by aeneas1 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #31 /zn/ wrote:For example, according to teamrankings.com stats, in the last 3 games the Rams third down conversion percentage is 45.7%... Ranking 6th at 3rd round conversions is the best the Rams have done since 2003 when they also ranked 6th (they were 7th in 2004).ummm.... ranking 6th over 3 games is a tad different than ranking 6th over the course of a season, you see that don't you? /zn/ wrote:Everything good Keenum does is a reminder that Goff is in good hands.yeah, when fish and the rams brain trust couldn't get the first overall pick ready to start game 1, and then got skunked on national tv as last year's qb rolled to a 34.2 qb rating, i said to myself "now here's a group of guys that know qbs, that know how to get these guys ready to play, goff is in good hands..."... in other news, the rams offense sucks, a good game or two against the dreg of the league means nothing, just as 3rd down conversions over the course of 3 games means nothing, just as a 3-1 start means nothing... wake me up when the rams don't finish the season ranked near the bottom of the league in just about every meaningful offensive category... by dieterbrock 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #32 max wrote:Keenum is a small time player. Your team will never be good as long as he is starting. Heaping accolades on a backup QB is like getting excited about hamburger helper. No thanks.Man, you are on fire these days.I love that analogyIt's awesome to have a great back up QB, when he is in fact, backing up the starter. by max 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #33 dieterbrock wrote:Man, you are on fire these days.I love that analogyIt's awesome to have a great back up QB, when he is in fact, backing up the starter.Probably because I'm obsessed with this thing now, much the same way I was with the Rams move to LA. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Hacksaw 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Keenum had a great game but... POST #34 My biggest concerns with CK is his timing and velocity. His vision is a bit questionable too. I've see too many WR's - RB's streaking free hands a waivin' but the ball never comes. Or when it does, their is still ice on it from it's elevation during flight. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by dieterbrock 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #35 max wrote:Probably because I'm obsessed with this thing now, much the same way I was with the Rams move to LA.Well I was with you then, and am with you now...I just want Goff in so the future can begin alreadySure would have been fun to see him have a shot against that pathetic Detroit secondary by /zn/ 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 6940 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #36 Last edited by /zn/ on Oct 19 2016, edited 1 time in total. aeneas1 wrote:ummm.... ranking 6th over 3 games is a tad different than ranking 6th over the course of a season, you see that don't you? It's funny when someone tries to correct you when they are the one in error through misreading. No one said 3 games = 16 games. BUT to give some perspective on the improvement, it is useful to see where that would stand IF it WERE 16 games. That's just a snapshot of the moment. It is understood that from this point things can change...because again, no one said they WERE equivalent. In order for them to be equivalent, Rams would have to keep it up. That's a given. It goes without saying. So your complaint is just you reading something in that was not there. But actually the site does allow you to compare the Rams last 3 games to the last 3 games of every other team.Assuming, of course, that the improvement is real and lasts, this is how the Rams rank on offensive 3rd down conversions across the last 3 games, compared to all other NFL teams across the last 3 games. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/t ... ersion-pctOn that metric, Rams rank 6th. Again, though I didn't at first think this needed to be spelled out, I will nevertheless dedicate keyboard time to the obvious and spell it out. That's just a snapshot of the moment. It is understood that from this point things can change. In order for them to be ranked that high for the season, Rams will have to keep it up. That's a given. Normally it even goes without saying. .. by moklerman 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #37 dieterbrock liked this post dieterbrock wrote:Well I was with you then, and am with you now...I just want Goff in so the future can begin alreadySure would have been fun to see him have a shot against that pathetic Detroit secondaryThat's really the aggravating part of this. I mean, is there an end game where Keenum shows himself to be so good that he not only remains the starter but the Rams give him a starter's contract at the end of the year?I just don't see how that happens and because of that, I don't see any point in continuing to start Keenum. The Rams aren't going to get anything for him because he's on the last year of his contract and I find it hard to imagine they're going to give him a new contract. I could see a purpose if they were trying to showcase Keenum to inflate his trade value but all of this just seems pointless. At 3-3, the team is basically where they likely would have been with Goff starting. Except now, Goff doesn't have those 6 games of experience under his belt. 1 by aeneas1 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #38 /zn/ wrote:It's funny when someone tries to correct you when they are the one in error through misreading. -------------"zn: For example, according to teamrankings.com stats, in the last 3 games the Rams third down conversion percentage is 45.7%...which would be ranked 6th in the league... Ranking 6th at 3rd round conversions is the best the Rams have done since 2003 when they also ranked 6th (they were 7th in 2004)."