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resistance?

The only resistance to the turnover problem "concept" I see is the unwillingness to agree that there's this severe problem, instead of just a problem in 2 games of 13. The other thing I see is a frustration of that opinion on the turnover problem "concept" not being accepted as indisputable fact. Happens all the time on the internet.

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The fact that some believe Goff has a turnover problem, some do not, and some are undecided, tells me it’s still an open issue.

I’m in the undecided group. Nothing wrong with wanting to see more before you feel comfortable that Goff has demonstrated consistency with ball security.

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It's not a "severe" problem, in a Winston sense, but it's not an insignificant problem. It's a problem that leads to losses.

Again.. not sure the issue.

No issue. I think it's sporadic, the exception and not the rule, you think he has a recurring penchant for back breaking, mind numbing turnovers at brutal times but not quite Winston-esk. Like I said, no issue. Difference of opinions. Although, it's difficult to read your word and not think "severe".

[aeneas1]

It's not a "severe" problem, in a Winston sense, but it's not an insignificant problem. It's a problem that leads to losses.

Again.. not sure the issue.

honest question:

are you satisfied with goff's turnover rate in 11 of the 13 games he's played this season, his 0.73 rate in those 11 games? or do you think his turnovers in those games weren't an "insignificant problem" either?

[aeneas1]

Honest response... is that what I'm talking about?

frankly, i'm not entirely sure what you're talking about, or better put i'm struggling to understand how / why you believe 2 bad turnover games equates to goff having "not an insignificant turnover problem".

is it because you're looking at his year-to-date turnover numbers and believe it represents his game-to-game turnover frequency?

again, honest question.

[AvengerRam]

Jameis Winston: 75 games, 111 turnovers, 1.48 per game
Jared Goff, 67 games, 72 turnovers, 1.07 per game

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Jameis Winston: 75 games, 111 turnovers, 1.48 per game
Jared Goff, 67 games, 72 turnovers, 1.07 per game

Winston SUCKS.

So, yeah, its established that Goff doesn't suck.

Now compare him to someone like Tannehill, Cousins, or Carr. Guys in the 10 to 15 range.

[AvengerRam]

Winston SUCKS.

So, yeah, its established that Goff doesn't suck.

Now compare him to someone like Tannehill, Cousins, or Carr. Guys in the 10 to 15 range.

Or...

Kurt Warner: 124 games, 174 turnovers, 1.40 per game

[AvengerRam]

Cousins: 1.07 per game
Tannehill: .98 per game
Carr: .93 per game

[aeneas1]

Which... is... why... I, specifically, mentioned that he doesn't have a Winston problem.

I guess if he doesn't have Winston's problem, I shouldn't mention Goff's problem.

Got it.

you're not going to answer my two questions? or is the above your answer?