by ramsman34 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: The O line POST #441 TOPIC AUTHOR The can't/won't get rid of w all of them. I was projecting based on, well, projections, lol. You could keep Boom and Alen and slide Jax and Shelton to my second string line, then jettison Aboushi. they will still need to add at least 3, more likely 5 bodies and hopefully some or all of them are highly skilled and can compete for starting jobs. I know/feel this; the Rams aren't going just sit on their hands and hope everyone comes back from injury and roll from there. They will make moves. they also have to address Edge, RB, safety, and corner depth - possibly WR depending on how they feel about everyone not named Kupp or Robinson. by safer 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1431 Joined: Feb 03 2016 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl The O line POST #442 I'm a huge McSnead fan BUT, I was really pissed when I kept reading about how we were gonna go after OBJ; a passrusher, or McCaffrey or some position other than Oline before the trade deadline. We needed to bring in at least one proven, Oline stud to really push our young linemen THIS year. Hav is solid; we've got three OG's on IR; and Jackson, to me is gonna be a stud for us. I think if you take any team and lose that many guys upfront plus your two best O players, you're gonna b pretty well fucked, right?BTW, speaking of QB's, I would not be totally shocked if Stafford did seriously consider retiring after how much head trauma he suffered thru this year. by 69RamFan 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3592 Joined: Oct 15 2016 LA CA by way of NY/NJ Superstar The O line POST #443 safer wrote:BTW, speaking of QB's, I would not be totally shocked if Stafford did seriously consider retiring after how much head trauma he suffered thru this year.I can see the RAMs trying to shut him down for the rest of the season, If the RAMs can do some FA signing to get a proven LT and G,Then from what I can see from Staff, I see him being a warrior, and he would want to return.But if he doesn't see the RAMs trying to improve in those two upgrades, Then I can see him calling it quits by /zn/ 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6942 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame The O line POST #444 PARAM, Elvis liked this post Sam Farmer@LATimesfarmerCardinals have gone through five different OL configurations. Rams refer to that as “consistency.” 2 by bremillard 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 697 Joined: Sep 30 2019 LA Coliseum Veteran The O line POST #445 PARAM wrote:Salary of the OL is irrelevant as far as success is concerned.The 2018 Rams paid their top 5 about 26 mil and they helped them get to the Superbowl, scoring a whopping 3 points once there. In 2019, they paid their starting five 28 mil! The 2020 Bucs paid their top five 39.7 mil and they won the Superbowl. This year they're paying 3 of those five 41.2 mil. And they're 5-6. Sure Jensen is out and that hurts, but they let their 2 G's leave because of money and injuries have affected that unit. Hell Wirfs just went down this week. Let's see how they fare going forwardI'll say this.....the Rams picked a good year to pay their line one of the lowest totals in the league! Can you imagine putting out 41 mil plus and having the number of injuries they've had? Of course somebody could try and tie salaries to injuries as well.Not quite irrelevant. The eagles pay their offensive line nearly 80 million. It's working this season. As for this year with the Rams and injuries? No argument from me. by PARAM 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #446 Last edited by PARAM on Dec 01 2022, edited 1 time in total. bremillard wrote:Not quite irrelevant. The eagles pay their offensive line nearly 80 million. It's working this season. As for this year with the Rams and injuries? No argument from me.Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022 Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Elvis 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 41507 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator The O line POST #447 PARAM, Hacksaw liked this post Going by money seems wrongheaded for at least a couple reasons.First, a player's salary has a ton to do with where they are in their contract's cycle and career. The cap goes up every year, so do salaries. Players that were signed recently almost always make more than those signed a few years back. Players on their rookie deals are cheap. Contracts are often heavily backloaded. So money spent doesn't really tell you all that much.Second (and i know this is more arguable), relatively speaking, Oline isn't that valuable. Here are last year's franchise tag numbers:Quarterback: $29.70 millionDefensive end: $17.86 millionWide receiver: $18.42 millionLinebacker: $18.70 millionCornerback: $17.29 millionDefensive tackle: $17.40 