by BobCarl 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 4652 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be? POST #81 Joe Montana in his prime ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by max 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #82 TOPIC AUTHOR AvengerRam wrote:Goff’s productivity over the past two years was elite, or pretty darn close to it.Still...I think there is another level he has not yet reached, but can.All things considered, I can count the QBs I’d take over him right now on one hand, and have fingers to spare.Whoa. I think we agree again, in principle. I think Goff has had several games at an elite level. He’s clearly shown the attributes to be in the elite category, but he’s not there yet. Too much inconsistency and breakdowns.Still, there aren’t more than 2 or 3 QBs I’d take over him based on going forward. Rodgers, Mahomes, maybe Wilson. The rest of the really good ones are either too old or injury question marks. But based on right now, Goff can’t be ranked in the top 5. That can easily change by the end of the year. And that’s my whole argument. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by PARAM 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #83 Elite?Top 5? Just some numbers to throw around (and I know numbers are not the end all of any conversation).Passing TD's the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 60 (#4 in NFL)Passing yards the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 8492 (#5 in NFL)Playoff appearances the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 2 (Tied for #1 with Tom Brady and Drew Brees) I don't know about "elite" but that term is totally subjective anyway. Top 5? Some of the numbers seem to suggest he's just that. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by /zn/ 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 6943 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #84 PARAM wrote:Elite?Top 5? Just some numbers to throw around (and I know numbers are not the end all of any conversation).Passing TD's the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 60 (#4 in NFL)Passing yards the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 8492 (#5 in NFL)Playoff appearances the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 2 (Tied for #1 with Tom Brady and Drew Brees) I don't know about "elite" but that term is totally subjective anyway. Top 5? Some of the numbers seem to suggest he's just that.Those by themselves do not qualify someone as elite. Not yet in JG's case. I mean take any of the obvious top 12 qbs in those years and put them on the Rams, does the offense really suffer because of that?It's not normal or typical to call a 3rd year qb elite. They have to develop into that. Then the question becomes, what do they get from experience that makes them better than a 3rd year qb (no matter how good they were in year 3) and therefore also makes them elite? I already mentioned that I would like to see him become more consistent. ... by PARAM 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #85 max wrote:You forgot about the Eagles game, right? That was clearly a subpar performance.No I didn't. That was a tough loss but let's examine some numbers. He threw 53 passes completing 35 for 339 yards. He threw a pick and lost a fumble, so that's bad (although the pick didn't result in a Philly score). He also drove the Rams down the field in 1:07 at the end of the first half to tie the game and at the end of the game in 1:08 to get a couple of shots at the end zone. If Reynolds was just a bit more aware we may have tied the game. All in all, it wasn't his best game but bad? Not in my opinion. It was a bad loss and so he gets the blame. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by PARAM 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #86 R4L liked this post /zn/ wrote:Those by themselves do not qualify someone as elite........and I didn't say those numbers made him elite. I said those numbers suggest he's top 5. And so those 9 words I quoted and everything else you typed after have absolutely nothing to do with my post........unless you're suggesting ranking in the top 5 makes someone 'elite', in which case your argument isn't with me but the top 5 / elite connection. If being ranked in the top 5 makes a guy elite, well then.........Also with respect to top 5 rankings we know the Rams are #1 in points scored the last two years (1005), tied with New England and New Orleans for #1 in win percentage the last two years (.750) and #3 in yards (behind KC and New England) the last two years (12,522). IMHO, Jared Goff had a pretty big hand in those rankings. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by LARams_1963 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1194 Joined: Aug 04 2016 North Port, FL Pro Bowl Re: if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be? POST #87 Mahomes RFU Season Ticket Holder by snackdaddy 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #88 R4L liked this post max wrote:I dont limit my evaluation to the last 2 years. I look at their entire body of work and juxtapose that with where they are right now.To use Goff's rookie year with terrible coaching, middle school system and poor skill position talent is pretty short sighted. To me that could be considered a redshirt season. 1 by max 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #89 TOPIC AUTHOR snackdaddy wrote:To use Goff's rookie year with terrible coaching, middle school system and poor skill position talent is pretty short sighted. To me that could be considered a redshirt season.Yup. And I throw out Goff’s rookie year, just like I throw out Lucks injury year. This is called making reasonable evaluations. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by sloramfan 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1581 Joined: Jun 09 2015 cen coast cal Pro Bowl if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be? 