[ramman2999]

LBC

Awesome.

Brett Rypien might be the best thing to happen to this organization since Aaron Donald.

Especially if he can get us Caleb Williams Drake Maye Brock Bowers or Marvin Harrison jr.

Keep playing Brett.

[Joe Pendleton]

agreed.. or we could get the J-E-T-S Z Wilson (on the cheap)!

[Elvis]

[actionjack]

LBC

Awesome.

Brett Rypien might be the best thing to happen to this organization since Aaron Donald.

Especially if he can get us Caleb Williams Drake Maye Brock Bowers or Marvin Harrison jr.

Keep playing Brett.

Right! tanking without saying you are tanking....

[snackdaddy]

Where does 5-12 end up in the draft? There are 4 teams we have no business thinking we can win. 4 teams who are beatable. But odds are we only win half of those. Which gives us 5 wins.

Last year that was good enough for the 5th spot. This year they are currently sitting at the 6th spot. There are some possible impact type guys in the top ten. If it really is all about offense do they go left tackle? What about a guy like Brock Bowers? He's definitely got the tools to be a top playmaking tight end. And its a position that will need to be addressed sooner than later.

I doubt someone like Marvin Harrison Jr. will be available. Plus, Stafford has a tendency to lock in on Kupp or Puka. Not sure we can trust him to develop the same rapport with another receiver. Part of me wants a top tier playmaker. But another part of me says it won't do any good if they don't address the offensive line problems.

[ramman2999]

This has to be the dumbest thing. Why would you sign Carson Wentz???????? A guy who’s gonna barely get you there to the playoffs and not have you win? Gonna when you games you shouldn’t win and fuck up your draft position. Real smart. If you’re not playing Stafford play Rypien and get your tank commander. The meaningless win is really gonna mean a lot when Caleb Williams is lighting you up for the Cardinals. Or Marvin Harrison Jr. is catching balls over your DBs.

[ramman2999]

We’re gonna beat the Cardinals.

Well lose to the Niners Ravens Seahawks.

[PARAM]

Where does 5-12 end up in the draft? There are 4 teams we have no business thinking we can win. 4 teams who are beatable. But odds are we only win half of those. Which gives us 5 wins.

Last year that was good enough for the 5th spot. This year they are currently sitting at the 6th spot. There are some possible impact type guys in the top ten. If it really is all about offense do they go left tackle? What about a guy like Brock Bowers? He's definitely got the tools to be a top playmaking tight end. And its a position that will need to be addressed sooner than later.

I doubt someone like Marvin Harrison Jr. will be available. Plus, Stafford has a tendency to lock in on Kupp or Puka. Not sure we can trust him to develop the same rapport with another receiver. Part of me wants a top tier playmaker. But another part of me says it won't do any good if they don't address the offensive line problems.

So many possibilities. And we know Trader Les is licking his chops at the possibilities that will presented to him. If we suck bad enough to be in the top 8, you can be sure without a trade up, Caleb, Harrison, Alt (or the PSU LT) and Maye will be gone. And probably the #1 Edge and #1 CB. So do you take a McCarthy or Penix ( he concerns me because he's already had 2 knee inuries) or trade down and let somebody else take Penix? Load up with 3 or 4 difference makers with the extra 2nd or 3rd round pick....and we could have another 3rd if somebody hires Morris. So many possiblities.....too early to know....but certainly not too early to speculate. In McSnead I trust.

[ramman2999]

Phenix and the other guys aren’t in the same class as Caleb and Maye.

If you look at Maye and Caleb if you look at tape Caleb and Maye are the same guy.

The Penn State left tackle is elite.

Marvin Harrison jr. Is elite Brock Bowers is elite. The top of this draft is loaded with elite talent. I have a way better grade on Brock Bowers then I did on Kyle Pitts.

[PARAM]

There's no position more over drafted AND misprojected than QB. Too many factors and variables and 'the need' forces teams to ignore some of them.

Winston and Mariota were both going to be good. Both Goff amd Wentz. Mayfield. Murray entered the league with more hype than Mahomes BECAUSE of Mahomes performance in the NFL..

Some of these guys look like they're playing 7 on 7 in college and when they get to the NFL, they look like they're playing against 15 defenders. They play Arizona, Arizona St. and Cal in college and in the NFL they're playing the NFL equivalent of Alabama every week.

Look back at the last 10 drafts and see how many of the top 2 QBs taken, fulfilled the promise or hype. In college being a great athlete is the difference. In the NFL it's so much more.