--------------clearly i misread.... dieterbrock wrote:Well I was with you then, and am with you now...I just want Goff in so the future can begin alreadySure would have been fun to see him have a shot against that pathetic Detroit secondary.what a concept. then again, case can lead the rams to the postseason, can goff? by dieterbrock 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #39 moklerman wrote:That's really the aggravating part of this. I mean, is there an end game where Keenum shows himself to be so good that he not only remains the starter but the Rams give him a starter's contract at the end of the year?I just don't see how that happens and because of that, I don't see any point in continuing to start Keenum. The Rams aren't going to get anything for him because he's on the last year of his contract and I find it hard to imagine they're going to give him a new contract. I could see a purpose if they were trying to showcase Keenum to inflate his trade value but all of this just seems pointless. At 3-3, the team is basically where they likely would have been with Goff starting. Except now, Goff doesn't have those 6 games of experience under his belt.Exactly how I feel. The conundrum should be whether or not Mannion can play good enough to NOT re-sign Keenum.which of course the Rams shot themselves in the foot there too if they do like Keenum enough to retain him, as he's played well enough to get some team to bite on giving him a shot on a UFA dealYes, Keenum played outstanding on Sunday, but his role was that he gave the Rams a better chance to win. And they aren't winning. So what now? Why does playing Goff equate to giving up on the season? by max 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #40 aeneas1 liked this post Hey a1,I swear I read some posts and it's like looking at a Magritte... ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers 1 Reply 4 / 5 1 4 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 47 posts Jul 04 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by dieterbrock 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #32 max wrote:Keenum is a small time player. Your team will never be good as long as he is starting. Heaping accolades on a backup QB is like getting excited about hamburger helper. No thanks.Man, you are on fire these days.I love that analogyIt's awesome to have a great back up QB, when he is in fact, backing up the starter. by max 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #33 dieterbrock wrote:Man, you are on fire these days.I love that analogyIt's awesome to have a great back up QB, when he is in fact, backing up the starter.Probably because I'm obsessed with this thing now, much the same way I was with the Rams move to LA. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Hacksaw 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Keenum had a great game but... POST #34 My biggest concerns with CK is his timing and velocity. His vision is a bit questionable too. I've see too many WR's - RB's streaking free hands a waivin' but the ball never comes. Or when it does, their is still ice on it from it's elevation during flight. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by dieterbrock 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #35 max wrote:Probably because I'm obsessed with this thing now, much the same way I was with the Rams move to LA.Well I was with you then, and am with you now...I just want Goff in so the future can begin alreadySure would have been fun to see him have a shot against that pathetic Detroit secondary by /zn/ 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 6940 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #36 Last edited by /zn/ on Oct 19 2016, edited 1 time in total. aeneas1 wrote:ummm.... ranking 6th over 3 games is a tad different than ranking 6th over the course of a season, you see that don't you? It's funny when someone tries to correct you when they are the one in error through misreading. No one said 3 games = 16 games. BUT to give some perspective on the improvement, it is useful to see where that would stand IF it WERE 16 games. That's just a snapshot of the moment. It is understood that from this point things can change...because again, no one said they WERE equivalent. In order for them to be equivalent, Rams would have to keep it up. That's a given. It goes without saying. So your complaint is just you reading something in that was not there. But actually the site does allow you to compare the Rams last 3 games to the last 3 games of every other team.Assuming, of course, that the improvement is real and lasts, this is how the Rams rank on offensive 3rd down conversions across the last 3 games, compared to all other NFL teams across the last 3 games. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/t ... ersion-pctOn that metric, Rams rank 6th. Again, though I didn't at first think this needed to be spelled out, I will nevertheless dedicate keyboard time to the obvious and spell it out. That's just a snapshot of the moment. It is understood that from this point things can change. In order for them to be ranked that high for the season, Rams will have to keep it up. That's a given. Normally it even goes without saying. .. by moklerman 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #37 dieterbrock liked this post dieterbrock wrote:Well I was with you then, and am with you now...I just want Goff in so the future can begin alreadySure would have been fun to see him have a shot against that pathetic Detroit secondaryThat's really the aggravating part of this. I mean, is there an end game where Keenum shows himself to be so good that he not only remains the starter but the Rams give him a starter's contract at the end of the year?I just don't see how that happens and because of that, I don't see any point in continuing to start Keenum. The Rams aren't going to get anything for him because he's on the last year of his contract and I find it hard to imagine they're going to give him a new contract. I could see a purpose if they were trying to showcase Keenum to inflate his trade value but all of this just seems pointless. At 3-3, the team is basically where they likely would have been with Goff starting. Except now, Goff doesn't have those 6 games of experience under his belt. 1 by aeneas1 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #38 /zn/ wrote:It's funny when someone tries to correct you when they are the one in error through misreading. -------------"zn: For example, according to teamrankings.com stats, in the last 3 games the Rams third down conversion percentage is 45.7%...which would be ranked 6th in the league... Ranking 6th at 3rd round conversions is the best the Rams have done since 2003 when they also ranked 6th (they were 7th in 2004)."--------------clearly i misread.... dieterbrock wrote:Well I was with you then, and am with you now...I just want Goff in so the future can begin alreadySure would have been fun to see him have a shot against that pathetic Detroit secondary.what a concept. then again, case can lead the rams to the postseason, can goff? by dieterbrock 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #39 moklerman wrote:That's really the aggravating part of this. I mean, is there an end game where Keenum shows himself to be so good that he not only remains the starter but the Rams give him a starter's contract at the end of the year?I just don't see how that happens and because of that, I don't see any point in continuing to start Keenum. The Rams aren't going to get anything for him because he's on the last year of his contract and I find it hard to imagine they're going to give him a new contract. I could see a purpose if they were trying to showcase Keenum to inflate his trade value but all of this just seems pointless. At 3-3, the team is basically where they likely would have been with Goff starting. Except now, Goff doesn't have those 6 games of experience under his belt.Exactly how I feel. The conundrum should be whether or not Mannion can play good enough to NOT re-sign Keenum.which of course the Rams shot themselves in the foot there too if they do like Keenum enough to retain him, as he's played well enough to get some team to bite on giving him a shot on a UFA dealYes, Keenum played outstanding on Sunday, but his role was that he gave the Rams a better chance to win. And they aren't winning. So what now? Why does playing Goff equate to giving up on the season? by max 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #40 aeneas1 liked this post Hey a1,I swear I read some posts and it's like looking at a Magritte... ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers 1 Reply 4 / 5 1 4 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 47 posts Jul 04 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by max 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #33 dieterbrock wrote:Man, you are on fire these days.I love that analogyIt's awesome to have a great back up QB, when he is in fact, backing up the starter.Probably because I'm obsessed with this thing now, much the same way I was with the Rams move to LA. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Hacksaw 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Keenum had a great game but... POST #34 My biggest concerns with CK is his timing and velocity. His vision is a bit questionable too. I've see too many WR's - RB's streaking free hands a waivin' but the ball never comes. Or when it does, their is still ice on it from it's elevation during flight. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by dieterbrock 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #35 max wrote:Probably because I'm obsessed with this thing now, much the same way I was with the Rams move to LA.Well I was with you then, and am with you now...I just want Goff in so the future can begin alreadySure would have been fun to see him have a shot against that pathetic Detroit secondary by /zn/ 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 6940 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #36 Last edited by /zn/ on Oct 19 2016, edited 1 time in total. aeneas1 wrote:ummm.... ranking 6th over 3 games is a tad different than ranking 6th over the course of a season, you see that don't you? It's funny when someone tries to correct you when they are the one in error through misreading. No one said 3 games = 16 games. BUT to give some perspective on the improvement, it is useful to see where that would stand IF it WERE 16 games. That's just a snapshot of the moment. It is understood that from this point things can change...because again, no one said they WERE equivalent. In order for them to be equivalent, Rams would have to keep it up. That's a given. It goes without saying. So your complaint is just you reading something in that was not there. But actually the site does allow you to compare the Rams last 3 games to the last 3 games of every other team.Assuming, of course, that the improvement is real and lasts, this is how the Rams rank on offensive 3rd down conversions across the last 3 games, compared to all other NFL teams across the last 3 games. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/t ... ersion-pctOn that metric, Rams rank 6th. Again, though I didn't at first think this needed to be spelled out, I will nevertheless dedicate keyboard time to the obvious and spell it out. That's just a snapshot of the moment. It is understood that from this point things can change. In order for them to be ranked that high for the season, Rams will have to keep it up. That's a given. Normally it even goes without saying. .. by moklerman 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #37 dieterbrock liked this post dieterbrock wrote:Well I was with you then, and am with you now...I just want Goff in so the future can begin alreadySure would have been fun to see him have a shot against that pathetic Detroit secondaryThat's really the aggravating part of this. I mean, is there an end game where Keenum shows himself to be so good that he not only remains the starter but the Rams give him a starter's contract at the end of the year?I just don't see how that happens and because of that, I don't see any point in continuing to start Keenum. The Rams aren't going to get anything for him because he's on the last year of his contract and I find it hard to imagine they're going to give him a new contract. I could see a purpose if they were trying to showcase Keenum to inflate his trade value but all of this just seems pointless. At 3-3, the team is basically where they likely would have been with Goff starting. Except now, Goff doesn't have those 6 games of experience under his belt. 1 by aeneas1 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #38 /zn/ wrote:It's funny when someone tries to correct you when they are the one in error through misreading. -------------"zn: For example, according to teamrankings.com stats, in the last 3 games the Rams third down conversion percentage is 45.7%...which would be ranked 6th in the league... Ranking 6th at 3rd round conversions is the best the Rams have done since 2003 when they also ranked 6th (they were 7th in 2004)."--------------clearly i misread.... dieterbrock wrote:Well I was with you then, and am with you now...I just want Goff in so the future can begin alreadySure would have been fun to see him have a shot against that pathetic Detroit secondary.what a concept. then again, case can lead the rams to the postseason, can goff? by dieterbrock 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #39 moklerman wrote:That's really the aggravating part of this. I mean, is there an end game where Keenum shows himself to be so good that he not only remains the starter but the Rams give him a starter's contract at the end of the year?I just don't see how that happens and because of that, I don't see any point in continuing to start Keenum. The Rams aren't going to get anything for him because he's on the last year of his contract and I find it hard to imagine they're going to give him a new contract. I could see a purpose if they were trying to showcase Keenum to inflate his trade value but all of this just seems pointless. At 3-3, the team is basically where they likely would have been with Goff starting. Except now, Goff doesn't have those 6 games of experience under his belt.Exactly how I feel. The conundrum should be whether or not Mannion can play good enough to NOT re-sign Keenum.which of course the Rams shot themselves in the foot there too if they do like Keenum enough to retain him, as he's played well enough to get some team to bite on giving him a shot on a UFA dealYes, Keenum played outstanding on Sunday, but his role was that he gave the Rams a better chance to win. And they aren't winning. So what now? Why does playing Goff equate to giving up on the season? by max 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #40 aeneas1 liked this post Hey a1,I swear I read some posts and it's like looking at a Magritte... ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers 1 Reply 4 / 5 1 4 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 47 posts Jul 04 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Hacksaw 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Keenum had a great game but... POST #34 My biggest concerns with CK is his timing and velocity. His vision is a bit questionable too. I've see too many WR's - RB's streaking free hands a waivin' but the ball never comes. Or when it does, their is still ice on it from it's elevation during flight. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by dieterbrock 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #35 max wrote:Probably because I'm obsessed with this thing now, much the same way I was with the Rams move to LA.Well I was with you then, and am with you now...I just want Goff in so the future can begin alreadySure would have been fun to see him have a shot against that pathetic Detroit secondary by /zn/ 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 6940 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #36 Last edited by /zn/ on Oct 19 2016, edited 1 time in total. aeneas1 wrote:ummm.... ranking 6th over 3 games is a tad different than ranking 6th over the course of a season, you see that don't you? It's funny when someone tries to correct you when they are the one in error through misreading. No one said 3 games = 16 games. BUT to give some perspective on the improvement, it is useful to see where that would stand IF it WERE 16 games. That's just a snapshot of the moment. It is understood that from this point things can change...because again, no one said they WERE equivalent. In order for them to be equivalent, Rams would have to keep it up. That's a given. It goes without saying. So your complaint is just you reading something in that was not there. But actually the site does allow you to compare the Rams last 3 games to the last 3 games of every other team.Assuming, of course, that the improvement is real and lasts, this is how the Rams rank on offensive 3rd down conversions across the last 3 games, compared to all other NFL teams across the last 3 games. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/t ... ersion-pctOn that metric, Rams rank 6th. Again, though I didn't at first think this needed to be spelled out, I will nevertheless dedicate keyboard time to the obvious and spell it out. That's just a snapshot of the moment. It is understood that from this point things can change. In order for them to be ranked that high for the season, Rams will have to keep it up. That's a given. Normally it even goes without saying. .. by moklerman 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #37 dieterbrock liked this post dieterbrock wrote:Well I was with you then, and am with you now...I just want Goff in so the future can begin alreadySure would have been fun to see him have a shot against that pathetic Detroit secondaryThat's really the aggravating part of this. I mean, is there an end game where Keenum shows himself to be so good that he not only remains the starter but the Rams give him a starter's contract at the end of the year?I just don't see how that happens and because of that, I don't see any point in continuing to start Keenum. The Rams aren't going to get anything for him because he's on the last year of his contract and I find it hard to imagine they're going to give him a new contract. I could see a purpose if they were trying to showcase Keenum to inflate his trade value but all of this just seems pointless. At 3-3, the team is basically where they likely would have been with Goff starting. Except now, Goff doesn't have those 6 games of experience under his belt. 1 by aeneas1 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #38 /zn/ wrote:It's funny when someone tries to correct you when they are the one in error through misreading. -------------"zn: For example, according to teamrankings.com stats, in the last 3 games the Rams third down conversion percentage is 45.7%...which would be ranked 6th in the league... Ranking 6th at 3rd round conversions is the best the Rams have done since 2003 when they also ranked 6th (they were 7th in 2004)."--------------clearly i misread.... dieterbrock wrote:Well I was with you then, and am with you now...I just want Goff in so the future can begin alreadySure would have been fun to see him have a shot against that pathetic Detroit secondary.what a concept. then again, case can lead the rams to the postseason, can goff? by dieterbrock 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #39 moklerman wrote:That's really the aggravating part of this. I mean, is there an end game where Keenum shows himself to be so good that he not only remains the starter but the Rams give him a starter's contract at the end of the year?I just don't see how that happens and because of that, I don't see any point in continuing to start Keenum. The Rams aren't going to get anything for him because he's on the last year of his contract and I find it hard to imagine they're going to give him a new contract. I could see a purpose if they were trying to showcase Keenum to inflate his trade value but all of this just seems pointless. At 3-3, the team is basically where they likely would have been with Goff starting. Except now, Goff doesn't have those 6 games of experience under his belt.Exactly how I feel. The conundrum should be whether or not Mannion can play good enough to NOT re-sign Keenum.which of course the Rams shot themselves in the foot there too if they do like Keenum enough to retain him, as he's played well enough to get some team to bite on giving him a shot on a UFA dealYes, Keenum played outstanding on Sunday, but his role was that he gave the Rams a better chance to win. And they aren't winning. So what now? Why does playing Goff equate to giving up on the season? by max 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #40 aeneas1 liked this post Hey a1,I swear I read some posts and it's like looking at a Magritte... ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers 1 Reply 4 / 5 1 4 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 47 posts Jul 04 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by dieterbrock 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #35 max wrote:Probably because I'm obsessed with this thing now, much the same way I was with the Rams move to LA.Well I was with you then, and am with you now...I just want Goff in so the future can begin alreadySure would have been fun to see him have a shot against that pathetic Detroit secondary by /zn/ 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 6940 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #36 Last edited by /zn/ on Oct 19 2016, edited 1 time in total. aeneas1 wrote:ummm.... ranking 6th over 3 games is a tad different than ranking 6th over the course of a season, you see that don't you? It's funny when someone tries to correct you when they are the one in error through misreading. No one said 3 games = 16 games. BUT to give some perspective on the improvement, it is useful to see where that would stand IF it WERE 16 games. That's just a snapshot of the moment. It is understood that from this point things can change...because again, no one said they WERE equivalent. In order for them to be equivalent, Rams would have to keep it up. That's a given. It goes without saying. So your complaint is just you reading something in that was not there. But actually the site does allow you to compare the Rams last 3 games to the last 3 games of every other team.Assuming, of course, that the improvement is real and lasts, this is how the Rams rank on offensive 3rd down conversions across the last 3 games, compared to all other NFL teams across the last 3 games. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/t ... ersion-pctOn that metric, Rams rank 6th. Again, though I didn't at first think this needed to be spelled out, I will nevertheless dedicate keyboard time to the obvious and spell it out. That's just a snapshot of the moment. It is understood that from this point things can change. In order for them to be ranked that high for the season, Rams will have to keep it up. That's a given. Normally it even goes without saying. .. by moklerman 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #37 dieterbrock liked this post dieterbrock wrote:Well I was with you then, and am with you now...I just want Goff in so the future can begin alreadySure would have been fun to see him have a shot against that pathetic Detroit secondaryThat's really the aggravating part of this. I mean, is there an end game where Keenum shows himself to be so good that he not only remains the starter but the Rams give him a starter's contract at the end of the year?I just don't see how that happens and because of that, I don't see any point in continuing to start Keenum. The Rams aren't going to get anything for him because he's on the last year of his contract and I find it hard to imagine they're going to give him a new contract. I could see a purpose if they were trying to showcase Keenum to inflate his trade value but all of this just seems pointless. At 3-3, the team is basically where they likely would have been with Goff starting. Except now, Goff doesn't have those 6 games of experience under his belt. 1 by aeneas1 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #38 /zn/ wrote:It's funny when someone tries to correct you when they are the one in error through misreading. -------------"zn: For example, according to teamrankings.com stats, in the last 3 games the Rams third down conversion percentage is 45.7%...which would be ranked 6th in the league... Ranking 6th at 3rd round conversions is the best the Rams have done since 2003 when they also ranked 6th (they were 7th in 2004)."--------------clearly i misread.... dieterbrock wrote:Well I was with you then, and am with you now...I just want Goff in so the future can begin alreadySure would have been fun to see him have a shot against that pathetic Detroit secondary.what a concept. then again, case can lead the rams to the postseason, can goff? by dieterbrock 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #39 moklerman wrote:That's really the aggravating part of this. I mean, is there an end game where Keenum shows himself to be so good that he not only remains the starter but the Rams give him a starter's contract at the end of the year?I just don't see how that happens and because of that, I don't see any point in continuing to start Keenum. The Rams aren't going to get anything for him because he's on the last year of his contract and I find it hard to imagine they're going to give him a new contract. I could see a purpose if they were trying to showcase Keenum to inflate his trade value but all of this just seems pointless. At 3-3, the team is basically where they likely would have been with Goff starting. Except now, Goff doesn't have those 6 games of experience under his belt.Exactly how I feel. The conundrum should be whether or not Mannion can play good enough to NOT re-sign Keenum.which of course the Rams shot themselves in the foot there too if they do like Keenum enough to retain him, as he's played well enough to get some team to bite on giving him a shot on a UFA dealYes, Keenum played outstanding on Sunday, but his role was that he gave the Rams a better chance to win. And they aren't winning. So what now? Why does playing Goff equate to giving up on the season? by max 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #40 aeneas1 liked this post Hey a1,I swear I read some posts and it's like looking at a Magritte... ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers 1 Reply 4 / 5 1 4 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 47 posts Jul 04 2025
by /zn/ 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 6940 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #36 Last edited by /zn/ on Oct 19 2016, edited 1 time in total. aeneas1 wrote:ummm.... ranking 6th over 3 games is a tad different than ranking 6th over the course of a season, you see that don't you? It's funny when someone tries to correct you when they are the one in error through misreading. No one said 3 games = 16 games. BUT to give some perspective on the improvement, it is useful to see where that would stand IF it WERE 16 games. That's just a snapshot of the moment. It is understood that from this point things can change...because again, no one said they WERE equivalent. In order for them to be equivalent, Rams would have to keep it up. That's a given. It goes without saying. So your complaint is just you reading something in that was not there. But actually the site does allow you to compare the Rams last 3 games to the last 3 games of every other team.Assuming, of course, that the improvement is real and lasts, this is how the Rams rank on offensive 3rd down conversions across the last 3 games, compared to all other NFL teams across the last 3 games. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/t ... ersion-pctOn that metric, Rams rank 6th. Again, though I didn't at first think this needed to be spelled out, I will nevertheless dedicate keyboard time to the obvious and spell it out. That's just a snapshot of the moment. It is understood that from this point things can change. In order for them to be ranked that high for the season, Rams will have to keep it up. That's a given. Normally it even goes without saying. .. by moklerman 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #37 dieterbrock liked this post dieterbrock wrote:Well I was with you then, and am with you now...I just want Goff in so the future can begin alreadySure would have been fun to see him have a shot against that pathetic Detroit secondaryThat's really the aggravating part of this. I mean, is there an end game where Keenum shows himself to be so good that he not only remains the starter but the Rams give him a starter's contract at the end of the year?I just don't see how that happens and because of that, I don't see any point in continuing to start Keenum. The Rams aren't going to get anything for him because he's on the last year of his contract and I find it hard to imagine they're going to give him a new contract. I could see a purpose if they were trying to showcase Keenum to inflate his trade value but all of this just seems pointless. At 3-3, the team is basically where they likely would have been with Goff starting. Except now, Goff doesn't have those 6 games of experience under his belt. 1 by aeneas1 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #38 /zn/ wrote:It's funny when someone tries to correct you when they are the one in error through misreading. -------------"zn: For example, according to teamrankings.com stats, in the last 3 games the Rams third down conversion percentage is 45.7%...which would be ranked 6th in the league... Ranking 6th at 3rd round conversions is the best the Rams have done since 2003 when they also ranked 6th (they were 7th in 2004)."--------------clearly i misread.... dieterbrock wrote:Well I was with you then, and am with you now...I just want Goff in so the future can begin alreadySure would have been fun to see him have a shot against that pathetic Detroit secondary.what a concept. then again, case can lead the rams to the postseason, can goff? by dieterbrock 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #39 moklerman wrote:That's really the aggravating part of this. I mean, is there an end game where Keenum shows himself to be so good that he not only remains the starter but the Rams give him a starter's contract at the end of the year?I just don't see how that happens and because of that, I don't see any point in continuing to start Keenum. The Rams aren't going to get anything for him because he's on the last year of his contract and I find it hard to imagine they're going to give him a new contract. I could see a purpose if they were trying to showcase Keenum to inflate his trade value but all of this just seems pointless. At 3-3, the team is basically where they likely would have been with Goff starting. Except now, Goff doesn't have those 6 games of experience under his belt.Exactly how I feel. The conundrum should be whether or not Mannion can play good enough to NOT re-sign Keenum.which of course the Rams shot themselves in the foot there too if they do like Keenum enough to retain him, as he's played well enough to get some team to bite on giving him a shot on a UFA dealYes, Keenum played outstanding on Sunday, but his role was that he gave the Rams a better chance to win. And they aren't winning. So what now? Why does playing Goff equate to giving up on the season? by max 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #40 aeneas1 liked this post Hey a1,I swear I read some posts and it's like looking at a Magritte... ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers 1 Reply 4 / 5 1 4 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 47 posts Jul 04 2025
by moklerman 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #37 dieterbrock liked this post dieterbrock wrote:Well I was with you then, and am with you now...I just want Goff in so the future can begin alreadySure would have been fun to see him have a shot against that pathetic Detroit secondaryThat's really the aggravating part of this. I mean, is there an end game where Keenum shows himself to be so good that he not only remains the starter but the Rams give him a starter's contract at the end of the year?I just don't see how that happens and because of that, I don't see any point in continuing to start Keenum. The Rams aren't going to get anything for him because he's on the last year of his contract and I find it hard to imagine they're going to give him a new contract. I could see a purpose if they were trying to showcase Keenum to inflate his trade value but all of this just seems pointless. At 3-3, the team is basically where they likely would have been with Goff starting. Except now, Goff doesn't have those 6 games of experience under his belt. 1 by aeneas1 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #38 /zn/ wrote:It's funny when someone tries to correct you when they are the one in error through misreading. -------------"zn: For example, according to teamrankings.com stats, in the last 3 games the Rams third down conversion percentage is 45.7%...which would be ranked 6th in the league... Ranking 6th at 3rd round conversions is the best the Rams have done since 2003 when they also ranked 6th (they were 7th in 2004)."