millionOffensive line: $16.66 millionSafety: $12.91 millionRunning back: $9.57 millionTight end: $10.93 millionSpecialists: $5.22 millionI don't want my team to be top heavy capwise on Oline. Generally speaking it's bad strategy.But again, the way the cap and contracts are, you're not necessarily gonna get a great picture of what a team values going by spending alone... RFU Season Ticket Holder 2 by bremillard 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 697 Joined: Sep 30 2019 LA Coliseum Veteran The O line POST #448 PARAM wrote:Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022https://www.iggles.com/eagles-offensive ... n%20payout. by PARAM 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #449 bremillard wrote:https://www.iggles.com/eagles-offensive ... n%20payout.Well that's interesting. We're talking about how much money is being spent this season (cap hits), which is irrelevant in itself but you're talking about total contracts over three, four, five or more years. Hell that's even less relevant! How many voidable years on those deals? How much is being spread over the life of the contract? How many of those guys are going to see the final 2 years of those deals? How many will restructure? Money spent DOES NOT equate to success. So your premise about the Rams not spending as much money as they should is misplaced at best , wrong otherwise.Tell me something.....the Rams are spending 14.7 in cap hits on our original 5 and next year if Edwards leaves via UFA and the other four remain, we'll be spending 33.8 mil. Based on your theory, why would release any of them? They should be much better when their cap hits are higher!!! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by JackPMiller 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2729 Joined: Sep 22 2016 LA Coliseum Superstar The O line POST #450 PARAM wrote:Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022Three of the five OLinemen, are still on rookie deals. Lane Johnson signed to a shorter contract, due to he had some injury history, and Kelce plays Center, which is usually underpaid. Reply 45 / 58 1 45 58 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 573 posts Jul 08 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by safer 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1431 Joined: Feb 03 2016 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl The O line POST #442 I'm a huge McSnead fan BUT, I was really pissed when I kept reading about how we were gonna go after OBJ; a passrusher, or McCaffrey or some position other than Oline before the trade deadline. We needed to bring in at least one proven, Oline stud to really push our young linemen THIS year. Hav is solid; we've got three OG's on IR; and Jackson, to me is gonna be a stud for us. I think if you take any team and lose that many guys upfront plus your two best O players, you're gonna b pretty well fucked, right?BTW, speaking of QB's, I would not be totally shocked if Stafford did seriously consider retiring after how much head trauma he suffered thru this year. by 69RamFan 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3592 Joined: Oct 15 2016 LA CA by way of NY/NJ Superstar The O line POST #443 safer wrote:BTW, speaking of QB's, I would not be totally shocked if Stafford did seriously consider retiring after how much head trauma he suffered thru this year.I can see the RAMs trying to shut him down for the rest of the season, If the RAMs can do some FA signing to get a proven LT and G,Then from what I can see from Staff, I see him being a warrior, and he would want to return.But if he doesn't see the RAMs trying to improve in those two upgrades, Then I can see him calling it quits by /zn/ 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6942 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame The O line POST #444 PARAM, Elvis liked this post Sam Farmer@LATimesfarmerCardinals have gone through five different OL configurations. Rams refer to that as “consistency.” 2 by bremillard 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 697 Joined: Sep 30 2019 LA Coliseum Veteran The O line POST #445 PARAM wrote:Salary of the OL is irrelevant as far as success is concerned.The 2018 Rams paid their top 5 about 26 mil and they helped them get to the Superbowl, scoring a whopping 3 points once there. In 2019, they paid their starting five 28 mil! The 2020 Bucs paid their top five 39.7 mil and they won the Superbowl. This year they're paying 3 of those five 41.2 mil. And they're 5-6. Sure Jensen is out and that hurts, but they let their 2 G's leave because of money and injuries have affected that unit. Hell Wirfs just went down this week. Let's see how they fare going forwardI'll say this.....the Rams picked a good year to pay their line one of the lowest totals in the league! Can you imagine putting out 41 mil plus and having the number of injuries they've had? Of course somebody could try and tie salaries to injuries as well.Not quite irrelevant. The eagles pay their offensive line nearly 80 million. It's working this season. As for this year with the Rams and injuries? No argument from me. by PARAM 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #446 Last edited by PARAM on Dec 01 2022, edited 1 time in total. bremillard wrote:Not quite irrelevant. The eagles pay their offensive line nearly 80 million. It's working this season. As for this year with the Rams and injuries? No argument from me.Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022 Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Elvis 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 41507 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator The O line POST #447 PARAM, Hacksaw liked this post Going by money seems wrongheaded for at least a couple reasons.First, a player's salary has a ton to do with where they are in their contract's cycle and career. The cap goes up every year, so do salaries. Players that were signed recently almost always make more than those signed a few years back. Players on their rookie deals are cheap. Contracts are often heavily backloaded. So money spent doesn't really tell you all that much.Second (and i know this is more arguable), relatively speaking, Oline isn't that valuable. Here are last year's franchise tag numbers:Quarterback: $29.70 millionDefensive end: $17.86 millionWide receiver: $18.42 millionLinebacker: $18.70 millionCornerback: $17.29 millionDefensive tackle: $17.40 millionOffensive line: $16.66 millionSafety: $12.91 millionRunning back: $9.57 millionTight end: $10.93 millionSpecialists: $5.22 millionI don't want my team to be top heavy capwise on Oline. Generally speaking it's bad strategy.But again, the way the cap and contracts are, you're not necessarily gonna get a great picture of what a team values going by spending alone... RFU Season Ticket Holder 2 by bremillard 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 697 Joined: Sep 30 2019 LA Coliseum Veteran The O line POST #448 PARAM wrote:Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022https://www.iggles.com/eagles-offensive ... n%20payout. by PARAM 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #449 bremillard wrote:https://www.iggles.com/eagles-offensive ... n%20payout.Well that's interesting. We're talking about how much money is being spent this season (cap hits), which is irrelevant in itself but you're talking about total contracts over three, four, five or more years. Hell that's even less relevant! How many voidable years on those deals? How much is being spread over the life of the contract? How many of those guys are going to see the final 2 years of those deals? How many will restructure? Money spent DOES NOT equate to success. So your premise about the Rams not spending as much money as they should is misplaced at best , wrong otherwise.Tell me something.....the Rams are spending 14.7 in cap hits on our original 5 and next year if Edwards leaves via UFA and the other four remain, we'll be spending 33.8 mil. Based on your theory, why would release any of them? They should be much better when their cap hits are higher!!! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by JackPMiller 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2729 Joined: Sep 22 2016 LA Coliseum Superstar The O line POST #450 PARAM wrote:Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022Three of the five OLinemen, are still on rookie deals. Lane Johnson signed to a shorter contract, due to he had some injury history, and Kelce plays Center, which is usually underpaid. Reply 45 / 58 1 45 58 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 573 posts Jul 08 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by 69RamFan 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3592 Joined: Oct 15 2016 LA CA by way of NY/NJ Superstar The O line POST #443 safer wrote:BTW, speaking of QB's, I would not be totally shocked if Stafford did seriously consider retiring after how much head trauma he suffered thru this year.I can see the RAMs trying to shut him down for the rest of the season, If the RAMs can do some FA signing to get a proven LT and G,Then from what I can see from Staff, I see him being a warrior, and he would want to return.But if he doesn't see the RAMs trying to improve in those two upgrades, Then I can see him calling it quits by /zn/ 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6942 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame The O line POST #444 PARAM, Elvis liked this post Sam Farmer@LATimesfarmerCardinals have gone through five different OL configurations. Rams refer to that as “consistency.” 