to Los Angeles in exchange for No. 94 and No. 99. The trade happens quickly, as L.A. gets on the clock and Morton tells Lynn to have the Nashville reps fill out the card for Darrell Henderson, running back out of Memphis.

Two targets acquired. The room is all smiles as Snead calls Henderson to give him the news.

“This is what you love,” McVay says as Snead dials the phone, knowing he now has an offensive weapon who averaged 8.9 yards per carry in 2017 and 2018 at his disposal.

Since the Rams traded two of their late third-round picks to move up and select Henderson, there isn’t much time before the club is back on the clock at No. 79. Just before the pick happens, Snead and McVay have cornerbacks coach Aubrey Pleasant come into the room — an indication that L.A. is leaning toward his position. Pleasant clearly likes the player, and that’s all the confirmation the room needs — L.A. is picking Michigan cornerback David Long.

Of course, the Rams weren’t quite done on day two — illustrating just how prescient Snead was when he told the earlier team that his club would be moving around. Los Angeles executes one last trade on Friday, giving up No. 101 and No. 133 to acquire No. 97 and No. 162 from New England in order to pick offensive lineman Bobby Evans out of Oklahoma.

Much like the Long choice at No. 79, run game coordinator/offensive line coach Aaron Kromer comes in as L.A. is about to make the pick. And after speaking to Evans on the phone, Kromer is all smiles as he exits the draft room.

“Thanks for the present!” he says, giving out fist bumps to fellow members of the Rams’ staff. “Appreciate the present!”

 by max
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United States of America   Sarasota, FL
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I find it interesting that the Rams targeted 2 players, Rapp and Henderson as their top 2 choices in the entire draft. And of course, they got both of them after 60 other players were taken by 31 other teams.

Sure, they're good prospects and maybe they were good value where they got them, but we'll never know who the players were that the Rams would have loved to get but were taken because the Rams traded down a bit too much.

Or maybe we will know, maybe we will hear another Bobby Wagner story down the road.

 by PARAM
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max wrote:I find it interesting that the Rams targeted 2 players, Rapp and Henderson as their top 2 choices in the entire draft. And of course, they got both of them after 60 other players were taken by 31 other teams.

Sure, they're good prospects and maybe they were good value where they got them, but we'll never know who the players were that the Rams would have loved to get but were taken because the Rams traded down a bit too much.

Or maybe we will know, maybe we will hear another Bobby Wagner story down the road.


Max, you may have it backwards. They said they had 3 guys targeted for 31 but all three were gone (if you read between the lines, probably by around pick 28). They didn't lose them because they traded down a bit too much, they traded down because they were gone. And then they went right to work grabbing Rapp at #61, then TRADING UP to get Henderson at #70, picking David Long at #79 (a pick received in trade), TRADING UP again to get Bobby Evans and then TRADING UP a third time to get Greg Gaines. They allowed themselves the opportunity to grab those guys because they were wise to trade down when the 3 guys they had targeted for #31 were gone. All in all, I thought it was a terrific piece of draft day maneuvering. And like you say about time telling, we'll see.

FWIW, my guess on guys they figured to take at #31 if they were there? Jeffrey Simmons, Montez Sweat and Jerrey Tillery. JMHO.

 by max
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PARAM wrote:Max, you may have it backwards. They said they had 3 guys targeted for 31 but all three were gone (if you read between the lines, probably by around pick 28). They didn't lose them because they traded down a bit too much, they traded down because they were gone. And then they went right to work grabbing Rapp at #61, then TRADING UP to get Henderson at #70, picking David Long at #79 (a pick received in trade), TRADING UP again to get Bobby Evans and then TRADING UP a third time to get Greg Gaines. They allowed themselves the opportunity to grab those guys because they were wise to trade down when the 3 guys they had targeted for #31 were gone. All in all, I thought it was a terrific piece of draft day maneuvering. And like you say about time telling, we'll see.

FWIW, my guess on guys they figured to take at #31 if they were there? Jeffrey Simmons, Montez Sweat and Jerrey Tillery. JMHO.


I understand all that. But they didn’t expect those 3 guys (whoever they were) to be there at 31. They believed one of them needed to miraculously drop. So it was no surprise when they didn’t. They were all set to trade down from the get go, and had Rapp as their main target or so they say.

Bottom line here is that the Rams have gone another year without a first round pick and that is usually where you get impact pro bowl players. To their credit they have drafted a couple of high quality players like Kupp and Johnson but they haven’t drafted a plug in stud in a few years. Everett has been a bit of a disappointment when you consider they passed on Kittle. We shall see how this draft and last years draft perform, we still don’t know yet.

 by PARAM
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max wrote:I understand all that. But they didn’t expect those 3 guys (whoever they were) to be there at 31. They believed one of them needed to miraculously drop. So it was no surprise when they didn’t. They were all set to trade down from the get go, and had Rapp as their main target or so they say.


