[St. Loser Fan]

Ths is the clown Judge who we should try not to confuse with Roy Bean.

StL, please take the Chargers.

We don’t want any more stolen teams. Send them home to San Diego.

[Hacksaw]

We don’t want any more stolen teams. Send them home to San Diego.

Is that the general climate in StL? If so folks should stop crying about the team they previously stole which got away.

[St. Loser Fan]

Is that the general climate in StL? If so folks should stop crying about the team they previously stole which got away.

We wouldn’t have stolen the Rams if
1) Stan hadn’t given such a shitty expansion team presentation in 1993.
2) If Los Angeles and Anaheim failed in 1994/95 in making almost no effort to keep the team.

[Hacksaw]

We wouldn’t have stolen the Rams if
1) Stan hadn’t given such a shitty expansion team presentation in 1993.
2) If Los Angeles and Anaheim failed in 1994/95 in making almost no effort to keep the team.

the main point is you stole them too.

Steinberg and others were still hammering away at a new stadium. GF was hell bent to get her way. And her $30M annual spending cash.

[rams74]

We wouldn’t have stolen the Rams if
2) If Los Angeles and Anaheim failed in 1994/95 in making almost no effort to keep the team.

You're suggesting that Southern California should have ponied up a brand-new publicly-financed stadium. That was never going to happen. Not then, not ever. Nor should it.

There were other ways to get private funding for a Rams stadium. Georgia wasn't interested, she had already made her decision.

[St. Loser Fan]

You're suggesting that Southern California should have ponied up a brand-new publicly-financed stadium.

Yes.

That was never going to happen. Not then, not ever. Nor should it..

Tell that to the NFL who:
-left the TWA Dome empty to steal a team
-regularly extorts billions of dollars from taxpayers

There were other ways to get private funding for a Rams stadium. Georgia wasn't interested, she had already made her decision.

Then LA/Anaheim should have done those "other ways" so Georgia didn't have an out to St. Louis.

[rams74]

Then LA/Anaheim should have done those "other ways" so Georgia didn't have an out to St. Louis.

The problem here is that the situation was politically untenable. There was no way for local government to get together on a stadium, public or private. It was very complicated, but in the end the biggest obstacle was the Coliseum Commission, who wielded tons of influence, and who were not ready to let the Coliseum fade away as an NFL site.

As for private investors, there were plenty of them. And Leigh Steinberg was happy to try to organize them into a viable force. But Georgia HAD to agree to something like this, or it was never going to work. And she was never going to agree. The murdering hoe.

On top of that, you speak about the LA 1994 situation as if the relocation guidelines were as big a deal then as they are now, and were in 2016. They barely existed in 1994, and nobody cared about them -- not Georgia, not Paul Tagliabue, not anybody. LA/Orange County could have produced a united front and a fully funded stadium proposal, and it would not have changed a thing.

But all that aside, you continue to speak about the defunct St. Louis stadium project as if there's something nobler about a publicly-financed stadium than a stadium that was built solely from Kroenke's pocketbook. There isn't. Just the contrary, actually.

[RamDog]

Still feels like a sour grapes lawsuit. A very real one though if these details about the NFL relocation policy are enforceable in court.

Wether there was an out clause in the lease, or a checklist completed by St Louis, its still Stans property and he can take the team anywhere he wants for all I care.

I would root for the Des Moines Rams if I needed to. I dont support or even relate fans pitted against each other.

[St. Loser Fan]

Still feels like a sour grapes lawsuit.

A total sour grapes lawsuit that Stan caused by his relocation letter that torched St. Louis. A better worded document and some false platitudes to St. Louis about making a good effort would have saved him tons of money.

Wether there was an out clause in the lease, or a checklist completed by St Louis, its still Stans property and he can take the team anywhere he wants for all I care.

See my post on the previous page about the multiple agreements the NFL signed with the US Conference of Mayors.

[SoCalRam78]

1. Kroenke had every right to conduct business elsewhere after the top tier clause. NFL cannot enforce a team staying as mentioned in the Shaikin article. The guidelines aren't a contract unlike the top tier clause.

2. That riverfront stadium required 550 million from the Rams and the NFL, was not a fully tax paid stadium. This is before overages. That NFL loan would have to be paid back by the team. Who cares what SD and Oak did and didn't offer. Kroenke was never going to agree to those terms. SD even had some kind of a sham stadium proposal too with some public funding.

3. The NFL is also benefitting from the team relocation, so any damages should be paid by them at least somewhat.

4. Carson stadium was never going to get built because that land has environmental issues and Spanos and Davis are both clowns. Kroenke had a fully vetted parcel and model in Inglewood, Carson never had those details in January of 2016.

End of the day this is a frivolous lawsuit that should have been thrown out a long time ago. The lawsuit is based on non contractual guidelines that weren't followed, but even if they did, required the Rams to fund the majority of a new stadium.

“contains obligations and promises that may be enforceable in a court of law” and that “many provisions of the relocation policy were intended for the benefit of a club’s home territory.”

I'm sorry, that sounds subjective.