2 by bremillard 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 697 Joined: Sep 30 2019 LA Coliseum Veteran The O line POST #445 PARAM wrote:Salary of the OL is irrelevant as far as success is concerned.The 2018 Rams paid their top 5 about 26 mil and they helped them get to the Superbowl, scoring a whopping 3 points once there. In 2019, they paid their starting five 28 mil! The 2020 Bucs paid their top five 39.7 mil and they won the Superbowl. This year they're paying 3 of those five 41.2 mil. And they're 5-6. Sure Jensen is out and that hurts, but they let their 2 G's leave because of money and injuries have affected that unit. Hell Wirfs just went down this week. Let's see how they fare going forwardI'll say this.....the Rams picked a good year to pay their line one of the lowest totals in the league! Can you imagine putting out 41 mil plus and having the number of injuries they've had? Of course somebody could try and tie salaries to injuries as well.Not quite irrelevant. The eagles pay their offensive line nearly 80 million. It's working this season. As for this year with the Rams and injuries? No argument from me. by PARAM 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #446 Last edited by PARAM on Dec 01 2022, edited 1 time in total. bremillard wrote:Not quite irrelevant. The eagles pay their offensive line nearly 80 million. It's working this season. As for this year with the Rams and injuries? No argument from me.Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022 Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Elvis 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 41507 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator The O line POST #447 PARAM, Hacksaw liked this post Going by money seems wrongheaded for at least a couple reasons.First, a player's salary has a ton to do with where they are in their contract's cycle and career. The cap goes up every year, so do salaries. Players that were signed recently almost always make more than those signed a few years back. Players on their rookie deals are cheap. Contracts are often heavily backloaded. So money spent doesn't really tell you all that much.Second (and i know this is more arguable), relatively speaking, Oline isn't that valuable. Here are last year's franchise tag numbers:Quarterback: $29.70 millionDefensive end: $17.86 millionWide receiver: $18.42 millionLinebacker: $18.70 millionCornerback: $17.29 millionDefensive tackle: $17.40 millionOffensive line: $16.66 millionSafety: $12.91 millionRunning back: $9.57 millionTight end: $10.93 millionSpecialists: $5.22 millionI don't want my team to be top heavy capwise on Oline. Generally speaking it's bad strategy.But again, the way the cap and contracts are, you're not necessarily gonna get a great picture of what a team values going by spending alone... RFU Season Ticket Holder 2 by bremillard 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 697 Joined: Sep 30 2019 LA Coliseum Veteran The O line POST #448 PARAM wrote:Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022https://www.iggles.com/eagles-offensive ... n%20payout. by PARAM 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #449 bremillard wrote:https://www.iggles.com/eagles-offensive ... n%20payout.Well that's interesting. We're talking about how much money is being spent this season (cap hits), which is irrelevant in itself but you're talking about total contracts over three, four, five or more years. Hell that's even less relevant! How many voidable years on those deals? How much is being spread over the life of the contract? How many of those guys are going to see the final 2 years of those deals? How many will restructure? Money spent DOES NOT equate to success. So your premise about the Rams not spending as much money as they should is misplaced at best , wrong otherwise.Tell me something.....the Rams are spending 14.7 in cap hits on our original 5 and next year if Edwards leaves via UFA and the other four remain, we'll be spending 33.8 mil. Based on your theory, why would release any of them? They should be much better when their cap hits are higher!!! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by JackPMiller 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2729 Joined: Sep 22 2016 LA Coliseum Superstar The O line POST #450 PARAM wrote:Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022Three of the five OLinemen, are still on rookie deals. Lane Johnson signed to a shorter contract, due to he had some injury history, and Kelce plays Center, which is usually underpaid. Reply 45 / 58 1 45 58 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 573 posts Jul 08 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by /zn/ 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6942 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame The O line POST #444 PARAM, Elvis liked this post Sam Farmer@LATimesfarmerCardinals have gone through five different OL configurations. Rams refer to that as “consistency.” 