by PARAM 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 13220 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be?/ Mike Sando QB Tiers POST #361 /zn/ wrote:So none of your other 2 examples show anywhere near the same degree of "below avg." games as Goff. Whose numbers you get wrong because you exclude the Detroit and Chicago games. (Or don't do the post-season, not sure which).It was the last 6 games of the season (including postseason) for those 3 QBs. Some folks cherry picked the last 8 games.....why not the last 10? 12? I cherry picked the last 6 games. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by snackdaddy 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Sando comments on his QB tiers report POST #362 max wrote:You bring up an important point. A bad QB rating is worse when you lose a game than when you win a game. For example, Wilson had a bad passer rating against the Vikes last year, but his team won big, he didn't have to do much since the running game went for over 200 yards and he only threw the ball 20 times.Exactly. Tom Brady had a poor game in the Superbowl. Rams defense did a good job of shutting him down. But he won. So there is no blueprint for the Patriots offense like there is for the Rams. by /zn/ 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 6942 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be?/ Mike Sando QB Tiers POST #363 Last edited by /zn/ on Jul 28 2019, edited 1 time in total. PARAM wrote:It was the last 6 games of the season (including postseason) for those 3 QBs. Some folks cherry picked the last 8 games.....why not the last 10? 12? I cherry picked the last 6 games.I did 8 games because with Goff the streak of below avg. games begins with Detroit. You can't cherry pick if you are doing "inconsistent." By definition "inconsistent" means it's good and below avg. games combined. Cherry picking means leaving things out. You can't say "inconsistent" and leave something out, by definition that's impossible.The reality is, he had a streak starting with the Lions where 5 of 8 games are below avg. There's 2 good games in the middle of that and one exceptional one where Goff came through on the road in a tough environment to help win a conference championship. So it's good + below avg = inconsistent. That really happened and so I say, start with that. Why that inconsistent patch happened is an interesting question. How much of that is on Goff is an interesting question (and I have ideas about that, if the discussion ever actually gets to that point.) Whether it's an effect of being a third year qb (and the history of other qbs says it is) is an interesting question. Lots of interesting questions. But it's not a question that it happened. .... by moklerman 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be?/ Mike Sando QB Tiers POST #364 dieterbrock wrote:Classic. You are completely incapable of reading. I exclude NOTHING. I don’t even know why I bother with you. Here’s what I did exclude, Goff is 100x better than your crush Sam Bradford. So you can keep playing your trolling game, but I’m done with you. Reply 37 / 37 1 37 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 364 posts Jul 09 2025
by snackdaddy 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Sando comments on his QB tiers report POST #362 max wrote:You bring up an important point. A bad QB rating is worse when you lose a game than when you win a game. For example, Wilson had a bad passer rating against the Vikes last year, but his team won big, he didn't have to do much since the running game went for over 200 yards and he only threw the ball 20 times.Exactly. Tom Brady had a poor game in the Superbowl. Rams defense did a good job of shutting him down. But he won. So there is no blueprint for the Patriots offense like there is for the Rams. by /zn/ 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 6942 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be?/ Mike Sando QB Tiers POST #363 Last edited by /zn/ on Jul 28 2019, edited 1 time in total. PARAM wrote:It was the last 6 games of the season (including postseason) for those 3 QBs. Some folks cherry picked the last 8 games.....why not the last 10? 12? I cherry picked the last 6 games.I did 8 games because with Goff the streak of below avg. games begins with Detroit. You can't cherry pick if you are doing "inconsistent." By definition "inconsistent" means it's good and below avg. games combined. Cherry picking means leaving things out. You can't say "inconsistent" and leave something out, by definition that's impossible.The reality is, he had a streak starting with the Lions where 5 of 8 games are below avg. There's 2 good games in the middle of that and one exceptional one where Goff came through on the road in a tough environment to help win a conference championship. So it's good + below avg = inconsistent. That really happened and so I say, start with that. Why that inconsistent patch happened is an interesting question. How much of that is on Goff is an interesting question (and I have ideas about that, if the discussion ever actually gets to that point.) Whether it's an effect of being a third year qb (and the history of other qbs says it is) is an interesting question. Lots of interesting questions. But it's not a question that it happened. .... by moklerman 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be?/ Mike Sando QB Tiers POST #364 dieterbrock wrote:Classic. You are completely incapable of reading. I exclude NOTHING. I don’t even know why I bother with you. Here’s what I did exclude, Goff is 100x better than your crush Sam Bradford. So you can keep playing your trolling game, but I’m done with you. Reply 37 / 37 1 37 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 364 posts Jul 09 2025
by /zn/ 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 6942 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be?/ Mike Sando QB Tiers POST #363 Last edited by /zn/ on Jul 28 2019, edited 1 time in total. PARAM wrote:It was the last 6 games of the season (including postseason) for those 3 QBs. Some folks cherry picked the last 8 games.....why not the last 10? 12? I cherry picked the last 6 games.I did 8 games because with Goff the streak of below avg. games begins with Detroit. You can't cherry pick if you are doing "inconsistent." By definition "inconsistent" means it's good and below avg. games combined. Cherry picking means leaving things out. You can't say "inconsistent" and leave something out, by definition that's impossible.The reality is, he had a streak starting with the Lions where 5 of 8 games are below avg. There's 2 good games in the middle of that and one exceptional one where Goff came through on the road in a tough environment to help win a conference championship. So it's good + below avg = inconsistent. That really happened and so I say, start with that. Why that inconsistent patch happened is an interesting question. How much of that is on Goff is an interesting question (and I have ideas about that, if the discussion ever actually gets to that point.) Whether it's an effect of being a third year qb (and the history of other qbs says it is) is an interesting question. Lots of interesting questions. But it's not a question that it happened. .... by moklerman 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be?/ Mike Sando QB Tiers POST #364 dieterbrock wrote:Classic. You are completely incapable of reading. I exclude NOTHING. I don’t even know why I bother with you. Here’s what I did exclude, Goff is 100x better than your crush Sam Bradford. So you can keep playing your trolling game, but I’m done with you. Reply 37 / 37 1 37 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 364 posts Jul 09 2025
by moklerman 5 years 11 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame if you could swap goff for any qb, right now, who would it be?/ Mike Sando QB Tiers POST #364 dieterbrock wrote:Classic. You are completely incapable of reading. I exclude NOTHING. I don’t even know why I bother with you. Here’s what I did exclude, Goff is 100x better than your crush Sam Bradford. So you can keep playing your trolling game, but I’m done with you. Reply 37 / 37 1 37 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business