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 by rams74
2 years 7 months ago
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Italy   Glendale, Arizona
Pro Bowl

69RamFan wrote:We need to keep Staff on the bench now

Maybe so, but I've got a nickel that says he plays as soon as he's cleared.

 by PARAM
2 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   13219  
 Joined:  Jul 15 2015
Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
Hall of Fame

ramsman34 wrote:Still don’t think we win more than 2 games form here on out.
From SB Champ to 5-12. Ugh. 2022 Still unwritten I suppose.


That would certainly suck the rest of the way only to be alleviated if they found a baller or two who was lost on the roster. That and a pick in the top 6 of the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Anybody who has been a Ram fan for a decent length of time should be able to deal with that, particularly if 2022 ends up being just a temporary setback.

 by CanuckRightWinger
2 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   2777  
 Joined:  Jan 13 2016
Canada   VANCOUVER, BC
Superstar

Answering Mr.Sparkle & ramsman34....
yeah, if David Edwards is back this Sunday in NO, we'll have 80% of our original 2022 Season Opener OLine back together again.....
only missing Joe Noteboom, who, truth be told, was NOT so hot as JN was leading the NFL in surrendering sacks (5), QB hits (8) and QB Pressures (22Tie) prior to getting IR'd.....so we're not missing much there.

BTW that Original 2022 Ram OL, let's call them the AllStars, in that season opener against Buffalo, gave up the following:
7 QB Sacks & 16 QB Hits causing Matthew CumulativeHeadShots! Stafford to go 29/41/240 yds, 1 TD, 3 Picks, 63.0 QB Rating...
the 2022 Original Ram OL AllStars also run-blocked badly :oops2: yeilding only 52yds on 18 carries, 2.9 YPC. :roll2:

Since that Buffalo nachtmare, Los Ramos have employed some other 8 OL combinations....
let's call those Ram 2022 OLs, the Ram "NextMenUp!" OLs.

Interestingly, those NextMenUp OLs, over our next 8 games after the 2022 Ram OL AllStars' Buffalo Sackfest in the opener.....
in the next 8 games, those other 8 NextMenUp! combos have only given up a total of "only" 24 QB sacks (per ESPN stats...31 Total 2022 Ram QB sacks surrendered including Sunday's Zona game minus the 7 sacks the AllStars gave up to Buffalo, equals 24 sacks in 8 NFL games, or 3 sacks per game surrendered by 2022 Ram NextMenUp OLs). :? :arrow2: :o

SO....TaleOfTheTape STATISTICS for Los Ramos 2022 QB sacks surrendered so far:
Original MAX-GEL 2022 Ram OL AllStars (Noteboom, Edwards, Allen, Coleman Sheldon, Havenstein) = 7 QB Sacks/Game
2022 NO-GEL! Ram NextMenUp OLs (Aboushi, Nsekhe, Anchrum, Kolone, AJax, Evans, Brewer et al) = 3 QB Sacks/Game :shock2: :shock2: :shock2:

So.....with this possible return of David Edwards to his 2022 Original AllStar OL position of LG....
um, statistically speaking.....is that a good thing?.....or a bad thing? :? :arrow2: :?2:

 by Elvis
2 years 7 months ago
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 Joined:  Mar 28 2015
United States of America   Los Angeles
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rams74 wrote:Maybe so, but I've got a nickel that says he plays as soon as he's cleared.


Winner winner...

 by ramsman34
2 years 7 months ago
 Total posts:   10040  
 Joined:  Apr 16 2015
United States of America   Back in LA baby!
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CanuckRightWinger wrote:Answering Mr.Sparkle & ramsman34....
yeah, if David Edwards is back this Sunday in NO, we'll have 80% of our original 2022 Season Opener OLine back together again.....
only missing Joe Noteboom, who, truth be told, was NOT so hot as JN was leading the NFL in surrendering sacks (5), QB hits (8) and QB Pressures (22Tie) prior to getting IR'd.....so we're not missing much there.

BTW that Original 2022 Ram OL, let's call them the AllStars, in that season opener against Buffalo, gave up the following:
7 QB Sacks & 16 QB Hits causing Matthew CumulativeHeadShots! Stafford to go 29/41/240 yds, 1 TD, 3 Picks, 63.0 QB Rating...
the 2022 Original Ram OL AllStars also run-blocked badly :oops2: yeilding only 52yds on 18 carries, 2.9 YPC. :roll2:

Since that Buffalo nachtmare, Los Ramos have employed some other 8 OL combinations....
let's call those Ram 2022 OLs, the Ram "NextMenUp!" OLs.