2 by bremillard 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 697 Joined: Sep 30 2019 LA Coliseum Veteran The O line POST #445 PARAM wrote:Salary of the OL is irrelevant as far as success is concerned.The 2018 Rams paid their top 5 about 26 mil and they helped them get to the Superbowl, scoring a whopping 3 points once there. In 2019, they paid their starting five 28 mil! The 2020 Bucs paid their top five 39.7 mil and they won the Superbowl. This year they're paying 3 of those five 41.2 mil. And they're 5-6. Sure Jensen is out and that hurts, but they let their 2 G's leave because of money and injuries have affected that unit. Hell Wirfs just went down this week. Let's see how they fare going forwardI'll say this.....the Rams picked a good year to pay their line one of the lowest totals in the league! Can you imagine putting out 41 mil plus and having the number of injuries they've had? Of course somebody could try and tie salaries to injuries as well.Not quite irrelevant. The eagles pay their offensive line nearly 80 million. It's working this season. As for this year with the Rams and injuries? No argument from me. by PARAM 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #446 Last edited by PARAM on Dec 01 2022, edited 1 time in total. bremillard wrote:Not quite irrelevant. The eagles pay their offensive line nearly 80 million. It's working this season. As for this year with the Rams and injuries? No argument from me.Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022 Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Elvis 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 41507 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator The O line POST #447 PARAM, Hacksaw liked this post Going by money seems wrongheaded for at least a couple reasons.First, a player's salary has a ton to do with where they are in their contract's cycle and career. The cap goes up every year, so do salaries. Players that were signed recently almost always make more than those signed a few years back. Players on their rookie deals are cheap. Contracts are often heavily backloaded. So money spent doesn't really tell you all that much.Second (and i know this is more arguable), relatively speaking, Oline isn't that valuable. Here are last year's franchise tag numbers:Quarterback: $29.70 millionDefensive end: $17.86 millionWide receiver: $18.42 millionLinebacker: $18.70 millionCornerback: $17.29 millionDefensive tackle: $17.40 millionOffensive line: $16.66 millionSafety: $12.91 millionRunning back: $9.57 millionTight end: $10.93 millionSpecialists: $5.22 millionI don't want my team to be top heavy capwise on Oline. Generally speaking it's bad strategy.But again, the way the cap and contracts are, you're not necessarily gonna get a great picture of what a team values going by spending alone... RFU Season Ticket Holder 2 by bremillard 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 697 Joined: Sep 30 2019 LA Coliseum Veteran The O line POST #448 PARAM wrote:Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022https://www.iggles.com/eagles-offensive ... n%20payout. by PARAM 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #449 bremillard wrote:https://www.iggles.com/eagles-offensive ... n%20payout.Well that's interesting. We're talking about how much money is being spent this season (cap hits), which is irrelevant in itself but you're talking about total contracts over three, four, five or more years. Hell that's even less relevant! How many voidable years on those deals? How much is being spread over the life of the contract? How many of those guys are going to see the final 2 years of those deals? How many will restructure? Money spent DOES NOT equate to success. So your premise about the Rams not spending as much money as they should is misplaced at best , wrong otherwise.Tell me something.....the Rams are spending 14.7 in cap hits on our original 5 and next year if Edwards leaves via UFA and the other four remain, we'll be spending 33.8 mil. Based on your theory, why would release any of them? They should be much better when their cap hits are higher!!! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by JackPMiller 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2729 Joined: Sep 22 2016 LA Coliseum Superstar The O line POST #450 PARAM wrote:Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022Three of the five OLinemen, are still on rookie deals. Lane Johnson signed to a shorter contract, due to he had some injury history, and Kelce plays Center, which is usually underpaid. Reply 45 / 58 1 45 58 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 573 posts Jul 08 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by bremillard 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 697 Joined: Sep 30 2019 LA Coliseum Veteran The O line POST #445 PARAM wrote:Salary of the OL is irrelevant as far as success is concerned.The 2018 Rams paid their top 5 about 26 mil and they helped them get to the Superbowl, scoring a whopping 3 points once there. In 2019, they paid their starting five 28 mil! The 2020 Bucs paid their top five 39.7 mil and they won