[Rams the Legends live on]

True Den he did retire back in 2012 but just this very year he interviewed for the Browns OC job http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12198 ... inator-job So whether or not we end up getting him, fact is he looks to be interested in a return to football. So there is a willingness on his part just remains to be seen if any team will show a willingness to hire him.

[den-the-coach]

There was that Dick Vermeil retread.

But he wasn't a former Ram Head Coach and had been offered multiple opportunities to come back I understand the affection for Martz I just don't understand the love with his recent body of work. IMO, time to move on.

[den-the-coach]

True Den he did retire back in 2012 but just this very year he interviewed for the Browns OC job http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12198 ... inator-job So whether or not we end up getting him, fact is he looks to be interested in a return to football. So there is a willingness on his part just remains to be seen if any team will show a willingness to hire him.

Agreed, but he would have to reinvent himself from a personality standpoint. I don't think he would be a good fit plus he's getting a tad long in the tooth Martz is 64 now and as the song goes: Will you still need me, will you still feed me when I'm 64?

[Stranger]

Vermeil totally reinvented himself in order to win a SB.

[Gareth]

I understand you're advocating him as OC and not as Head Coach, but he failed in San Francisco, Detroit and Chicago. I would rather find a young Mike Martz (an up and comer) not a coach that had worn out his welcome in three other cities. We study history so we are not doomed to repeat it and I for one would not like to repeat his lack of success since leaving St. Louis.

To say he failed in Detroit is a complete misstatement. He did very well in Detroit - compare the before Martz Lions and the after Martz Lions. I believe the year after they got rid of him they went 0-16.

As far as SF - I can't think of a worse pairing than Martz and Singletary. There's no way that was going to work.

[den-the-coach]

To say he failed in Detroit is a complete misstatement. He did very well in Detroit - compare the before Martz Lions and the after Martz Lions. I believe the year after they got rid of him they went 0-16.

As far as SF - I can't think of a worse pairing than Martz and Singletary. There's no way that was going to work.

Again I stipulated in a previous post that some will make excuses for him in Detroit & San Francisco, however, he did take those jobs and he did not have to. The Lions in Martz first year were 3-13, but yes a year later were 0-16 and Martz again accepted the job in San Francisco, if he did not like the fit, he should have looked elsewhere IMHO so not being a good fit is not an excuse because Martz did not have to take the job.

[Hacksaw]

uy.
Because Fisher hired Snead, not sure he'd survive (or want to stick around) after a Fisher firing.

Same with Williams

[Hacksaw]

, fact is he looks to be interested in a return to football. So there is a willingness on his part just remains to be seen if any team will show a willingness to hire him.

After the statement Martz recently made public regarding the Spygate issue and Gdoodell, the league front office might have sent out a memo.

[Gareth]

To say he failed in Detroit is a complete misstatement. He did very well in Detroit - compare the before Martz Lions and the after Martz Lions. I believe the year after they got rid of him they went 0-16.

As far as SF - I can't think of a worse pairing than Martz and Singletary. There's no way that was going to work.

Again I stipulated in a previous post that some will make excuses for him in Detroit & San Francisco, however, he did take those jobs and he did not have to. The Lions in Martz first year were 3-13, but yes a year later were 0-16 and Martz again accepted the job in San Francisco, if he did not like the fit, he should have looked elsewhere IMHO so not being a good fit is not an excuse because Martz did not have to take the job.

Check out Detroit - his results were very good. With Kitna as QB. You might call it an excuse - I call it the truth.

When Martz took the SF job, Nolan was the coach. He hired him - not Singletary. Nolan then got fired and Singletary took over. Thus, your point is erroneous.

[Elvis]

Again I stipulated in a previous post that some will make excuses for him in Detroit & San Francisco, however, he did take those jobs and he did not have to. The Lions in Martz first year were 3-13, but yes a year later were 0-16 and Martz again accepted the job in San Francisco, if he did not like the fit, he should have looked elsewhere IMHO so not being a good fit is not an excuse because Martz did not have to take the job.

Just to get a couple facts more clear:

The Lions were 7-9 the year they fired Martz. (I don't know if you remember but they had the worst defense in the NFL that year but the DC was Marinelli's son in law. He kept his son in law and fired Martz. They went 0-16 the following year and everyone was fired.)

Nolan hired Martz in SF. Nolan was fired, Singletary promoted and at that point Mike Martz was no longer a good fit...