Interestingly, those NextMenUp OLs, over our next 8 games after the 2022 Ram OL AllStars' Buffalo Sackfest in the opener.....
in the next 8 games, those other 8 NextMenUp! combos have only given up a total of "only" 24 QB sacks (per ESPN stats...31 Total 2022 Ram QB sacks surrendered including Sunday's Zona game minus the 7 sacks the AllStars gave up to Buffalo, equals 24 sacks in 8 NFL games, or 3 sacks per game surrendered by 2022 Ram NextMenUp OLs). :? :arrow2: :o

SO....TaleOfTheTape STATISTICS for Los Ramos 2022 QB sacks surrendered so far:
Original MAX-GEL 2022 Ram OL AllStars (Noteboom, Edwards, Allen, Coleman Sheldon, Havenstein) = 7 QB Sacks/Game
2022 NO-GEL! Ram NextMenUp OLs (Aboushi, Nsekhe, Anchrum, Kolone, AJax, Evans, Brewer et al) = 3 QB Sacks/Game :shock2: :shock2: :shock2:

So.....with this possible return of David Edwards to his 2022 Original AllStar OL position of LG....
um, statistically speaking.....is that a good thing?.....or a bad thing? :? :arrow2: :?2:


Brian Allen might be out. So the carousel continues at RG as Shelton would play C.

I wonder just how many new bodies the Rams bring into the OL room this off-season?? My guess is quite a few.

 by PARAM
2 years 7 months ago
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Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
Hall of Fame

ramsman34 wrote:Brian Allen might be out. So the carousel continues at RG as Shelton would play C.


Never seen the amount of OL attrition like this.

7-1-1-7-5-1-2-4-3...sacks by the week

vs Buffalo, San Fran, Dallas and Tampa we allowed 23 sacks (almost 6 sacks per game). In the other 5 games we allowed 8. In those 4 games where we allowed 23 sacks we dropped back to pass 183 times (almost 46 drops/game) vs very good Ds. Last year, our 4 worst games in terms of sacks was 17 (5-4-3-5) on 156 drops. The difference was a sack every 8 drops (2022) vs a sack every 9 drops (2021). Not a big difference.

 by ramsman34
2 years 7 months ago
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United States of America   Back in LA baby!
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PARAM wrote:Never seen the amount of OL attrition like this.

7-1-1-7-5-1-2-4-3...sacks by the week

vs Buffalo, San Fran, Dallas and Tampa we allowed 23 sacks (almost 6 sacks per game). In the other 5 games we allowed 8. In those 4 games where we allowed 23 sacks we dropped back to pass 183 times (almost 46 drops/game) vs very good Ds. Last year, our 4 worst games in terms of sacks was 17 (5-4-3-5) on 156 drops. The difference was a sack every 8 drops (2022) vs a sack every 9 drops (2021). Not a big difference.


But how many more drop backs/drop backs per game this season compared to last? We have been behind so much this season that we constantly have to throw.

 by PARAM
2 years 7 months ago
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Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
Hall of Fame

ramsman34 wrote:But how many more drop backs/drop backs per game this season compared to last? We have been behind so much this season that we constan⁴tly have to throw.


40 dropbacks per game this year
37.5 last year

In 2022, we've been sacked 7 times on first down (130 dropbacks), 15 times on 2nd down (133 dbs) and 9 times on 3rd down (88 dbs). Looks like a first down pass is a good idea.

 by ramsman34
2 years 7 months ago
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 Joined:  Apr 16 2015
United States of America   Back in LA baby!
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PARAM wrote:40 dropbacks per game this year
37.5 last year

In 2022, we've been sacked 7 times on first down (130 dropbacks), 15 times on 2nd down (133 dbs) and 9 times on 3rd down (88 dbs). Looks like a first down pass is a good idea.


First down is usually the best play action down, for obvious reasons and especially with MCV as he calls runs a lot on first down. Our starting OL could do an average job against average D fronts/pressure. Dial up the skill on D and every combo of this OL has been bad. I hope they have a plan to get the line to above avg. talent. That should be good enough as I am sure that’s how the SB OL would have graded out. You can have avg back ups. And maybe 1 or 2 on the OL. But I think you need some great players mixed in so as a whole they play really well most of the time. The one area where rules changes probably hasn’t helped much is the OL. But I am spit ballin on that one.

 by PARAM
2 years 7 months ago
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 Joined:  Jul 15 2015
Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
Hall of Fame

ramsman34 wrote:Our starting OL could do an average job against average D fronts/pressure. Dial up the skill on D and every combo of this OL has been bad. I hope they have a plan to get the line to above avg. talent. That should be good enough as I am sure that’s how the SB OL would have graded out.


"Our starting line" started 1 game together. Against a very good defense. Then our 2nd line played 2 snaps together. In week 3 our starting left guard went out. In week 4 our second center/starting right guard went out. Then in week 5, our starting LG returned and went out again and then it got really bad. :o

I don't know how we can evaluate our "starting O line" with the way things unfolded. Correction, we can evaluate their play vs. Buffalo. As far as getting the line to above average talent, where do they start?

Will they keep Noteboom? Allen? Edwards is a UFA. Will they resign him? Do they want to? Jackson has blood clot issues. Is his career in jeopardy? Will Anchrum be back and finally get a shot? Is Bruss worthy of starting? Thank god for Havenstein, who fans have been trying to trade for years now! And Shelton has valuable versatility. I feel safe in saying they may sign a FA or two and/or draft another OL and I'm sure nobody really knows who from our current roster will be back (except Hav) and who will be gone. Who will start and who will backup. Nothing in any of those areas would shock me.

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