[Elvis]

[Dare]

actionjack:
Yeah I think it will depend on how the run on QB's go. I could see maybe the 3rd round if they really like someone, but frankly this regime has not scouted young QB's well.

I'm not so sure that is the case. They were absolutely right about Jared Goff. But then came McVay after the fact with a QB scheme that didn't fit Goff's talent. Jared goes to Detroit where they tailor it to Goff's strengths and they have an elite QB.

Now fast forward to 2025 and McVay's offense has changed. You need only look at the WRs they built it around. RBs are not scoring threats outside the red zone in the 2023 and 2024 version. The offense is a better fit to a wider range of QB talents.

The only thing that hasn't changed is that this is a QB that can play well in a read heavy scheme. The fact that this offense clicks with one of the more immobile QBs in the NFL is proof that mobility is nice but the ability to read and throw accurately at all 3 levels is still the key. The Gurley experience proved that a breakaway threat on the ground in the form of a stud RB works just fine with a mobility limited QB.

When I look at this current offense, some things become apparent to me at least.

1. QB must be good with his pre-snap reads. He must be able to go through his post-snap reads, i.e. progressions quickly and accurately. Many of the QBs projected to go outside the first don't fall into this category. This shows the most difficult part of a QB's developmental curve so IMO you want a rookie QB to have shown he can do it, that he just needs polishing, not learning how.

2. Prior to 2022 this was an offense pass game built to exploit the intermediate and deep patterns. In 2023 and 2024 that changed the emphasis to short and intermediate routes with deep routes only if a clear WR advantage is shown pre-snap. Adams and Atwell changed the emphasis once again. Puka, looks to be going to cook in the short to intermediate zones. Adams will do his work in the intermediate zone to the deep zone. Atwell will be probably short quick option or to take the top off forcing safeties to respect Atwell's speed and the YAC threat of Adams of an intermediate pass going the distance. What this offense lacks is a game breaker at RB either as a runner or receiver.

3. Looking at the contracts of Stafford, Adams, Atwell, and now Shelton this is a team built for a SB challenge NOW not later. Of the acquisitions Ford and Landman project as more long term type of signings.

4. What is the long term impact of needing to resign Stafford? That the Rams know that a dual threat QB isn't a requirement in this offense to be in competition for the SB. They only need the RB HR threat to complete the transition offensively. That will probably come with their top pick in the 3rd RD. RB is the easiest position for a RB to be a rookie starter. Speed to take it to the house from anywhere, vision, agility and power to run inside.

5. I'm seeing a trend towards Sean running a hybrid scheme of 2018 and 2024. The fact that Stafford is "year to year" tells me that they anticipate a QB taken this year will start in 2026 after a red shirt year of polishing his game. If you are willing to burn a year of a rookie's contract on the bench it only make sense to take the next franchise QB in the first round, so they control his contract for a total of 5 years.

6. Why trade down for a QB if you don't have too? #26 is basically a high second round pick with the advantage of that important 5th year. So, my evaluation of the next franchise QB would be that he will be advanced in his ability to read accurately pre-snap and work through his progressions accurately and quickly post snap. Must have good arm strength and accuracy to all three levels. That is to say this offense would be perfect for Goff. Is Jared a dual threat? No but he can move when he must, which is more a matter of age.

7. This is why IMO Kyle McCord fits the overall profile. His game is much like a young Stafford, i.e. wins with his arm and his brain, not with his feet. They may not pick McCord but of all the higher profie QBs he fits the profile closest.

[PARAM]

I'm not so sure that is the case. They were absolutely right about Jared Goff. But then came McVay after the fact with a QB scheme that didn't fit Goff's talent. Jared goes to Detroit where they tailor it to Goff's strengths and they have an elite QB.

Well now that just seems like a boatload of bullshit.

McVay's scheme didn't fit Goff's talents.....
and.....
Detroit built a scheme around Goff?

The Rams were 24-8 during Goff's first 2 years with McVay and went to a Super Bowl. Imagine what they could have done if they had a scheme to fit their QB, eh? WOW!!! You really have to be a savant to see through that!

