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 by max
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   Sarasota, FL
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actionjack wrote:I think Alaric fits the bill of a LT. I see it this way next year...

AJ LT , Noteboom LG, Allen C, Bruss/Anchrum RG, Haves RT
Sheldon as a backup


IMO, Haves is the only proven quality starter we have on the OL.

Noteboom was never a OG, he stunk there. And he's been erratic at LT, plus he isn't durable. I don't think its smart to count on him for anything but a backup roll at best.

Allen has a bad knee, plus he's undersized and probably won't hold up physically now between his size and bad knee.

Bruss and Anchrum are maybes. We haven't seen them do much of anything in a real NFL game. A little better with AJackson. At least we get to see him the rest of the season to make a better evaluation.

Shelton may be serviceable at Center or Guard. Dunno, need to see more.

Thing is, we don't have even one guy who is close to Pro Bowl level. When McVay took over the Rams, they had Saffold and Haves, and added Whitworth and Sullivan. That was an OL with ProBowl level players.

For some reason, McVay decided he could get away with lesser talents on the OL. And that worked to a degree. IMO, there is no way we win the SB without Whitworth. He brought so much to the team on multiple levels.

 by Hacksaw
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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max wrote:For some reason, McVay decided he could get away with lesser talents on the OL. And that worked to a degree. IMO, there is no way we win the SB without Whitworth. He brought so much to the team on multiple levels.

That is my biggest issue with how the brass handeled the Oline this year. You cant remove talent like his (and to a lesser degree Corbett) and expect to compete at the same level. And dad gummit, they already had the blueprint from 2019 after Saffold and Sullivan weren't aptly replaced.
You can only scheme around that weakness for so long.

 by max
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   Sarasota, FL
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Hacksaw wrote:That is my biggest issue with how the brass handeled the Oline this year. You cant remove talent like his (and to a lesser degree Corbett) and expect to compete at the same level. And dad gummit, they already had the blueprint from 2019 after Saffold and Sullivan weren't aptly replaced.
You can only scheme around that weakness for so long.


I totally agree.

Thats why I wonder how much of this OL mess has played a roll in the Akers fiasco.

Let's face it, running behind this dumpster fire OL has got to be frustrating as heck. Does McVay expect the RBs to keep their mouthes shut and get pummeled every week?

Don't remember where, but I think I read that Akers mouthed off in a meeting about the OL sucking and that caused a problem.

Hey, I'm not defending Akers, he's looked bad regardless of the OL. But man, they stink and I wouldn't blame him for complaining. I remember Dickerson complaining in Indy when his OL stunk. He said he was getting killed and mouthed off about it. So, I see fault on both sides.

 by PARAM
2 years 8 months ago
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Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
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Hacksaw wrote:That is my biggest issue with how the brass handeled the Oline this year. You cant remove talent like his (and to a lesser degree Corbett) and expect to compete at the same level. And dad gummit, they already had the blueprint from 2019 after Saffold and Sullivan weren't aptly replaced.
You can only scheme around that weakness for so long.


It wasn't the injuries?
Allen in week 1
Anchrum in week 2
Edwards in week 3
Shelton in week 4
Edwards again in week 5
Noteboom in week 6

That's 6 injuries in 6 weeks. Every week the guys who've practiced as a unit have had a guy removed in the next game. Sometimes early in the game.

On a unit that is based on continuity, at what point this season has there been a chance of establishing that? It's almost like going with a different QB every week.

The one thing I take issue with is Evans (the #8 lineman on the depth chart). And I'd bet the only reason he's in there is Skura is the backup C, McVay doesn't want Kolone to play there and he doesn't trust Brewer to start. So it was bad planning to have Evans "that high" on the depth chart.

And is it reasonable to create a fair evaluation of the talent with that much turnover on the line?

 by safer
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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I really expected us to trade for an OG who is better than what we have. Allen, to me is an average starter at center. Most centers are right at 300lbs + a little. Few are bigger men. I like Jackson a lot (even though he got smoked by Bosa on one play last week) and Hav. But man, our play at OG is just killing our O.

 by ramsman34
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   Back in LA baby!
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It COULD end up like this after the season going into next season prior to any acquisitions:

Jax - Anchrum/Edwards - Allen/Shelton - Bruss - Hav

They need to acquire 2 Tackles and 2-3 Guards in the off-season to upgrade the competition and the starting 5. That is a lot of work and ther will be other areas where they are losing players (safety) as well as needing a major addition at edge and possible RB.

A TON of work to be done then and a lot of evaluating between now and then.

 by ramsman34
2 years 8 months ago
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Personally, I think Boom, Allen, Edwards will not be starters and some won’t be on the team in 2023.

 by Hacksaw
2 years 8 months ago
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PARAM wrote:It wasn't the injuries?
Allen in week 1
Anchrum in week 2
Edwards in week 3
Shelton in week 4
Edwards again in week 5
Noteboom in week 6

That's 6 injuries in 6 weeks.

We can't know since that never happened. Perhaps bigger better players would have held up better. It just appears they didn't bother to maintain the same level after the SB just like in 2019.

 by PARAM
2 years 8 months ago
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Hacksaw wrote:We can't know since that never happened. Perhaps bigger better players would have held up better. It just appears they didn't bother to maintain the same level after the SB just like in 2019.


"Bigger, better players"?

Last year when Whitworth was out fans were impressed with Noteboom stepping in for him. Obviously the staff was also. Likewise when Shelton stepped in for Allen (who missed a game and a half). Edwards started every game last year and Havenstein missed 2.....covid? They drafted Bruss who played 41 games, starting 25 at Wisconsin and to my knowledge, didn't miss a game to injury.

As backups they had Anchrum, drafted in 2020 and has been on the 53. They obviously felt good about him because he was the first next man up. And they had Alaric Jackson, undrafted but handled LT in 1 game last year. They also drafted Arcuri out of MSU. I have no idea why Evans was still around.

It's important that you mention 2019 as that was another season with devastating injuries. Of course not as many as 2022 and nowhere near the frequency. Next year they will probably draft another one and maybe even sign a UFA. We'll see how this year plays out and that will undoubtedly determine next year's approach.

I think the one thing that would have helped them this year, more than anything else, was a crystal ball

 by 69RamFan
2 years 8 months ago
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United States of America   LA CA by way of NY/NJ
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This is how I see it,

Yes we won the SB with Whit, Edwards Allen, Corbett, RHav,

But we mixed in a lot of smoke and mirrows plays to help the OL too.

Whit admitted in a interview that he would be willing to move into a guard position,

If the RAMs was willing to trade for Trent Williams.

So that interview alone tells me Whit knew the guard position was weak.

Then during the SB, McVay was pissed cause we couldn't run the ball,

So he stated, He's done with running the ball.

So with the OL from last season, if it wasn't that great,

Then we replace two starters with Boom and Shelton, who were backups.

So that alone just tells me, our OL got weaker from last season,

and it showed in our first game against the Bills,

our OL got destroyed with Boom, Edwards, Allen Shelton, RHav.

We need a top LT first of all,

How we get that top LT in either a trade or FA,

We need that type of LT badly.

AJax can play inside, and be our backup tackle in case of injury.

As for other guard and center, either get them from our 2nd and 3rd rd draft picks,

Or Bruss coming back from injury as the other guard,

And if Allen is done because of his knee, then Shelton at Center,

Until are draft picks get up to par. IMO

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