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by max 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #82 TOPIC AUTHOR AvengerRam wrote:Goff’s productivity over the past two years was elite, or pretty darn close to it.Still...I think there is another level he has not yet reached, but can.All things considered, I can count the QBs I’d take over him right now on one hand, and have fingers to spare.Whoa. I think we agree again, in principle. I think Goff has had several games at an elite level. He’s clearly shown the attributes to be in the elite category, but he’s not there yet. Too much inconsistency and breakdowns.Still, there aren’t more than 2 or 3 QBs I’d take over him based on going forward. Rodgers, Mahomes, maybe Wilson. The rest of the really good ones are either too old or injury question marks. But based on right now, Goff can’t be ranked in the top 5. That can easily change by the end of the year. And that’s my whole argument. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by PARAM 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #83 Elite?Top 5? Just some numbers to throw around (and I know numbers are not the end all of any conversation).Passing TD's the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 60 (#4 in NFL)Passing yards the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 8492 (#5 in NFL)Playoff appearances the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 2 (Tied for #1 with Tom Brady and Drew Brees) I don't know about "elite" but that term is totally subjective anyway. Top 5? Some of the numbers seem to suggest he's just that. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by /zn/ 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 6943 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #84 PARAM wrote:Elite?Top 5? Just some numbers to throw around (and I know numbers are not the end all of any conversation).Passing TD's the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 60 (#4 in NFL)Passing yards the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 8492 (#5 in NFL)Playoff appearances the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 2 (Tied for #1 with Tom Brady and Drew Brees) I don't know about "elite" but that term is totally subjective anyway. Top 5? Some of the numbers seem to suggest he's just that.Those by themselves do not qualify someone as elite. Not yet in JG's case. I mean take any of the obvious top 12 qbs in those years and put them on the Rams, does the offense really suffer because of that?It's not normal or typical to call a 3rd year qb elite. They have to develop into that. Then the question becomes, what do they get from experience that makes them better than a 3rd year qb (no matter how good they were in year 3) and therefore also makes them elite? I already mentioned that I would like to see him become more consistent. ... by PARAM 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #85 max wrote:You forgot about the Eagles game, right? That was clearly a subpar performance.No I didn't. That was a tough loss but let's examine some numbers. He threw 53 passes completing 35 for 339 yards. He threw a pick and lost a fumble, so that's bad (although the pick didn't result in a Philly score). He also drove the Rams down the field in 1:07 at the end of the first half to tie the game and at the end of the game in 1:08 to get a couple of shots at the end zone. If Reynolds was just a bit more aware we may have tied the game. All in all, it wasn't his best game but bad? Not in my opinion. It was a bad loss and so he gets the blame. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by PARAM 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #86 R4L liked this post /zn/ wrote:Those by themselves do not qualify someone as elite........and I didn't say those numbers made him elite. I said those numbers suggest he's top 5. And so those 9 words I quoted and everything else you typed after have absolutely nothing to do with my post........unless you're suggesting ranking in the top 5 makes someone 'elite', in which case your argument isn't with me but the top 5 / elite connection. If being ranked in the top 5 makes a guy elite, well then.........Also with respect to top 5 rankings we know the Rams are #1 in points scored the last two years (1005), tied with New England and New Orleans for #1 in win percentage the last two years (.750) and #3 in yards (behind KC and New England) the last two years (12,522). IMHO, Jared Goff had a pretty big hand in those rankings. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by LARams_1963 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1194 Joined: Aug 04 2016 North Port, FL Pro Bowl Re: if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be? POST #87 Mahomes RFU Season Ticket Holder by snackdaddy 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #88 R4L liked this post max wrote:I dont limit my evaluation to the last 2 years. I look at their entire body of work and juxtapose that with where they are right now.To use Goff's rookie year with terrible coaching, middle school system and poor skill position talent is pretty short sighted. To me that could be considered a redshirt season. 1 by max 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #89 TOPIC AUTHOR snackdaddy wrote:To use Goff's rookie year with terrible coaching, middle school system and poor skill position talent is pretty short sighted. To me that could be considered a redshirt season.Yup. And I throw out Goff’s rookie year, just like I throw out Lucks injury year. This is called making reasonable evaluations. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by sloramfan 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1581 Joined: Jun 09 2015 cen coast cal Pro Bowl if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be? 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by PARAM 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #83 Elite?Top 5? Just some numbers to throw around (and I know numbers are not the end all of any conversation).Passing TD's the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 60 (#4 in NFL)Passing yards the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 8492 (#5 in NFL)Playoff appearances the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 2 (Tied for #1 with Tom Brady and Drew Brees) I don't know about "elite" but that term is totally subjective anyway. Top 5? Some of the numbers seem to suggest he's just that. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by /zn/ 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 6943 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #84 PARAM wrote:Elite?Top 5? Just some numbers to throw around (and I know numbers are not the end all of any conversation).Passing TD's the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 60 (#4 in NFL)Passing yards the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 8492 (#5 in NFL)Playoff appearances the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 2 (Tied for #1 with Tom Brady and Drew Brees) I don't know about "elite" but that term is totally subjective anyway. Top 5? Some of the numbers seem to suggest he's just that.Those by themselves do not qualify someone as elite. Not yet in JG's case. I mean take any of the obvious top 12 qbs in those years and put them on the Rams, does the offense really suffer because of that?It's not normal or typical to call a 3rd year qb elite. They have to develop into that. Then the question becomes, what do they get from experience that makes them better than a 3rd year qb (no matter how good they were in year 3) and therefore also makes them elite? I already mentioned that I would like to see him become more consistent. ... by PARAM 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #85 max wrote:You forgot about the Eagles game, right? That was clearly a subpar performance.No I didn't. That was a tough loss but let's examine some numbers. He threw 53 passes completing 35 for 339 yards. He threw a pick and lost a fumble, so that's bad (although the pick didn't result in a Philly score). He also drove the Rams down the field in 1:07 at the end of the first half to tie the game and at the end of the game in 1:08 to get a couple of shots at the end zone. If Reynolds was just a bit more aware we may have tied the game. All in all, it wasn't his best game but bad? Not in my opinion. It was a bad loss and so he gets the blame. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by PARAM 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #86 R4L liked this post /zn/ wrote:Those by themselves do not qualify someone as elite........and I didn't say those numbers made him elite. I said those numbers suggest he's top 5. And so those 9 words I quoted and everything else you typed after have absolutely nothing to do with my post........unless you're suggesting ranking in the top 5 makes someone 'elite', in which case your argument isn't with me but the top 5 / elite connection. If being ranked in the top 5 makes a guy elite, well then.........Also with respect to top 5 rankings we know the Rams are #1 in points scored the last two years (1005), tied with New England and New Orleans for #1 in win percentage the last two years (.750) and #3 in yards (behind KC and New England) the last two years (12,522). IMHO, Jared Goff had a pretty big hand in those rankings. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by LARams_1963 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1194 Joined: Aug 04 2016 North Port, FL Pro Bowl Re: if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be? POST #87 Mahomes RFU Season Ticket Holder by snackdaddy 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #88 R4L liked this post max wrote:I dont limit my evaluation to the last 2 years. I look at their entire body of work and juxtapose that with where they are right now.To use Goff's rookie year with terrible coaching, middle school system and poor skill position talent is pretty short sighted. To me that could be considered a redshirt season. 1 by max 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #89 TOPIC AUTHOR snackdaddy wrote:To use Goff's rookie year with terrible coaching, middle school system and poor skill position talent is pretty short sighted. To me that could be considered a redshirt season.Yup. And I throw out Goff’s rookie year, just like I throw out Lucks injury year. This is called making reasonable evaluations. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by sloramfan 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1581 Joined: Jun 09 2015 cen coast cal Pro Bowl if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be? 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by /zn/ 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 6943 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #84 PARAM wrote:Elite?Top 5? Just some numbers to throw around (and I know numbers are not the end all of any conversation).Passing TD's the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 60 (#4 in NFL)Passing yards the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 8492 (#5 in NFL)Playoff appearances the last 2 years?Jared Goff, 2 (Tied for #1 with Tom Brady and Drew Brees) I don't know about "elite" but that term is totally subjective anyway. Top 5? Some of the numbers seem to suggest he's just that.Those by themselves do not qualify someone as elite. Not yet in JG's case. I mean take any of the obvious top 12 qbs in those years and put them on the Rams, does the offense really suffer because of that?It's not normal or typical to call a 3rd year qb elite. They have to develop into that. Then the question becomes, what do they get from experience that makes them better than a 3rd year qb (no matter how good they were in year 3) and therefore also makes them elite? I already mentioned that I would like to see him become more consistent. ... by PARAM 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #85 max wrote:You forgot about the Eagles game, right? That was clearly a subpar performance.No I didn't. That was a tough loss but let's examine some numbers. He threw 53 passes completing 35 for 339 yards. He threw a pick and lost a fumble, so that's bad (although the pick didn't result in a Philly score). He also drove the Rams down the field in 1:07 at the end of the first half to tie the game and at the end of the game in 1:08 to get a couple of shots at the end zone. If Reynolds was just a bit more aware we may have tied the game. All in all, it wasn't his best game but bad? Not in my opinion. It was a bad loss and so he gets the blame. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by PARAM 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #86 R4L liked this post /zn/ wrote:Those by themselves do not qualify someone as elite........and I didn't say those numbers made him elite. I said those numbers suggest he's top 5. And so those 9 words I quoted and everything else you typed after have absolutely nothing to do with my post........unless you're suggesting ranking in the top 5 makes someone 'elite', in which case your argument isn't with me but the top 5 / elite connection. If being ranked in the top 5 makes a guy elite, well then.........Also with respect to top 5 rankings we know the Rams are #1 in points scored the last two years (1005), tied with New England and New Orleans for #1 in win percentage the last two years (.750) and #3 in yards (behind KC and New England) the last two years (12,522). IMHO, Jared Goff had a pretty big hand in those rankings. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by LARams_1963 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1194 Joined: Aug 04 2016 North Port, FL Pro Bowl Re: if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be? POST #87 Mahomes RFU Season Ticket Holder by snackdaddy 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #88 R4L liked this post max wrote:I dont limit my evaluation to the last 2 years. I look at their entire body of work and juxtapose that with where they are right now.To use Goff's rookie year with terrible coaching, middle school system and poor skill position talent is pretty short sighted. To me that could be considered a redshirt season. 1 by max 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #89 TOPIC AUTHOR snackdaddy wrote:To use Goff's rookie year with terrible coaching, middle school system and poor skill position talent is pretty short sighted. To me that could be considered a redshirt season.Yup. And I throw out Goff’s rookie year, just like I throw out Lucks injury year. This is called making reasonable evaluations. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by sloramfan 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1581 Joined: Jun 09 2015 cen coast cal Pro Bowl if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be? POST #90 mahomes..maybe wilson..no one else even comes close in a trade for good..go ramsslo Reply 9 / 37 1 9 37 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 364 posts Jul 11 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by PARAM 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #85 max wrote:You forgot about the Eagles game, right? That was clearly a subpar performance.No I didn't. That was a tough loss but let's examine some numbers. He threw 53 passes completing 35 for 339 yards. He threw a pick and lost a fumble, so that's bad (although the pick didn't result in a Philly score). He also drove the Rams down the field in 1:07 at the end of the first half to tie the game and at the end of the game in 1:08 to get a couple of shots at the end zone. If Reynolds was just a bit more aware we may have tied the game. All in all, it wasn't his best game but bad? Not in my opinion. It was a bad loss and so he gets the blame. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by PARAM 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #86 R4L liked this post /zn/ wrote:Those by themselves do not qualify someone as elite........and I didn't say those numbers made him elite. I said those numbers suggest he's top 5. And so those 9 words I quoted and everything else you typed after have absolutely nothing to do with my post........unless you're suggesting ranking in the top 5 makes someone 'elite', in which case your argument isn't with me but the top 5 / elite connection. If being ranked in the top 5 makes a guy elite, well then.........Also with respect to top 5 rankings we know the Rams are #1 in points scored the last two years (1005), tied with New England and New Orleans for #1 in win percentage the last two years (.750) and #3 in yards (behind KC and New England) the last two years (12,522). IMHO, Jared Goff had a pretty big hand in those rankings. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by LARams_1963 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1194 Joined: Aug 04 2016 North Port, FL Pro Bowl Re: if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be? POST #87 Mahomes RFU Season Ticket Holder by snackdaddy 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #88 R4L liked this post max wrote:I dont limit my evaluation to the last 2 years. I look at their entire body of work and juxtapose that with where they are right now.To use Goff's rookie year with terrible coaching, middle school system and poor skill position talent is pretty short sighted. To me that could be considered a redshirt season. 1 by max 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #89 TOPIC AUTHOR snackdaddy wrote:To use Goff's rookie year with terrible coaching, middle school system and poor skill position talent is pretty short sighted. To me that could be considered a redshirt season.Yup. And I throw out Goff’s rookie year, just like I throw out Lucks injury year. This is called making reasonable evaluations. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by sloramfan 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1581 Joined: Jun 09 2015 cen coast cal Pro Bowl if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be? POST #90 mahomes..maybe wilson..no one else even comes close in a trade for good..go ramsslo Reply 9 / 37 1 9 37 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 364 posts Jul 11 2025
