[Elvis]

Been thinking about this for some odd reason...

Starting with the Raiders in 1982 (you have to go back to the early 60's for any previous moves):

Raiders from Oakland to L.A. (1982): Tom Flores era, he moved with the team.
Baltimore Colts to Indianapolis (1984): Frank Kush moved with them but he was fired before the first season in Indi was complete.
St. Louis Cardinals to Phoenix (1994): Gene Stallings moved with the team.
Los Angeles Rams to St. Louis (1995): Switched from Chuck Knox to Rich Brooks
Los Angeles Raiders to Oakland (1995: Switched from Art Shell to Mike White
Cleveland Browns to Baltimore Ravens (1996): Changed coaches from Bill Belichick to Ted Marchibroda

So out of the 6, 3 brought their coach with them and 3 did not.

[bubbaramfan]

After yesterday, I'm for letting Fisher stay in St. Louis when the Rams move back to LA. I like Fisher, but now I don't think he's the guy to get the Rams past mediocrity. And Gregg Williams an Cignetti can stay and keep him company.

[Hacksaw]

Good stuff Elvis. 50% is interesting.
Here are the team records before and after those moves.

82 LA Raiders 7-9 in last season in Oakland, 8-1 first season in LA (hit town with a bang) with the same coach. (82 strike shortened)
84 Indy Colts 7-9 last season in Baltimore, 4-12 first season in Indy with the same coach.
88 Phx Cardinals 7-8 last season in StL, 7-9 first season in Phoenix with same coach, 94 they change their name to AZ Cards. (87 strike shortened)
95 StL Rams 4-12 last season in LA, 7-9 first season in StL under new coach.
95 Oakland Raiders 9-7 last season in LA, 8-8 first season in Oakland under new coach.
96 Browns/Ravens 5-11 last season in Cleveland, 4-12 first season in Baltimore

And the most important move relative to us now,
96 Houston Oilers 8-8 last season in Houston, 8-8 first season in Tennessee. (8-8 the next season too) no change.

So out of the six moves you listed only 2 (Rams/Raiders) of the 6 improved (33%). 1 with the same coach and 1 with a new coach.
It should be considered that final seasons (like in StL/SD now) the team is going to have a harder time of it with all the dissension and fan apathy due to potential impending moves. Some might even suggest the owners sabotage those final seasons to better argue a reason to move.

A small sample, but either way it looks to me like it doesn't really matter if you keep the coach or not during a move.
It makes it somewhat easier on the players I'd imagine, but all the fields of play are the exact same as are the rules. Coaches come and go and players move around so getting used to change is not insurmountable.

[Elvis]

Good stuff Hacksaw.

Except for the Raiders moving to L.A., all the other teams were bad when they moved.

The Browns had won 11 games the year before they announced they were moving, got off to a decent start the following year but then fell apart after Modell announced the move. Whether there's any cause and effect there, well that's obviously debatable.

Can't believe i left the Titans off of my list.

So that makes 7 moves: 4 kept their HC, 3 made a change...

[dieterbrock]

I don't see what difference it makes for the hc. He's not packing the truck. He's not printing new uniforms. Hc has nothing to do with the move so I can't see any advantage of keeping Fisher because he went thru it before.

[Elvis]

I don't see any advantage either.

But i also don't see the FO doing a coach search at the same time they have their hands full with relocation...

[moklerman]

I don't see any advantage either.

But i also don't see the FO doing a coach search at the same time they have their hands full with relocation...

Look at it a different way. Just how hard would it be to find a coach willing to take on what the Rams in LA is going to offer?

Doesn't seem like it would be too difficult to lure a decent prospect to coach in Tinseltown. Heck, rumors are Sean Payton will be available. Mike Martz lives in CA already. I haven't even looked to see who else might be available and there's two guys I'd hire right now as an upgrade to Fisher.

[Elvis]

I don't see any advantage either.

But i also don't see the FO doing a coach search at the same time they have their hands full with relocation...

Look at it a different way. Just how hard would it be to find a coach willing to take on what the Rams in LA is going to offer?

Doesn't seem like it would be too difficult to lure a decent prospect to coach in Tinseltown. Heck, rumors are Sean Payton will be available. Mike Martz lives in CA already. I haven't even looked to see who else might be available and there's two guys I'd hire right now as an upgrade to Fisher.

I agree: Rams in L.A. is a plum job.

But they have to get to L.A. first...

[moklerman]

I don't see any advantage either.

But i also don't see the FO doing a coach search at the same time they have their hands full with relocation...

Look at it a different way. Just how hard would it be to find a coach willing to take on what the Rams in LA is going to offer?

Doesn't seem like it would be too difficult to lure a decent prospect to coach in Tinseltown. Heck, rumors are Sean Payton will be available. Mike Martz lives in CA already. I haven't even looked to see who else might be available and there's two guys I'd hire right now as an upgrade to Fisher.

I agree: Rams in L.A. is a plum job.

But they have to get to L.A. first...

It's been grueling and drawn out but I don't really have any doubt about it happening. Everything that's gone on has been white noise. The NFL wanted to get Oakland and SD better situated and by the time the Rams move, that will be a reality.

[moklerman]

Yeah... quite frankly, as I've stated before.. it's ridiculous to think the team can't find a coach and go through relocation at the same time.

Separate sides of the house.

I read on here that people think Fisher should stay on for stability or that they think Stan will keep him on for stability.

I haven't heard/read anything like that regarding McCoy in SD. People think he should be fired.. that's about it.

It'd sure be a lot easier to agree with that line of thinking if there was anything stable on this team, right?

While Fisher has improved upon the historically bad Spagnuolo, he hasn't really done anything that just about any other NFL HC couldn't have done and it doesn't look like he's going to provide anything moving forward that any other HC couldn't. Kudos to Fisher for instilling a scouting department and front office that is competent. But that should have been done long ago and could have been handled by many.

Other than that, I don't really have any praise for what this regime has done.