It wasn't the more likely scenario that Goff was young and inexperienced (when it came to in game adjustments) under McVay and then played behind bad O lines in 2019 and 2020 but now enjoys as much, if not more talent than those Rams teams and works behind a great O line....not to mention being an 8 and 9 year vet with Detroit.

Like I said, gotta be a real football savant to see past the obvious!

Nevermind QBs fitting offenses. Having the story fit the opinion/narrative is what matters.

[Elvis]

[actionjack]

yep QB reaching, wonder if the Saints pull the trigger at 9.

[ramsman34]

I think Dart could be the key to our draft. Look at the teams who don’t need a QB and where they pick in the first round. Look at the teams who do need one and where they pick. If the teams who do need one and pick high don’t want to take Dart high, then who is going to try to trade back up into the first to get him? Steelers could take him at 21. I don’t see him going higher but he certainly could. If the Steelers pass, then the next 5 draft spots are in play for a trade as none of those teams “need” a QB. If he falls to #26, I can see the Rams trading that pick to get more ammo in rounds 2-4. I would love for the draft to unfold that way.

[PARAM]

I think Dart could be the key to our draft. Look at the teams who don’t need a QB and where they pick in the first round. Look at the teams who do need one and where they pick. If the teams who do need one and pick high don’t want to take Dart high, then who is going to try to trade back up into the first to get him? Steelers could take him at 21. I don’t see him going higher but he certainly could. If the Steelers pass, then the next 5 draft spots are in play for a trade as none of those teams “need” a QB. If he falls to #26, I can see the Rams trading that pick to get more ammo in rounds 2-4. I would love for the draft to unfold that way.

I've been reading a lot of rumors lately that the Rams are interested in a QB, early. Now either those media experts have been reading RFU and came across DARE'S posts or they're hearing it somewhere else. Or......the Rams have been employing propaganda to make everybody believe they're looking QB. But how would they benefit from that?

[Elvis]

I've been reading a lot of rumors lately that the Rams are interested in a QB, early. Now either those media experts have been reading RFU and came across DARE'S posts or they're hearing it somewhere else. Or......the Rams have been employing propaganda to make everybody believe they're looking QB. But how would they benefit from that?

Here's Jourdan on the subject:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17417&p=299743#p299741

Every year we hear about all the QBs that are rising and could go in the first round and they never do. Except last year when all of them did.

Hard to know what this draft is gonna be...

[majik]

Or they can trade that 26 pick to a QB needy team that will select Dart and get their 2026 1st rounder for ammo to use in the quest to draft Arch Manning in 2026

[Dare]

Can you imagine the circus that will surround Arch Manning's drafting? That would be a huge and I mean HUGE gamble to wait and hope you land the biggest fish in the pond.

They have had a plan for years and IMO they are simply sticking to it. They know who they want in this draft if they want a first round QB. I think it could be more than one, i.e. pick A and pick B. Pick A being one that projects as a year two starter and pick B starts in year two but not expected to blossom until 2027. That's why they are likely to pick a first round QB this year.

If they finish as a SB Champ this year they will be picking last next year. Regardless, the odds that their pick next year will be lower in the first round is very likely. Again just look at the Niner's dilemma with Purdy who basically only had a partial first year, then a great 2nd year and a so-so third year. Now are sweating whether to extend him or not. Had Purdy been a first round pick they could wait until next year to make the decision with 3 years of play history behind it. It's why I think they will punt and trade Purdy. IMO that is exactly what the Rams want to avoid.

If they want a running QB then their options are indeed limited compared to other years. But if they aren't overly concerned about mobility, then they could be looking at a pure pocket passer who doesn't offer RPO ability like Matt Stafford then their options are better. Stafford and McCord have a whole lot of similarities if you look at rookie Stafford. McCord has similar mobility to Stafford when he was a rookie. His game is pure pocket as was Stafford's as a rookie. IMO McCord should be on the board at 26 unless there is a run on QBs which accounts for Snead's comment. He could start as a rookie but would be best as a second year starter.

The OL and WR corps was built for Stafford. It would be completely compatible with a QB like McCord or another relatively immobile QB pocket passer. If they get who they want then it will be as close to plug n play as it gets for a QB in the NFL. Make no mistake McCord has good arm talent.