Well is that unreasonable? They obviously didn't just go BPA, they had "targets". And they would have only taken those targets if they were there at #31. They were prepared to trade down to accumulate more picks for either more players or for upward movement later in the draft. They ended up with more players than their original allotment going into the draft AND traded up to get 3 of them. Seems like the plan worked out except for one those "first round targets" dropping. Why is that a problem?

Max wrote:Bottom line here is that the Rams have gone another year without a first round pick and that is usually where you get impact pro bowl players. To their credit they have drafted a couple of high quality players like Kupp and Johnson but they haven’t drafted a plug in stud in a few years. Everett has been a bit of a disappointment when you consider they passed on Kittle. We shall see how this draft and last years draft perform, we still don’t know yet.


This regime has yet to make a first round pick. Their first two years they didn't have one and this year they traded out of the round. And yet they are 24-8 and have made it to the Superbowl. I'd bet if we listed all the Pro Bowl Players or All Pro Players to never appear in a Superbowl the list would be considerably long. And yes, we don't know if the lack of first round picks will bite them in the ass in the future but so far it seems to be a non issue.

 by max
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PARAM wrote:Well is that unreasonable? They obviously didn't just go BPA, they had "targets". And they would have only taken those targets if they were there at #31. They were prepared to trade down to accumulate more picks for either more players or for upward movement later in the draft. They ended up with more players than their original allotment going into the draft AND traded up to get 3 of them. Seems like the plan worked out except for one those "first round targets" dropping. Why is that a problem?



This regime has yet to make a first round pick. Their first two years they didn't have one and this year they traded out of the round. And yet they are 24-8 and have made it to the Superbowl. I'd bet if we listed all the Pro Bowl Players or All Pro Players to never appear in a Superbowl the list would be considerably long. And yes, we don't know if the lack of first round picks will bite them in the ass in the future but so far it seems to be a non issue.


I never said it was unreasonable. It’s reasonable, yet I don’t believe they can make a habit out of this approach, specifically not drafting in the first round, and maintain a championship level team.

A big reason why the Rams are NFC Champions is because of the guys who were drafted in the first round. I’m saying it’s not sustainable to continue to draft without picking in the first round.

It’s simply a warning, my hope is that they are well aware of that.

 by SWAdude
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max wrote:A big reason why the Rams are NFC Champions is because of the guys who were drafted in the first round. I’m saying it’s not sustainable to continue to draft without picking in the first round.

It’s simply a warning, my hope is that they are well aware of that.


I do not worry about any professional teams awareness. I have no doubt they are all hyper aware in this multi-billion dollar business.

We must remember we have all these good players on our team that were chosen in the first round because we sucked for so long. Many great players are always available when you consistently chose in the top half of the first round. And the Rams totally blew that opportunity too often as well.

When the time comes and we need to position ourselves higher in the draft to get a gem, I think this team has now proven how savvy they are moving the pieces for what they need.

Feels great to finally have a well managed team. I can't ever remember having this much confidence.

 by AvengerRam
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max wrote:Bottom line here is that the Rams have gone another year without a first round pick and that is usually where you get impact pro bowl players. To their credit they have drafted a couple of high quality players like Kupp and Johnson but they haven’t drafted a plug in stud in a few years. Everett has been a bit of a disappointment when you consider they passed on Kittle. We shall see how this draft and last years draft perform, we still don’t know yet.


I'm having difficulty understanding your point.

On the one hand, you've stated a couple of times that you have an issue with the Rams going another year without a first round pick, then you criticize a recent second round pick by comparing him to a guy who was drafted in the 5th round.

I think there is some math here that is pertinent (yes, there's some math in this thread!):

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that the odds of getting a Pro Bowl player with the 31st in Round 1 is 50%.

Now let's assume the overall odds of getting a Pro Bowl player on Day 2 of the draft is 33%.

If the goal is to obtain AT LEAST ONE Pro Bowl Player, the odds would actually be better if you trade the single #31 pick into two Day 2 picks (55.6%). Plus, you have the added benefit of an 11.1% chance that BOTH Day 2 picks will be Pro Bowl Players.


Of course, that's just a hypothetical, and I haven't run Pro Bowl %s by pick. Nonetheless, there are scenarios in which a trade down INCREASES the odds of obtaining elite players.

 by Elvis
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max wrote:I understand all that. But they didn’t expect those 3 guys (whoever they were) to be there at 31. They believed one of them needed to miraculously drop. So it was no surprise when they didn’t. They were all set to trade down from the get go, and had Rapp as their main target or so they say.

Bottom line here is that the Rams have gone another year without a first round pick and that is usually where you get impact pro bowl players. To their credit they have drafted a couple of high quality players like Kupp and Johnson but they haven’t drafted a plug in stud in a few years. Everett has been a bit of a disappointment when you consider they passed on Kittle. We shall see how this draft and last years draft perform, we still don’t know yet.


Let's not forget they used their 2018 1st round pick to get Brandin Cooks and their 2017 1st round pick as part of the deal to get Goff.

We've got a ridiculous amount of first round talent on this team, really doubt that's gonna be an issue...

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