the Superbowl. This year they're paying 3 of those five 41.2 mil. And they're 5-6. Sure Jensen is out and that hurts, but they let their 2 G's leave because of money and injuries have affected that unit. Hell Wirfs just went down this week. Let's see how they fare going forwardI'll say this.....the Rams picked a good year to pay their line one of the lowest totals in the league! Can you imagine putting out 41 mil plus and having the number of injuries they've had? Of course somebody could try and tie salaries to injuries as well.Not quite irrelevant. The eagles pay their offensive line nearly 80 million. It's working this season. As for this year with the Rams and injuries? No argument from me. by PARAM 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #446 Last edited by PARAM on Dec 01 2022, edited 1 time in total. bremillard wrote:Not quite irrelevant. The eagles pay their offensive line nearly 80 million. It's working this season. As for this year with the Rams and injuries? No argument from me.Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022 Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Elvis 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 41507 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator The O line POST #447 PARAM, Hacksaw liked this post Going by money seems wrongheaded for at least a couple reasons.First, a player's salary has a ton to do with where they are in their contract's cycle and career. The cap goes up every year, so do salaries. Players that were signed recently almost always make more than those signed a few years back. Players on their rookie deals are cheap. Contracts are often heavily backloaded. So money spent doesn't really tell you all that much.Second (and i know this is more arguable), relatively speaking, Oline isn't that valuable. Here are last year's franchise tag numbers:Quarterback: $29.70 millionDefensive end: $17.86 millionWide receiver: $18.42 millionLinebacker: $18.70 millionCornerback: $17.29 millionDefensive tackle: $17.40 millionOffensive line: $16.66 millionSafety: $12.91 millionRunning back: $9.57 millionTight end: $10.93 millionSpecialists: $5.22 millionI don't want my team to be top heavy capwise on Oline. Generally speaking it's bad strategy.But again, the way the cap and contracts are, you're not necessarily gonna get a great picture of what a team values going by spending alone... RFU Season Ticket Holder 2 by bremillard 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 697 Joined: Sep 30 2019 LA Coliseum Veteran The O line POST #448 PARAM wrote:Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022https://www.iggles.com/eagles-offensive ... n%20payout. by PARAM 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #449 bremillard wrote:https://www.iggles.com/eagles-offensive ... n%20payout.Well that's interesting. We're talking about how much money is being spent this season (cap hits), which is irrelevant in itself but you're talking about total contracts over three, four, five or more years. Hell that's even less relevant! How many voidable years on those deals? How much is being spread over the life of the contract? How many of those guys are going to see the final 2 years of those deals? How many will restructure? Money spent DOES NOT equate to success. So your premise about the Rams not spending as much money as they should is misplaced at best , wrong otherwise.Tell me something.....the Rams are spending 14.7 in cap hits on our original 5 and next year if Edwards leaves via UFA and the other four remain, we'll be spending 33.8 mil. Based on your theory, why would release any of them? They should be much better when their cap hits are higher!!! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by JackPMiller 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2729 Joined: Sep 22 2016 LA Coliseum Superstar The O line POST #450 PARAM wrote:Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022Three of the five OLinemen, are still on rookie deals. Lane Johnson signed to a shorter contract, due to he had some injury history, and Kelce plays Center, which is usually underpaid. Reply 45 / 58 1 45 58 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 573 posts Jul 08 2025
