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 by aeneas1
6 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Norcal
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Horny Mcbae wrote:How stupid are the OT rules tho. The toss is soooooo important and such a big determining factor. They should give the other team a chance to respond even if the first team scores a TD. That rule is silly.

agree completely but, fwiw, of the 15 overtime games this year only 4 ended with the winner of the coin toss scoring a td on their first possession... all told, the ot coin toss winner was 8-7 on the year.

 by AvengerRam
6 years 5 months ago
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Israel   Lake Mary, Florida
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moklerman wrote:As far as the Goff facemask non call, at least it's debatable. The Saints defender definitely touched the facemask but he didn't grasp it at all. .


That's not true. There are photos - posted here - that show that what you are saying is not true.

I said it before, and I'll say it again, its sad that you can't seem to find a way to enjoy this win.

 by dieterbrock
6 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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moklerman wrote:Considering this has been called the worst call in NFL history, I don't think it's going away.

As far as the Goff facemask non call, at least it's debatable. The Saints defender definitely touched the facemask but he didn't grasp it at all. Could have been called but it's understandable why they didn't consider it a personal foul. It isn't understandable why they didn't call the PI Coleman.

Are you looking at the clip posted? Goff's head spins 90 degrees while the Saints player has his hand on the facemask.

 by Flash
6 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Houston
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moklerman wrote:As far as the Goff facemask non call, at least it's debatable. The Saints defender definitely touched the facemask but he didn't grasp it at all. Could have been called but it's understandable why they didn't consider it a personal foul. It isn't understandable why they didn't call the PI Coleman.


That was a face mask.

 by dieterbrock
6 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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moklerman wrote:As far as the Goff facemask non call, at least it's debatable. .


I'm not sure what debate there could possibly be??
His head turns 90 degrees, his momentum stops. The goal line is directly in front of him but now his momentum is toward the sideline
aeneas1 wrote:


 by SWAdude
6 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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dieterbrock wrote:I'm not sure what debate there could possibly be??
His head turns 90 degrees, his momentum stops. The goal line is directly in front of him but now his momentum is toward the sideline


dieter,

Flash missed a quote thingy. He was quoting Moklerman.

Clearly a facemask. I saw it in real time and when you see a head jerk like that it is a facemask.

100% no doubt. No crazy debate.

I believe a troll has been born.

Don't feed it and take anything away from the board this week. He sounds irrational and pissed.

 by SWAdude
6 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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Zen_Ronin wrote:Also, what you don't see in this clip is Stallworth kicking Goff in the ribs and arm right after. Also not called. Not exactly sure how much force was applied, doesn't change the fact that it happened, and the refs ignored it.





That wasn't the only time that happened to the Rams.

I don't have the clip but some Saint acts like he can't stop, like that one, and kicks Reynolds in the head and then falls on him ass first. Clearly a personal foul that could have been avoided.

Saints played dirty. Try and tell me Payton was a patsy during bounty gate. Bull shit.

 by dieterbrock
6 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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SWAdude wrote:dieter,

Flash missed a quote thingy. He was quoting Moklerman.

Clearly a facemask. I saw it in real time and when you see a head jerk like that it is a facemask.

100% no doubt. No crazy debate.

I believe a troll has been born.

Don't feed it and take anything away from the board this week. He sounds irrational and pissed.

Oh, ok.
My bad @Flash

 by snackdaddy
6 years 5 months ago
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United States of America   Merced California
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AvengerRam wrote:That's not true. There are photos - posted here - that show that what you are saying is not true.

I said it before, and I'll say it again, its sad that you can't seem to find a way to enjoy this win.



After all the Goff debate I'm afraid he's gone past the point of no return. Its too bad. Makes it less enjoyable to root for a Superbowl team. I hope he can return to rooting for Goff.

 by PARAM
6 years 5 months ago
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Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
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aeneas1 wrote:if this "no-call" gets called then it's rams 1st & 10 at the saints 1 with 6 minutes remaining down 17-20... instead the rams had to settle for 3 and make it a 20-20 game... yeah, the saints got robbed, ha ha...




What kills me is some in the media claim that was not a facemask penalty as he just "grazed" it. Well I'd say judging by how Goff's head takes a severe left turn, you can't call that a 'graze'. Both non calls taking collectively, it's pretty clear the officials did not want a call to affect the outcome of the game, even if it was justified.

So let's play what if and say the facemask and PI plays were called as they should have been.

Would the Rams have put it in the endzone with 4 chances from the 1? If they did and were up 4 with the Saints possessing the ball at the Rams 5 and 1:56 left in the game. What happens? I'm sure many fans would say, 'with Brees at QB and Payton calling the plays, the Saints surely score a TD there'.

Like they did the first two drives of the game and the last 23 and a half minutes of the game? And even if they did, how much time would they have left Goff? I'm not sure the Saints win this game had both plays been flagged. JMHslightlybiasedO

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