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 by 69RamFan
2 months 1 week ago
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United States of America   LA CA by way of NY/NJ
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ramsman34 wrote:They weren’t targeting him because of need. They wanted him because he is elite at a position that completely alters your offensive scheme and attacking mismatches. Yes, TE was and still is a relatively significant need. Bowers is Elite. Bowers plays a skill position. Bowers would have addressed one of the roster needs. Verse is elite. Fiske is great. If Verse was not there last year, do you honestly think they would have simply drafted the next best edge - Chop Robinson or Darius Robinson??

Maybe. But maybe they shift to a different player at a different position because that player is rated higher by the Rams.


Ok Bro, if that what you think,
but I still disagree with your premises.
I feel there were two needs during that time frame,
Due to Higbee's knee and being out for most of the year.
While Verse & Fiske combo, to replace AD's stats.

Plus, to add, I think the second choice in Verse & Fiske,
was a better fit for the RAMs then trading up and losing draft picks for Bower,
why, because we picked up Parkinson from FA, a two-way player,
that can block and go out as a receiver, just like a Higbee style type player.
Plus, we mostly use 11PG scheme, and during that time,
that was, Puka, Cooper, & Robinson as the WRs.

Yes, Bowers had a great year, but the Raiders didn't have other WRs like we had.
Bowers was used like a WR/Slot most of the time.
So, that means he wasn't staying in to block at all.

If per say, we would have traded up to get Bowers,
I feel our offense wouldn't have changed that much more,
why, because we only have one ball to throw to so many WRs.
Then are DL wouldn't have been that great,
because we would have traded away picks for Bowers.

As the saying goes, the best trades are the ones that you didn't make.

 by FMulder
2 months 1 week ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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My .02 is that if one of the 2 top-rated TEs somehow are there then that’s who I take. If not, CB or OT. Obviously you could add a variety of other positions after that but I really hope they take a WR and RB somewhere. I’ve read that those are positions you can get quality late in the draft.

Personally, I hope they don’t trade up.

 by ramsman34
2 months 1 week ago
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Oh I get what you are saying 69. But they apparently tried pretty damn hard to get Bowers. We will see how things unfold with this draft. The. We can all debate if they drafted best player or went after need or got lucky and both were addressed

Like Mulder said, I hope they don’t trade up for anyone. Trade back if at all possible.

 by actionjack
2 months 1 week ago
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United States of America   Sactown
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Elvis wrote:Fair enough but they did try pretty hard to draft offense in the 1st round last year..

Still, Guyton was available when they did draft...


Understood, my main point is no one really knows, subject to a lot of variables. But I have a hard time believing that the Rams tried to move up that much and that the Rams Plan B was Verse-Fiske. Getting Verse-Fiske seemed to part of the plan all along with replacing AD with numbers and with guys who could gel quickly as teammates.

 by Elvis
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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actionjack wrote:Understood, my main point is no one really knows, subject to a lot of variables. But I have a hard time believing that the Rams tried to move up that much and that the Rams Plan B was Verse-Fiske. Getting Verse-Fiske seemed to part of the plan all along with replacing AD with numbers and with guys who could gel quickly as teammates.


100% no one knows. The Rams don't know, too many variables. They know what their plans are, what their contingencies are, etc. but they don't know who they'll come away with. Nobody does.

After failing to get Bowers, Rams tried to trade up for Byron Murphy. Verse/Fiske was always one of the plans. And when they did draft Verse they set about getting Fiske...

 by 69RamFan
2 months 1 week ago
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United States of America   LA CA by way of NY/NJ
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ramsman34 wrote:Oh I get what you are saying 69. But they apparently tried pretty damn hard to get Bowers. We will see how things unfold with this draft. The. We can all debate if they drafted best player or went after need or got lucky and both were addressed

Like Mulder said, I hope they don’t trade up for anyone. Trade back if at all possible.


Don't forget, yes, I know what was said after the draft and that they were trying to get Bowers, IMO, I think that could also be a smoke screen too, just to get other teams to draft QBs and Bowers, in which it would move other good players down the draft board! Yes, I know they were asking around about trading up with other teams, but then again, we still don't know if that would have been Browers either. Snead and McVay, are pretty good actors, and smooth talkers.

Yes, I would like to see them trade down,
to get more picks in the top 100.

As of right now, we have our starters on both sides of the ball.
There is no one in the draft that is going to be a starter for us.
We are drafting for backup roles, and future starters.

I feel we need a solid swing tackle, first and foremost,
in which they would be the most important backup for our OL. IMO

 by 69RamFan
2 months 1 week ago
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Elvis wrote:It's not smoke. It happened:




Well, thank God it didn't happen!
I was ecstatic when they drafted Verse,
and the icing on the cake when they traded up to get Fiske!!!

As I stated, the best trades, are the ones that didn't happen!!! :D :D :D

 by BobCarl
2 months 1 week ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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69RamFan wrote:There is no one in the draft that is going to be a starter for us.

Was Puka Nacua expected to be a starter in his rookie season?


CB, TE, OL, and LB ... I'd like to see how those positions play as variables in the Rams Draft.

 by ramman2999
2 months 1 week ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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Man have yall seen Omarion Hampton???? Hes a man. Way more explosive than Williams. You saw what beat us on the other end Saquon Barkley.

Same kind of size. Thats why I said Jonathen Taylor at Wisconsin he was explosive. If he comes here with Adams and Nacua and Stafford hes running for 1300 yds.

He might be the missing piece it worked pretty good when we drafted Todd Gurley we didnt need him.

I would argue Omarion Hampton might be better than Ashton Genty this could be a Rickey Williams and Edgerin James all over again.


Hampton is a great pass protection. Back.

We struggled with Williams in big games. Pull up tape and look at the guy.

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