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 by Elvis
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Apparently this is Fisher's explanation: He wanted TB's kicker to have to make two XP's to beat the Rams because he was struggling.

Is that really worth allowing TB to tie the game with a TD and a FG instead of forcing them to score 2 TD's with only 4+ minutes left?

 by max
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Up 11 forces 1 TD+ 2xp, 1 FG
Up 12 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions.
Up 13 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions.

It comes down to what's the difference in approach between overcoming 12 pt deficit or 13 pt deficit.

You require either 2TDs or 3 possessions for both. No significant difference.

 by dieterbrock
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PARAM wrote:Yeah, I didn't understand the choice either. READ: I agree with you.

That being said, whether we successfully kicked the extra point or successfully converted the two point try, the situation is the same on Tampa's last drive. A TD wins it for them. **The reason I say that is**.....IF we kick the extra point or get the two pointer, they only have to go for 1 where they failed going for 2. If their kicker doesn't miss it's 38-33 (with our XP) or 39-33 (with our 2pt conversion). They still win it with a TD and an XP.

SO.....maybe that was Fisher's rational......go for 2 because if they score two TD's there's a chance their guy misses one of 2 XP attempts.

Only because Tampa didn't convert their 2 pt try. Had they done that, they would have only been a FG away from tying
Fisher gave them a chance to tie with a touchdown and a FG instead of leaving them in the position to have to score 2 TD. With only 4 minutes left in the game.
I really hope the answer isn't that Fisher wanted to give his team a chance to be tied if Tampa missed an XP

 by dieterbrock
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Elvis wrote:Apparently this is Fisher's explanation: He wanted TB's kicker to have to make two XP's to beat the Rams because he was struggling.

Is that really worth allowing TB to tie the game with a TD and a FG instead of forcing them to score 2 TD's with only 4+ minutes left?

Real confident his defense that his defense could keep Tampa out of the endzone 2 more times with only 4 minutes to go?
Just wow

 by Hacksaw
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Elvis wrote:Apparently this is Fisher's explanation: He wanted TB's kicker to have to make two XP's to beat the Rams because he was struggling.

Is that really worth allowing TB to tie the game with a TD and a FG instead of forcing them to score 2 TD's with only 4+ minutes left?


NO.

 by Elvis
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 by max
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That's great work by Curley.

I really respect that guy.

 by HopHead Ram
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max wrote:Up 11 forces 1 TD+ 2xp, 1 FG
Up 12 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions.
Up 13 forces 2TD, Or 3 possessions.

It comes down to what's the difference in approach between overcoming 12 pt deficit or 13 pt deficit.

You require either 2TDs or 3 possessions for both. No significant difference.

Here is a possible theory. I think he may have made the decision because he didn't trust his defense. Maybe he realized that his Defense was gassed and really didn't have anything left. You could look at the situation and think, Can my defense hold up to prevent 2 TDs or do we want to force them into a situation where they are taking a shot with a FG that will only tie if they cannot prevent the first TD and 2pt conversion. Forcing them to take a FG shot with the kicker having the day he was having may have, in his mind, been the safer approach. Playing not to lose- Classic Fisherball. Just look at the 2 pt conversion attempt by the Rams, What the hell was that? Maybe he wanted to only be up by 11 so his safe approach will play out. That hour long break gave the defense the time it needed to get their legs back under them and to make that final stand, if that didn't occur, I fear the result would have played out exactly what Fisher was fearing.

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