[BuiltRamTough]

Interesting stuff. I write proposals for a living and wish the Rams had hired me to help with this. If you're reading Kevin, PM me!

Some good arguments...but very weird mix of logos and pathos and obviously not sent through a professional writer or someone who does document design. Half lawyer speak and half emotional plea. Pretty surprised that a billion dollar business produced something like this...double spaced, other crappy formatting, and containing style and grammatical errors.

A very compelling argument...so don't want derail the joy of this thread...but just surprising how high school term paper this document looks. Really, they had months to work on this and I could have made this look awesome in half a week.

Welcome to the site brother.

[Indrid Cold]

Welcome to the site brother.

Thanks. I'd been wondering where all the good posters from other sites went...glad I found this place.

Despite that, ESK smacked the Loo in the mouth and exposed all the crap going on there in simple concise verbiage even an marginally interested NFL owner can understand.

I'm not a CA resident and have much less skin in the game than you all, but I grew up on LA Rams fan and have the good sense to know what a return home would mean for this team. And yeah, back on point...this is the exact statement(s) we've been wanting to come out in response to the all Carson BS. Timing wise...they played it perfectly. Stayed out of the fray, but delivered some haymakers at the exact right time and in the correct forum.

I also learned that the Rams winning percentage has increased by 52% with Kroenke as owner, so I'll stop critiquing both the document and on field product, lol.

[RedAlice]

Oh, just so lovely. I don't have time to read all of this - but, what a great thing to read parts of at the end of the day.

We are getting our Rams home.

From the parts I read - it's exactly what all of us LA fans have been saying over and over. Nice.

[max]

Interesting stuff. I write proposals for a living and wish the Rams had hired me to help with this. If you're reading Kevin, PM me!

Some good arguments...but very weird mix of logos and pathos and obviously not sent through a professional writer or someone who does document design. Half lawyer speaker and half emotional plea. Pretty surprised that a billion dollar business produced something like this...double spaced, other crappy formatting, and containing style and grammatical errors.

A very compelling argument...so don't want derail the joy of this thread...but just surprising how high school term paper this document looks. Really, they had months to work on this and I could have made this look awesome in half a week.

Good points but you have to imagine they had it professionally done, no?

Of course...but they should fire whoever did. I'm sure there are lots of professionals here who do presentations/documents or receive them for a living...isn't the look and the design of this amateurish? Most important thing you are going to submit and worth how much to you? But I'm hung up on silly things. Just surprising to me...I don't want to take this off track, so I'll just leave it there. I'm sure it's a much better case then the other two applications and that's what matters.

I've been on many aerospace proposals in my career, I agree with you, the document was not impressive in its structure or writing skills. I wonder why. The Rams team must have dealt with a ton of proposals. Was this done intentionally?

[Stranger]

Good points but you have to imagine they had it professionally done, no?

Of course...but they should fire whoever did. I'm sure there are lots of professionals here who do presentations/documents or receive them for a living...isn't the look and the design of this amateurish? Most important thing you are going to submit and worth how much to you? But I'm hung up on silly things. Just surprising to me...I don't want to take this off track, so I'll just leave it there. I'm sure it's a much better case then the other two applications and that's what matters.

I've been on many aerospace proposals in my career, I agree with you, the document was not impressive in its structure or writing skills. I wonder why. The Rams team must have dealt with a ton of proposals. Was this done intentionally?

I think it was intentional. Essentially, you have 31 family businesses reading and deciding on this thing. I think an overcooked proposal, in terms of layout and writting style, actually works against you here. The NFL is just noth that sophisticated of a place.

Bottom line, so far everyone that has read it knows they are a slam dunk. So I say it has achieved its purpose dperfectly. I'm stoked !

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I was thinking that also, Stranger.

They are appealing to the general public as well. Gotta keep it simple and raw.

[Stranger]

I was thinking that also, Stranger.

They are appealing to the general public as well. Gotta keep it simple and raw.

I think we may see a very professional (corporate) proposal coming out of the Goldman Sachs/Spanos crowd in support of the Chargers, as the GS staff are most likely producing it. But I'm not so sure it will have the emotional appeal that the Rams proposal had. The Rams doc was written by people who have lived through this experience and who felt the pain. As a fan, I emotionally connected with it. I think that's what the NFL owners will do as well, as very few of these guys are corporate business men, or have large businesses or extensive business experience outside of their NFL ownership.

Just one question. Has Spanos already submitted his version of this doc? Or, will they have an opportunity now to rework theirs in response to the Rams releasing theirs publicly?

[OldSchool]

I was thinking that also, Stranger.

They are appealing to the general public as well. Gotta keep it simple and raw.

I think we may see a very professional (corporate) proposal coming out of the Goldman Sachs/Spanos crowd in support of the Chargers, as the GS staff are most likely producing it. But I'm not so sure it will have the emotional appeal that the Rams proposal had. The Rams doc was written by people who have lived through this experience and who felt the pain. As a fan, I emotionally connected with it. I think that's what the NFL owners will do as well, as very few of these guys are corporate business men, or have large businesses or extensive business experience outside of their NFL ownership.

Just one question. Has Spanos already submitted his version of this doc? Or, will they have an opportunity now to rework theirs in response to the Rams releasing theirs publicly?

All three teams have, this document is part of the application process. Only the Rams has been "leaked" so far.

[SoCalRam78]

Interesting stuff. I write proposals for a living and wish the Rams had hired me to help with this. If you're reading Kevin, PM me!

Some good arguments...but very weird mix of logos and pathos and obviously not sent through a professional writer or someone who does document design. Half lawyer speak and half emotional plea. Pretty surprised that a billion dollar business produced something like this...double spaced, other crappy formatting, and containing style and grammatical errors.

A very compelling argument...so don't want derail the joy of this thread...but just surprising how high school term paper this document looks. Really, they had months to work on this and I could have made this look awesome in half a week.

I agree with you.

[bubbaramfan]

I want to read the proposals Spanos and davis submitted.