by PARAM 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #446 Last edited by PARAM on Dec 01 2022, edited 1 time in total. bremillard wrote:Not quite irrelevant. The eagles pay their offensive line nearly 80 million. It's working this season. As for this year with the Rams and injuries? No argument from me.Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022 Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Elvis 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 41507 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator The O line POST #447 PARAM, Hacksaw liked this post Going by money seems wrongheaded for at least a couple reasons.First, a player's salary has a ton to do with where they are in their contract's cycle and career. The cap goes up every year, so do salaries. Players that were signed recently almost always make more than those signed a few years back. Players on their rookie deals are cheap. Contracts are often heavily backloaded. So money spent doesn't really tell you all that much.Second (and i know this is more arguable), relatively speaking, Oline isn't that valuable. Here are last year's franchise tag numbers:Quarterback: $29.70 millionDefensive end: $17.86 millionWide receiver: $18.42 millionLinebacker: $18.70 millionCornerback: $17.29 millionDefensive tackle: $17.40 millionOffensive line: $16.66 millionSafety: $12.91 millionRunning back: $9.57 millionTight end: $10.93 millionSpecialists: $5.22 millionI don't want my team to be top heavy capwise on Oline. Generally speaking it's bad strategy.But again, the way the cap and contracts are, you're not necessarily gonna get a great picture of what a team values going by spending alone... RFU Season Ticket Holder 2 by bremillard 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 697 Joined: Sep 30 2019 LA Coliseum Veteran The O line POST #448 PARAM wrote:Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022https://www.iggles.com/eagles-offensive ... n%20payout. by PARAM 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #449 bremillard wrote:https://www.iggles.com/eagles-offensive ... n%20payout.Well that's interesting. We're talking about how much money is being spent this season (cap hits), which is irrelevant in itself but you're talking about total contracts over three, four, five or more years. Hell that's even less relevant! How many voidable years on those deals? How much is being spread over the life of the contract? How many of those guys are going to see the final 2 years of those deals? How many will restructure? Money spent DOES NOT equate to success. So your premise about the Rams not spending as much money as they should is misplaced at best , wrong otherwise.Tell me something.....the Rams are spending 14.7 in cap hits on our original 5 and next year if Edwards leaves via UFA and the other four remain, we'll be spending 33.8 mil. Based on your theory, why would release any of them? They should be much better when their cap hits are higher!!! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by JackPMiller 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2729 Joined: Sep 22 2016 LA Coliseum Superstar The O line POST #450 PARAM wrote:Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022Three of the five OLinemen, are still on rookie deals. Lane Johnson signed to a shorter contract, due to he had some injury history, and Kelce plays Center, which is usually underpaid. Reply 45 / 58 1 45 58 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 573 posts Jul 08 2025
by Elvis 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 41507 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator The O line POST #447 PARAM, Hacksaw liked this post Going by money seems wrongheaded for at least a couple reasons.First, a player's salary has a ton to do with where they are in their contract's cycle and career. The cap goes up every year, so do salaries. Players that were signed recently almost always make more than those signed a few years back. Players on their rookie deals are cheap. Contracts are often heavily backloaded. So money spent doesn't really tell you all that much.Second (and i know this is more arguable), relatively speaking, Oline isn't that valuable. Here are last year's franchise tag numbers:Quarterback: $29.70 millionDefensive end: $17.86 millionWide receiver: $18.42 millionLinebacker: $18.70 millionCornerback: $17.29 millionDefensive tackle: $17.40 millionOffensive line: $16.66 millionSafety: $12.91 millionRunning back: $9.57 millionTight end: $10.93 millionSpecialists: $5.22 millionI don't want my team to be top heavy capwise on Oline. Generally speaking it's bad strategy.But again, the way the cap and contracts are, you're not necessarily gonna get a great picture of what a team values going by spending alone... RFU Season Ticket Holder 2 by bremillard 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 697 Joined: Sep 30 2019 LA Coliseum Veteran The O line POST #448 PARAM wrote:Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022https://www.iggles.com/eagles-offensive ... n%20payout. by PARAM 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #449 bremillard wrote:https://www.iggles.com/eagles-offensive ... n%20payout.Well that's interesting. We're talking about how much money is being spent this season (cap hits), which is irrelevant in itself but you're talking about total contracts over three, four, five or more years. Hell that's even less relevant! How many voidable years on those deals? How much is being spread over the life of the contract? How many of those guys are going to see the final 2 years of those deals? How many will restructure? Money spent DOES NOT equate to success. So your premise about the Rams not spending as much money as they should is misplaced at best , wrong otherwise.Tell me something.....the Rams are spending 14.7 in cap hits on our original 5 and next year if Edwards leaves via UFA and the other four remain, we'll be spending 33.8 mil. Based on your theory, why would release any of them? They should be much better when their cap hits are higher!!! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by JackPMiller 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2729 Joined: Sep 22 2016 LA Coliseum Superstar The O line POST #450 PARAM wrote:Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022Three of the five OLinemen, are still on rookie deals. Lane Johnson signed to a shorter contract, due to he had some injury history, and Kelce plays Center, which is usually underpaid. Reply 45 / 58 1 45 58 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 573 posts Jul 08 2025
by bremillard 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 697 Joined: Sep 30 2019 LA Coliseum Veteran The O line POST #448 PARAM wrote:Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022https://www.iggles.com/eagles-offensive ... n%20payout. by PARAM 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #449 bremillard wrote:https://www.iggles.com/eagles-offensive ... n%20payout.Well that's interesting. We're talking about how much money is being spent this season (cap hits), which is irrelevant in itself but you're talking about total contracts over three, four, five or more years. Hell that's even less relevant! How many voidable years on those deals? How much is being spread over the life of the contract? How many of those guys are going to see the final 2 years of those deals? How many will restructure? Money spent DOES NOT equate to success. So your premise about the Rams not spending as much money as they should is misplaced at best , wrong otherwise.Tell me something.....the Rams are spending 14.7 in cap hits on our original 5 and next year if Edwards leaves via UFA and the other four remain, we'll be spending 33.8 mil. Based on your theory, why would release any of them? They should be much better when their cap hits are higher!!! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by JackPMiller 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2729 Joined: Sep 22 2016 LA Coliseum Superstar The O line POST #450 PARAM wrote:Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022Three of the five OLinemen, are still on rookie deals. Lane Johnson signed to a shorter contract, due to he had some injury history, and Kelce plays Center, which is usually underpaid. Reply 45 / 58 1 45 58 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 573 posts Jul 08 2025
by PARAM 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #449 bremillard wrote:https://www.iggles.com/eagles-offensive ... n%20payout.Well that's interesting. We're talking about how much money is being spent this season (cap hits), which is irrelevant in itself but you're talking about total contracts over three, four, five or more years. Hell that's even less relevant! How many voidable years on those deals? How much is being spread over the life of the contract? How many of those guys are going to see the final 2 years of those deals? How many will restructure? Money spent DOES NOT equate to success. So your premise about the Rams not spending as much money as they should is misplaced at best , wrong otherwise.Tell me something.....the Rams are spending 14.7 in cap hits on our original 5 and next year if Edwards leaves via UFA and the other four remain, we'll be spending 33.8 mil. Based on your theory, why would release any of them? They should be much better when their cap hits are higher!!! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by JackPMiller 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2729 Joined: Sep 22 2016 LA Coliseum Superstar The O line POST #450 PARAM wrote:Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022Three of the five OLinemen, are still on rookie deals. Lane Johnson signed to a shorter contract, due to he had some injury history, and Kelce plays Center, which is usually underpaid. Reply 45 / 58 1 45 58 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 573 posts Jul 08 2025
by JackPMiller 2 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2729 Joined: Sep 22 2016 LA Coliseum Superstar The O line POST #450 PARAM wrote:Where the hell are you getting your numbers?Here's the cap hits for their starting 5:Mailata 4.4 milJohnson 11.1 milSeumalo 4.0Kelce 8.1Dickerson 2.0That's under 30 milIt IS irrelevant as I pointed out with Tampa 2020 & 2022Three of the five OLinemen, are still on rookie deals. Lane Johnson signed to a shorter contract, due to he had some injury history, and Kelce plays Center, which is usually underpaid. Reply 45 / 58 1 45 58 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business