[dieterbrock]

Shefter said the offer is record breaking numbers. That obviously means highest paid defensive player ever.

Still not enough I guess.

When did he say that? Because his piece on espn today he said he didn't know the numbers

[Haden]

Fuck Donald and his greedy agent

[BuiltRamTough]

When did he say that? Because his piece on espn today he said he didn't know the numbers

"Record sums of money"

http://es.pn/2eOpX7f

[PARAM]

numbers for a writer are easy slight-of-hand-tricks ... high or low is only determined by where each individual sets the bar.

Numbers in today's NFL are pretty simple.
The total dollar amount of the contract is the glitz and glitter, ie, "highest paid" this or that, "top 3 paid" this or that.
The guaranteed money in the contract is the meat and potatoes.
I have to believe (and most fans should understand) few make it to the end of the deal, so those numbers in the last year or two are irrelevant.
Signing bonus money and guaranteed salary are the deal.
If these writers are looking at the total number, it might seem fair, even though the guaranteed money might not be enough.
If these writers are looking at the guaranteed money, perhaps 50-60 million or more, it would definitely be "fair".

[PARAM]

True.

But it does seem like we're starting to get some self-serving leaks from the Rams side which could mean the Rams are losing confidence in getting this thing done...

And that is not good. Might even suggest someone over valuing themselves.

[dieterbrock]

"Record sums of money"

http://es.pn/2eOpX7f

He says he doesn't know the specifics of the offers.

[BuiltRamTough]

He says he doesn't know the specifics of the offers.

I never said he did.

[azramsfan93]

Fucking troll .... If you have the numbers ... keep your trap shut or share the real numbers.

I guess that the truth undermines your position, eh?

Could it be Donald is the issue with his unreasonable expectations ? Not possible!!

[azramsfan93]

We don't; know the numbers. All Shefter is saying is that it's more than Suh, which was 19 M 2 years ago. To give an idea how contracts go up, 2 years ago Wilson got 21 M, and recently Stafford got 27 m. Contracts go up.

If it was a 19.5 M offer to AD, strictly speaking, that qualifies as "record breaking." Doesn't mean it's a fair deal 2 years after Suh.

So 2 things. First, we don;'t know the amounts BUT it is valid for the 2 sides to wrangle over how much more than Suh is fair in 2017.

Second, there are reports that the hangup is not the amount, it's the structure. So Shefter could just be wrong about the hang-up being the amount.

There is just not enough real evidence to draw any real conclusions.

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Keep gripping your narrative as it slips away....

If Allbright and Schefter were tweeting reports that supported your position you would be using it as objective evidence.

Don't try and argue you wouldn't. You will further undermine your credibility.

[azramsfan93]

True.

But it does seem like we're starting to get some self-serving leaks from the Rams side which could mean the Rams are losing confidence in getting this thing done...

Your true colors are showing.

Player is good, management is bad unless proven otherwise.

That's fine, just try not to pretend that you are objective.