--------------clearly i misread.... dieterbrock wrote:Well I was with you then, and am with you now...I just want Goff in so the future can begin alreadySure would have been fun to see him have a shot against that pathetic Detroit secondary.what a concept. then again, case can lead the rams to the postseason, can goff? by dieterbrock 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #39 moklerman wrote:That's really the aggravating part of this. I mean, is there an end game where Keenum shows himself to be so good that he not only remains the starter but the Rams give him a starter's contract at the end of the year?I just don't see how that happens and because of that, I don't see any point in continuing to start Keenum. The Rams aren't going to get anything for him because he's on the last year of his contract and I find it hard to imagine they're going to give him a new contract. I could see a purpose if they were trying to showcase Keenum to inflate his trade value but all of this just seems pointless. At 3-3, the team is basically where they likely would have been with Goff starting. Except now, Goff doesn't have those 6 games of experience under his belt.Exactly how I feel. The conundrum should be whether or not Mannion can play good enough to NOT re-sign Keenum.which of course the Rams shot themselves in the foot there too if they do like Keenum enough to retain him, as he's played well enough to get some team to bite on giving him a shot on a UFA dealYes, Keenum played outstanding on Sunday, but his role was that he gave the Rams a better chance to win. And they aren't winning. So what now? Why does playing Goff equate to giving up on the season? by max 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #40 aeneas1 liked this post Hey a1,I swear I read some posts and it's like looking at a Magritte... ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers 1 Reply 4 / 5 1 4 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 47 posts Jul 04 2025
by aeneas1 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #38 /zn/ wrote:It's funny when someone tries to correct you when they are the one in error through misreading. -------------"zn: For example, according to teamrankings.com stats, in the last 3 games the Rams third down conversion percentage is 45.7%...which would be ranked 6th in the league... Ranking 6th at 3rd round conversions is the best the Rams have done since 2003 when they also ranked 6th (they were 7th in 2004)."--------------clearly i misread.... dieterbrock wrote:Well I was with you then, and am with you now...I just want Goff in so the future can begin alreadySure would have been fun to see him have a shot against that pathetic Detroit secondary.what a concept. then again, case can lead the rams to the postseason, can goff? by dieterbrock 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #39 moklerman wrote:That's really the aggravating part of this. I mean, is there an end game where Keenum shows himself to be so good that he not only remains the starter but the Rams give him a starter's contract at the end of the year?I just don't see how that happens and because of that, I don't see any point in continuing to start Keenum. The Rams aren't going to get anything for him because he's on the last year of his contract and I find it hard to imagine they're going to give him a new contract. I could see a purpose if they were trying to showcase Keenum to inflate his trade value but all of this just seems pointless. At 3-3, the team is basically where they likely would have been with Goff starting. Except now, Goff doesn't have those 6 games of experience under his belt.Exactly how I feel. The conundrum should be whether or not Mannion can play good enough to NOT re-sign Keenum.which of course the Rams shot themselves in the foot there too if they do like Keenum enough to retain him, as he's played well enough to get some team to bite on giving him a shot on a UFA dealYes, Keenum played outstanding on Sunday, but his role was that he gave the Rams a better chance to win. And they aren't winning. So what now? Why does playing Goff equate to giving up on the season? by max 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #40 aeneas1 liked this post Hey a1,I swear I read some posts and it's like looking at a Magritte... ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers 1 Reply 4 / 5 1 4 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 47 posts Jul 04 2025
by dieterbrock 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #39 moklerman wrote:That's really the aggravating part of this. I mean, is there an end game where Keenum shows himself to be so good that he not only remains the starter but the Rams give him a starter's contract at the end of the year?I just don't see how that happens and because of that, I don't see any point in continuing to start Keenum. The Rams aren't going to get anything for him because he's on the last year of his contract and I find it hard to imagine they're going to give him a new contract. I could see a purpose if they were trying to showcase Keenum to inflate his trade value but all of this just seems pointless. At 3-3, the team is basically where they likely would have been with Goff starting. Except now, Goff doesn't have those 6 games of experience under his belt.Exactly how I feel. The conundrum should be whether or not Mannion can play good enough to NOT re-sign Keenum.which of course the Rams shot themselves in the foot there too if they do like Keenum enough to retain him, as he's played well enough to get some team to bite on giving him a shot on a UFA dealYes, Keenum played outstanding on Sunday, but his role was that he gave the Rams a better chance to win. And they aren't winning. So what now? Why does playing Goff equate to giving up on the season? by max 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #40 aeneas1 liked this post Hey a1,I swear I read some posts and it's like looking at a Magritte... ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers 1 Reply 4 / 5 1 4 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 47 posts Jul 04 2025
by max 8 years 8 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Keenum had a great game but... POST #40 aeneas1 liked this post Hey a1,I swear I read some posts and it's like looking at a Magritte... ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers 1 Reply 4 / 5 1 4 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business