[Hacksaw]

Both team have to play in the cold. Sure they live there and their fans are there but execution has nothing to do with that.
Trubisky the new found world beater is going to come in rusty are flinching when he sees or D-line attacking.

These Rams are good and win on the road a lot. They band together against adversity almost always.

I pity Chicago fan after we send them home into the cold Chicago night as the Rams board a victorious plane headed back to sunny SoCal 12-1.

[max]

Yeah, in the last 2 years when Goff has had a qb rating in the 80s or lower, they won 5 out of those 7 games.

Agree. The Rams are good enough to win in Chicago without Goff playing well.

I was far from impressed with the Bears OL against the Giants. Whoever is playing QB for the Bears Sunday could be in a lot more trouble than Goff. I don’t expect the Bears O to put up more than 20 points. And they may turn the ball over enough times to make Goff’s job easy.

[aeneas1]

You put up a bunch of numbers that support my argument that we shouldn’t expect much from Goff in Chicago. And the cold weather won’t make it easier, likely will make it tougher wearing those gloves.

But you go on making your off the wall comments that have nothing to do with my argument.

It appears that you’re so blinded in love with Goff that you can’t have a thoughtful and dignified conversation about his difficulties.

didn't realize i was being so cryptic, i'll try to be clearer.

you started your thread by saying because goff didn't shine in the cold weather in denver, you expect him not to play well in the cold weather in chicago either. for you, a single data point was all you needed to determine:

Of course its harder against a good D on the road for any QB, but in the cold is tougher for some QBs. And Goff looks to be one of them.
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If Goff is ever going to be a legit top 10 QB, he’s gonna have to play at least decently on the road against a good D. My guess is that he’s not there yet and the cold weather is an added issue for him.
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you continue to come up with these little "he's not there yet" milestones, and it strikes me as very odd and, frankly, silly.

goff is a pro bowl qb who owns the best record in football thru week 13, he's a top tier qb, he's "there yet".

but if you're waiting for him to not lose another game, regular season or postseason, or put up 100+ ratings every outing, your in for a long wait (and a lot of complaining).

yes, as i've pointed out in other posts, there's a good chance goff won't light it up next week, but it's not because "he's not there yet", instead it's because the weather is going to be shitty and because he's going against a top defense. the odds are against him, just like they are for every qb in that sitch, including brady.

is that any clearer?

[aeneas1]

Not relevant.

no you aren't.

[aeneas1]

I pity Chicago fan after we send them home into the cold Chicago night as the Rams board a victorious plane headed back to sunny SoCal 12-1.

[Elvis]

I'm so old i remember when Goff didn't have a 4th quarter comeback...

[aeneas1]

I'm so old i remember when Goff didn't have a 4th quarter comeback...

wake me up when he does it from the left hashes, in the rain, with under 16 secs remaining, otherwise he's just not there yet.

[max]

didn't realize i was being so cryptic, i'll try to be clearer.

you started your thread by saying because goff didn't shine in the cold weather in denver, you expect him not to play well in the cold weather in chicago either. for you, a single data point was all you needed to determine:

Of course its harder against a good D on the road for any QB, but in the cold is tougher for some QBs. And Goff looks to be one of them.
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If Goff is ever going to be a legit top 10 QB, he’s gonna have to play at least decently on the road against a good D. My guess is that he’s not there yet and the cold weather is an added issue for him.
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you continue to come up with these little "he's not there yet" milestones, and it strikes me as very odd and, frankly, silly.

goff is a pro bowl qb who owns the best record in football thru week 13, he's a top tier qb, he's "there yet".

but if you're waiting for him to not lose another game, regular season or postseason, or put up 100+ ratings every outing, your in for a long wait (and a lot of complaining).

yes, as i've pointed out in other posts, there's a good chance goff won't light it up next week, but it's not because "he's not there yet", instead it's because the weather is going to be shitty and because he's going against a top defense. the odds are against him, just like they are for every qb in that sitch, including brady.

is that any clearer?

Allow me to clarify then.

Goff can be a pro bowl QB and still not be “there yet” when there yet means he’s seen everything a defense can throw at him and know where to go with the ball.

You take that condition and compound it with a hostile noisy road environment and then add bad weather on top of that and you get a QB that is more likely to fare poorly than a seasoned top tier QB, like Brady, Rodgers, or Roethlisberger.

So no, I don’t think Goff is “there yet”, you just need to grasp where “there” is.

[aeneas1]

So no, I don’t think Goff is “there yet”, you just need to grasp where “there” is.

question. in your opinion, which current qbs are "there yet"?

[snackdaddy]

For some people you're only as good as your last game. Goff was not stellar last game. It happens.

The Lions actually played a pretty good defensive game. Its not like they weren't capable. They held Tom Brady to 14 completions, 133 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT. So they are capable. But we know Tom Brady has had some good games too. So has Goff.