by PARAM 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #86 R4L liked this post /zn/ wrote:Those by themselves do not qualify someone as elite........and I didn't say those numbers made him elite. I said those numbers suggest he's top 5. And so those 9 words I quoted and everything else you typed after have absolutely nothing to do with my post........unless you're suggesting ranking in the top 5 makes someone 'elite', in which case your argument isn't with me but the top 5 / elite connection. If being ranked in the top 5 makes a guy elite, well then.........Also with respect to top 5 rankings we know the Rams are #1 in points scored the last two years (1005), tied with New England and New Orleans for #1 in win percentage the last two years (.750) and #3 in yards (behind KC and New England) the last two years (12,522). IMHO, Jared Goff had a pretty big hand in those rankings. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by LARams_1963 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1194 Joined: Aug 04 2016 North Port, FL Pro Bowl Re: if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be? POST #87 Mahomes RFU Season Ticket Holder by snackdaddy 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #88 R4L liked this post max wrote:I dont limit my evaluation to the last 2 years. I look at their entire body of work and juxtapose that with where they are right now.To use Goff's rookie year with terrible coaching, middle school system and poor skill position talent is pretty short sighted. To me that could be considered a redshirt season. 1 by max 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #89 TOPIC AUTHOR snackdaddy wrote:To use Goff's rookie year with terrible coaching, middle school system and poor skill position talent is pretty short sighted. To me that could be considered a redshirt season.Yup. And I throw out Goff’s rookie year, just like I throw out Lucks injury year. This is called making reasonable evaluations. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by sloramfan 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1581 Joined: Jun 09 2015 cen coast cal Pro Bowl if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be? POST #90 mahomes..maybe wilson..no one else even comes close in a trade for good..go ramsslo Reply 9 / 37 1 9 37 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 364 posts Jul 11 2025
by LARams_1963 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1194 Joined: Aug 04 2016 North Port, FL Pro Bowl Re: if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be? POST #87 Mahomes RFU Season Ticket Holder by snackdaddy 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #88 R4L liked this post max wrote:I dont limit my evaluation to the last 2 years. I look at their entire body of work and juxtapose that with where they are right now.To use Goff's rookie year with terrible coaching, middle school system and poor skill position talent is pretty short sighted. To me that could be considered a redshirt season. 1 by max 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #89 TOPIC AUTHOR snackdaddy wrote:To use Goff's rookie year with terrible coaching, middle school system and poor skill position talent is pretty short sighted. To me that could be considered a redshirt season.Yup. And I throw out Goff’s rookie year, just like I throw out Lucks injury year. This is called making reasonable evaluations. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by sloramfan 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1581 Joined: Jun 09 2015 cen coast cal Pro Bowl if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be? POST #90 mahomes..maybe wilson..no one else even comes close in a trade for good..go ramsslo Reply 9 / 37 1 9 37 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 364 posts Jul 11 2025
by snackdaddy 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #88 R4L liked this post max wrote:I dont limit my evaluation to the last 2 years. I look at their entire body of work and juxtapose that with where they are right now.To use Goff's rookie year with terrible coaching, middle school system and poor skill position talent is pretty short sighted. To me that could be considered a redshirt season. 1 by max 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #89 TOPIC AUTHOR snackdaddy wrote:To use Goff's rookie year with terrible coaching, middle school system and poor skill position talent is pretty short sighted. To me that could be considered a redshirt season.Yup. And I throw out Goff’s rookie year, just like I throw out Lucks injury year. This is called making reasonable evaluations. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by sloramfan 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1581 Joined: Jun 09 2015 cen coast cal Pro Bowl if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be? POST #90 mahomes..maybe wilson..no one else even comes close in a trade for good..go ramsslo Reply 9 / 37 1 9 37 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 364 posts Jul 11 2025
by max 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Analytical piece on Jared Goff POST #89 TOPIC AUTHOR snackdaddy wrote:To use Goff's rookie year with terrible coaching, middle school system and poor skill position talent is pretty short sighted. To me that could be considered a redshirt season.Yup. And I throw out Goff’s rookie year, just like I throw out Lucks injury year. This is called making reasonable evaluations. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by sloramfan 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1581 Joined: Jun 09 2015 cen coast cal Pro Bowl if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be? POST #90 mahomes..maybe wilson..no one else even comes close in a trade for good..go ramsslo Reply 9 / 37 1 9 37 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 364 posts Jul 11 2025
by sloramfan 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 1581 Joined: Jun 09 2015 cen coast cal Pro Bowl if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be? POST #90 mahomes..maybe wilson..no one else even comes close in a trade for good..go ramsslo Reply 9 / 37 1 9 37 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business