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WTF is that?

The convincing of Doubting Thomas'.

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The convincing of Doubting Thomas'.

Merry Christmas everybody. I'm going to bed!!! Gotta open up my autographed Jackie Slater Photo tomorrow!!

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300 + 4td / O int's > not ready.

Did anyone say he wasn't ready to play whole games?

Cause what you offered there was a stat set for the entire game.

That would be an appropriate response to someone who said he wasn't ready to start. But no one said he wasn't ready to start.



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11 wins and counting, just think how good we’ll be when Goff is ready...

Yeah, we know. But that;'s not a response to anything since not a single person said Goff "isnt' ready."

People are celebrating this game. Not sure why that would lead to poster put-downs against anyone.

Goff didn't surprise me this game...the guy who surprised me was Gurley. I knew Gurley was good. But as one stat person said,

Randall Liu‏ @RLiuNFL
Todd Gurley is the 3rd player in NFL history to have 100+ rushing yards & 150+ receiving yards in a single game, joining Ollie Matson (1954) and Herschel Walker (1986)

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[Hacksaw]

Did anyone say he wasn't ready to play whole games?

Cause what you offered there was a stat set for the entire game.

That would be an appropriate response to someone who said he wasn't ready to start. But no one said he wasn't ready to start.
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bah hum bug zn

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bah hum bug zn

Ah, Scrooge, just enjoy yourself. There's a big win everyone's celebrating. It included a big play everyone's praising. It's not a time for flame wars.

[Rams the Legends live on]

So this doesn’t count as a 4th q comeback??
Ummmm ok....

Maybe I watch to many westerns but this is how your comment read to me bro

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Alden Gonzalez
ESPN Staff Writer
Jared Goff joined Kurt Warner as the only Rams quarterbacks to pass for 300 yards and four touchdowns twice in the same season. Goff went 7-of-12 for 128 yards and 4 touchdowns against the blitz on Sunday, according to ESPN Stats & Info. Most TD passes against the blitz by any QB this season.

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So we can add to the whacky stats, like 31+ yard passes, so what is the time frame to count as a 4th Q comeback?
Rams scored with 11+ minutes left I am guessing 10 minutes or less?

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Just so i'm clear:

QB wins and losses is not a meaningful stat but QB 4th quarter comebacks is?

There;s no such thing as qb wins and losses, there's only team wins and losses, so there is nothing real behind the claim that W/Ls belong to the qb.

4th qb comebacks is not a "stat" per se. Just like arm strength, mental toughness, and so on are not "stats." You just want a qb who remains consistent and poised in that situation in spite of the time pressures. I dont; need to explain WHY, right? Driving late in the 4th quarter when behind, with the clock clicking down, depends on passing to a large degree in a situation where the other team knows that. That puts unusual stress on the qb. The qb has to come through in that situation, more than most. So if you have a guy who can remain poised and effective in that situation, it's a plus, because even good teams end up in close games, for a long list of different reasons. But mostly that's just something you observe.

But there is no actual 4th quarter comeback "stat." PRF counts up the comebacks by each qb, but, it doesn;t tell you anything. Mostly a big number there tells you the qb is a longtime vet. What WOULD tell you something is the PERCENTAGE of times the team was in that situation and won. You would at least know your qb was effective in that situation. No one keeps a percentage stat on that though. I have read various things where writers look into it, but there's no place keeping that as a regular stat (and btw the percentage of wins even for recognized top qbs is not that high, usually around 40-50%).

Someone earlier in the thread acted like someone said just listing the number of 4 quarter comebacks is meaningful, but that was just a misread on their part. It's NOT meaningful and no one said it was. What would be meaningful is knowing what percentage of the time a team wins in that situation. It's also useful to know if your qb thrives in those situations or cracks. A TEAM certainly knows that about their qb, because part of winning in that situation is being confident in the qb. Think how many teams you have heard players say with XYZ at qb we knew we always had a chance to win with the game on the line.

So yeah it's real. It;s just not a "stat."