by SoCalRam78 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Howard Balzar... POST #31 BuiltRamTough wrote:Fred with his own mouth has said numerous times that when they talk NFL and relocation the ratings spike up high. He said NFL is king. In a related story I only listen to Fred when he talks relocation. As soon as he starts talking Lakers and Kings (which I'm a fan of both teams) I stop listening.You're exactly right. Vinny B has made a name for himself through NFL relocation, when nobody knew who the hell this guy was before. I follow LA sports pretty religiously and had never heard of him until March. Also, go look at the PD or SDUT articles and see the number of comments left on relocation articles versus generic team articles such as game results or team positional analysis. Take all these articles with a gynormous grain of salt. by Elvis 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Howard Balzar... POST #32 RFU Season Ticket Holder by Elvis 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Howard Balzar... POST #33 Is it normal for PSL money to be counted as public money? RFU Season Ticket Holder by RamsFanSince82 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 20 2015 So. Cal. Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #34 Elvis wrote:Is it normal for PSL money to be counted as public money?No, Grubman said that the NFL considers that team money. by SoCalRam78 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Howard Balzar... POST #35 Elvis wrote:Is it normal for PSL money to be counted as public money?No, because any shortfall rests on the team not the "public."I also like how they threw in the money they're already spent on themselves. Also, I see the total package has crossed the 1.1 billion dollar threshold.This deal appears worse for a team and better for the city. There's NO way SK is behind this. by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #36 Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season? by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #37 RamsFanSince82 wrote:Elvis wrote:Is it normal for PSL money to be counted as public money?No, Grubman said that the NFL considers that team money.So Stan is to pay 550 mill and give up 161 mill in PSLTotal- 711 mill for StanFor a tier 2 stadium he doesnt want.Oh and its nice to see ths sticker price is over 1.1 billion now by SoCalRam78 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Howard Balzar... POST #38 dieterbrock wrote:Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season?Absolutely by BuiltRamTough 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #39 The team is on the hook for cost overruns also.I think Jerry Richardson is pushing for STL just like SoCal said. We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #40 SoCalRam78 wrote:dieterbrock wrote:Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season?AbsolutelySo the good news for Stan is that the NFL will kick in 100 mill (Which will probably be spent in over runs) and he merely has to pay an additional 800k per year in "rent"Now I'm not the real esate mogul that Stan is, but something tells me that if you put 65% down, you probably shouldnt be paying rent... Reply 4 / 8 1 4 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Jul 11 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Elvis 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Howard Balzar... POST #32 RFU Season Ticket Holder by Elvis 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Howard Balzar... POST #33 Is it normal for PSL money to be counted as public money? RFU Season Ticket Holder by RamsFanSince82 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 20 2015 So. Cal. Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #34 Elvis wrote:Is it normal for PSL money to be counted as public money?No, Grubman said that the NFL considers that team money. by SoCalRam78 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Howard Balzar... POST #35 Elvis wrote:Is it normal for PSL money to be counted as public money?No, because any shortfall rests on the team not the "public."I also like how they threw in the money they're already spent on themselves. Also, I see the total package has crossed the 1.1 billion dollar threshold.This deal appears worse for a team and better for the city. There's NO way SK is behind this. by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #36 Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season? by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #37 RamsFanSince82 wrote:Elvis wrote:Is it normal for PSL money to be counted as public money?No, Grubman said that the NFL considers that team money.So Stan is to pay 550 mill and give up 161 mill in PSLTotal- 711 mill for StanFor a tier 2 stadium he doesnt want.Oh and its nice to see ths sticker price is over 1.1 billion now by SoCalRam78 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Howard Balzar... POST #38 dieterbrock wrote:Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season?Absolutely by BuiltRamTough 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #39 The team is on the hook for cost overruns also.I think Jerry Richardson is pushing for STL just like SoCal said. We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #40 SoCalRam78 wrote:dieterbrock wrote:Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season?AbsolutelySo the good news for Stan is that the NFL will kick in 100 mill (Which will probably be spent in over runs) and he merely has to pay an additional 800k per year in "rent"Now I'm not the real esate mogul that Stan is, but something tells me that if you put 65% down, you probably shouldnt be paying rent... Reply 4 / 8 1 4 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Jul 11 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Elvis 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Howard Balzar... POST #33 Is it normal for PSL money to be counted as public money? RFU Season Ticket Holder by RamsFanSince82 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 20 2015 So. Cal. Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #34 Elvis wrote:Is it normal for PSL money to be counted as public money?No, Grubman said that the NFL considers that team money. by SoCalRam78 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Howard Balzar... POST #35 Elvis wrote:Is it normal for PSL money to be counted as public money?No, because any shortfall rests on the team not the "public."I also like how they threw in the money they're already spent on themselves. Also, I see the total package has crossed the 1.1 billion dollar threshold.This deal appears worse for a team and better for the city. There's NO way SK is behind this. by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #36 Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season? by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #37 RamsFanSince82 wrote:Elvis wrote:Is it normal for PSL money to be counted as public money?No, Grubman said that the NFL considers that team money.So Stan is to pay 550 mill and give up 161 mill in PSLTotal- 711 mill for StanFor a tier 2 stadium he doesnt want.Oh and its nice to see ths sticker price is over 1.1 billion now by SoCalRam78 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Howard Balzar... POST #38 dieterbrock wrote:Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season?Absolutely by BuiltRamTough 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #39 The team is on the hook for cost overruns also.I think Jerry Richardson is pushing for STL just like SoCal said. We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #40 SoCalRam78 wrote:dieterbrock wrote:Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season?AbsolutelySo the good news for Stan is that the NFL will kick in 100 mill (Which will probably be spent in over runs) and he merely has to pay an additional 800k per year in "rent"Now I'm not the real esate mogul that Stan is, but something tells me that if you put 65% down, you probably shouldnt be paying rent... Reply 4 / 8 1 4 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Jul 11 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by RamsFanSince82 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 20 2015 So. Cal. Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #34 Elvis wrote:Is it normal for PSL money to be counted as public money?No, Grubman said that the NFL considers that team money. by SoCalRam78 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Howard Balzar... POST #35 Elvis wrote:Is it normal for PSL money to be counted as public money?No, because any shortfall rests on the team not the "public."I also like how they threw in the money they're already spent on themselves. Also, I see the total package has crossed the 1.1 billion dollar threshold.This deal appears worse for a team and better for the city. There's NO way SK is behind this. by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #36 Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season? by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #37 RamsFanSince82 wrote:Elvis wrote:Is it normal for PSL money to be counted as public money?No, Grubman said that the NFL considers that team money.So Stan is to pay 550 mill and give up 161 mill in PSLTotal- 711 mill for StanFor a tier 2 stadium he doesnt want.Oh and its nice to see ths sticker price is over 1.1 billion now by SoCalRam78 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Howard Balzar... POST #38 dieterbrock wrote:Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season?Absolutely by BuiltRamTough 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #39 The team is on the hook for cost overruns also.I think Jerry Richardson is pushing for STL just like SoCal said. We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #40 SoCalRam78 wrote:dieterbrock wrote:Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season?AbsolutelySo the good news for Stan is that the NFL will kick in 100 mill (Which will probably be spent in over runs) and he merely has to pay an additional 800k per year in "rent"Now I'm not the real esate mogul that Stan is, but something tells me that if you put 65% down, you probably shouldnt be paying rent... Reply 4 / 8 1 4 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Jul 11 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by SoCalRam78 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Howard Balzar... POST #35 Elvis wrote:Is it normal for PSL money to be counted as public money?No, because any shortfall rests on the team not the "public."I also like how they threw in the money they're already spent on themselves. Also, I see the total package has crossed the 1.1 billion dollar threshold.This deal appears worse for a team and better for the city. There's NO way SK is behind this. by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #36 Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season? by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #37 RamsFanSince82 wrote:Elvis wrote:Is it normal for PSL money to be counted as public money?No, Grubman said that the NFL considers that team money.So Stan is to pay 550 mill and give up 161 mill in PSLTotal- 711 mill for StanFor a tier 2 stadium he doesnt want.Oh and its nice to see ths sticker price is over 1.1 billion now by SoCalRam78 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Howard Balzar... POST #38 dieterbrock wrote:Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season?Absolutely by BuiltRamTough 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #39 The team is on the hook for cost overruns also.I think Jerry Richardson is pushing for STL just like SoCal said. We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #40 SoCalRam78 wrote:dieterbrock wrote:Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season?AbsolutelySo the good news for Stan is that the NFL will kick in 100 mill (Which will probably be spent in over runs) and he merely has to pay an additional 800k per year in "rent"Now I'm not the real esate mogul that Stan is, but something tells me that if you put 65% down, you probably shouldnt be paying rent... Reply 4 / 8 1 4 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Jul 11 2025
