[St. Loser Fan]

I’m assuming you’re not going to tell every bar and restaurant in America to go buy 15 Chromecasts. How do you think that will play out?

Our deal is for residential rights. The commercial rights are separate, and that’s not part of our deal.

Google is going to need a quickly develop a hardware solution. Some sort of central box that is "rackable" and can distribute signals over existing runs of HDMI, Cat 5/6 or RF wire.

[actionjack]

Google will have Redzone.

and the NFL channel.


to be fair: why is everyone freaking out? this is GOOD FOR US.

this is literally the best thing to happen for NFL fans in ever. YouTube wants us. DTV hated us.

DTV IS dead for the NFL. accept it.

You are too funny, not sure what DTV ever did to you, but I have been with them for years and never had a real issue. There were several work arounds to get the service.

Its humorous to me that you think a walled garden like GOOGL gives a rats arse about the fans/customers. They care about making money plain a simple, and hope this will boost a weak streaming service. They have a 7 year shot to get it right, will see. At least I could count on getting Sunday Ticket for free or highly reduced with DTV, cant imagine GOOGL will do that lmao.

[St. Loser Fan]

FuboTV is getting the Ballys Sports Regions.

https://deadline.com/2022/12/bally-spor ... 235204339/

Hopefully this leads to them coming back to YTTV.

[bremillard]

The way the cap is, salaries are driven by revenue not the other way around.

In theory...maybe. Future revenue is also considered. Players can earn a slightly larger share through a media kicker depending on the size of the NFL’s future media rights deals.

[Elvis]

In theory...maybe. Future revenue is also considered. Players can earn a slightly larger share through a media kicker depending on the size of the NFL’s future media rights deals.

I'm not sure i get what you're saying but there is a salary cap. It's determined as a share of NFL revenue. That's written into the CBA.

So the NFL isn't raising prices to pay salaries it's calculationg salaries based on revenue.

Revenue goes up the cap goes up. Revenue goes down, cap goes down.

The NFL is going to do their best to maximize revenue, pretty much any business would...

[Elvis]

From Peter King:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... cid=fmiatw

1. I think there are a few things to keep in mind about the impact of the NFL moving its “Sunday Ticket” package to YouTube TV for at least the next seven years beginning in 2023. For those not familiar with the streaming world, YouTube TV gets all the major channels and charges homes about $64 per month for most of what can be purchased on cable TV … and there’s no hardware involved. There will be an additional charge to get Sunday Ticket; the price point has not been determined, but one TV person estimated it would be in the neighborhood of $300 for the season. Other points:

The NFL had no choice but to move away from DirecTV. The league has wanted out of the DirecTV partnership for a couple of years at least. Putting a big dish on the side or roof of a home is pretty yesterday, and the numbers reflect that. DirecTV had 25.4 million subscribers in 2015; just seven years later, per Fitch Ratings, the company has 13.3 million subscribers. Conversely, anyone with a smart phone, computer/tablet/laptop or smart TV can get YouTube TV.

Look what’s happened to the connected-TV world. Ten years ago, almost 100 million Americans had cable or satellite TV. That is forecast to be cut in half by 2025. To get YouTube TV, all you need is internet access and a device. It’s just far easier as a user experience.

The moolah. The NFL will make at least $2 billion a year, on average, from the deal. That’s up at least $500 million per year from DirecTV’s rights fee. There will be escalators for the NFL over the deal’s seven years, much of that related to how many streamers YouTube can attract. One thing about rights fees. Keep in mind that most media rights deals escalate over the years. So the league could get significantly less than $2 billion in early years, and significantly more in year seven. But the average of all the TV deals will pay the league about $13.2 billion per year. That means each team would be due an average of $412 million per year in TV fees. That’s up from $250 million per team per year under the old TV deals.

The salary cap. Players get 48.5 percent of most team revenue, including TV. So in the average season from 2023 to 2029, the TV rights deals will raise the salary cap $78 million per team.

International broadcast rights. Forgot those. They’ll be going up. All are short-term deals. Particularly in countries with football fever like Germany, it’s not a pittance—though that German TV contract does last through the 2025 season.

Seven years. Every one of these TV/media deals either expires or the NFL can opt out of after seven years—after the 2029 season. By design by the NFL.

YouTube TV is likely to innovate. Expect better graphics, with analytics and new ways to see the game—though nothing’s been finalized yet.

FOX and CBS, the Sunday afternoon homes of NFL games, have to be nervous. If a viewer pays for the new YouTube package, that will supply every game in the 6.5-hour window on either smart TVs or phones or computers. So it’s another pull away from needing cable to be able to see NFL games. (NBC, ESPN/ABC and Amazon Prime Video are not affected because their games are not on Sunday Ticket.)

One option YouTube TV should strongly consider: the single-team option. It’s common sense: Would a Browns fan but marginal full-NFL fan in Salem, Ore., pay $250 or so to get every NFL game? Why not offer a Browns fan all 13 or 14 of Cleveland’s games not on Sunday Ticket for, say, $75? I know the NFL has thought of this in the past, and it’s time the league and YouTube TV agreed to implement it.

[St. Loser Fan]

Peter King is wrong again. As I’ve stated YTTV doesn’t have Paramount/Viacom group channels and regional sports.

I thought the single team subscription stuff was driven by the NFL and wasn’t allowed by contract?

[jeffsquad]

Peter King is wrong again. As I’ve stated YTTV doesn’t have Paramount/Viacom group channels and regional sports.

I thought the single team subscription stuff was driven by the NFL and wasn’t allowed by contract?

Being a subscriber of YouTubeTV since 2019 I can assure you it includes channels like Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, and Paramount. But yes it does not include Bally Sports as of now.

[majik]

I would think charging $150 for a team’s games would be fair. Figure 9.99 per games while knocking $20 off for at least 2 national games per team that would be on Sunday Night, Monday Night, or Thursday Night. Asking the NFL to pro-rate it if your team has more than two of these game is probably asking too much

[St. Loser Fan]

Being a subscriber of YouTubeTV since 2019 I can assure you it includes channels like Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, and Paramount. But yes it does not include Bally Sports as of now.

I apologize. Good to hear as I still have one Nick watcher in the house.