by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #36 Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season? by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #37 RamsFanSince82 wrote:Elvis wrote:Is it normal for PSL money to be counted as public money?No, Grubman said that the NFL considers that team money.So Stan is to pay 550 mill and give up 161 mill in PSLTotal- 711 mill for StanFor a tier 2 stadium he doesnt want.Oh and its nice to see ths sticker price is over 1.1 billion now by SoCalRam78 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Howard Balzar... POST #38 dieterbrock wrote:Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season?Absolutely by BuiltRamTough 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #39 The team is on the hook for cost overruns also.I think Jerry Richardson is pushing for STL just like SoCal said. We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #40 SoCalRam78 wrote:dieterbrock wrote:Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season?AbsolutelySo the good news for Stan is that the NFL will kick in 100 mill (Which will probably be spent in over runs) and he merely has to pay an additional 800k per year in "rent"Now I'm not the real esate mogul that Stan is, but something tells me that if you put 65% down, you probably shouldnt be paying rent... Reply 4 / 8 1 4 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Jul 11 2025
by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #37 RamsFanSince82 wrote:Elvis wrote:Is it normal for PSL money to be counted as public money?No, Grubman said that the NFL considers that team money.So Stan is to pay 550 mill and give up 161 mill in PSLTotal- 711 mill for StanFor a tier 2 stadium he doesnt want.Oh and its nice to see ths sticker price is over 1.1 billion now by SoCalRam78 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Howard Balzar... POST #38 dieterbrock wrote:Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season?Absolutely by BuiltRamTough 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #39 The team is on the hook for cost overruns also.I think Jerry Richardson is pushing for STL just like SoCal said. We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #40 SoCalRam78 wrote:dieterbrock wrote:Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season?AbsolutelySo the good news for Stan is that the NFL will kick in 100 mill (Which will probably be spent in over runs) and he merely has to pay an additional 800k per year in "rent"Now I'm not the real esate mogul that Stan is, but something tells me that if you put 65% down, you probably shouldnt be paying rent... Reply 4 / 8 1 4 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Jul 11 2025
by SoCalRam78 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 1087 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: Howard Balzar... POST #38 dieterbrock wrote:Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season?Absolutely by BuiltRamTough 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #39 The team is on the hook for cost overruns also.I think Jerry Richardson is pushing for STL just like SoCal said. We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #40 SoCalRam78 wrote:dieterbrock wrote:Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season?AbsolutelySo the good news for Stan is that the NFL will kick in 100 mill (Which will probably be spent in over runs) and he merely has to pay an additional 800k per year in "rent"Now I'm not the real esate mogul that Stan is, but something tells me that if you put 65% down, you probably shouldnt be paying rent... Reply 4 / 8 1 4 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Jul 11 2025
by BuiltRamTough 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #39 The team is on the hook for cost overruns also.I think Jerry Richardson is pushing for STL just like SoCal said. We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #40 SoCalRam78 wrote:dieterbrock wrote:Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season?AbsolutelySo the good news for Stan is that the NFL will kick in 100 mill (Which will probably be spent in over runs) and he merely has to pay an additional 800k per year in "rent"Now I'm not the real esate mogul that Stan is, but something tells me that if you put 65% down, you probably shouldnt be paying rent... Reply 4 / 8 1 4 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Jul 11 2025
by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Howard Balzar... POST #40 SoCalRam78 wrote:dieterbrock wrote:Elvis wrote:Look at Jerry Richardson trying raise Stan Kroenke's rent...Is that per season?AbsolutelySo the good news for Stan is that the NFL will kick in 100 mill (Which will probably be spent in over runs) and he merely has to pay an additional 800k per year in "rent"Now I'm not the real esate mogul that Stan is, but something tells me that if you put 65% down, you probably shouldnt be paying rent... Reply 4 / 8 1 4 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business