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 by actionjack
2 years 1 month ago
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 Joined:  May 19 2016
United States of America   Sactown
Hall of Fame

Way to early reports from OTA's via various media

- Puka getting into playbook quickly, been getting snaps on 1st, 2nd and 3rd string reps

- Kobie Turner is not smallish as scouting reports mentioned, has good size. Hopefully starts in the Greg Gaines mold

- Steve Avila- is massive and looks the part of a dominating guard.

 by PARAM
2 years 1 month ago
 Total posts:   13213  
 Joined:  Jul 15 2015
Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
Hall of Fame

CanuckRightWinger wrote:Ya had to get condescending eh?
Too bad because I thought we were actually making progress when you admitted that McSnead's $26Mil purchase of Allen Robinson was a fuckup. Just a flash in the pan, I guess.

Back to your goalpost moving slur....
NFL Teams have two things to spend....Salary Cap $$ and Draft Picks.
Those are the two currencies Teams use to stock their rosters.
Who is jumping "back and forth"? I outlined both. In the same post. What, too tough to follow?

You want to talk about misinformation? Okay.
Your 2023 fine wine might not be such a sought after vintage year.....seems all those post-draft Ram UFAs you lectured us about arriving to augment our roster, are another one of your errant subjective projections.

Objectively, some of us noticed early on (and posted about) how 87% of Los Ramos Salary Cap was tied up in only the Top 11 Ram players, and opined how there was no middle class on our roster....just 11 rich guys and a bunch of $750K to $1.3 Mil peons.....and how that could not stand going forward (except for Fuller who is $2Mil).

Some guys also noticed that while other teams had 60 to 80 guys signed for their 2023 rosters, that Los Ramos only had 44.....and moreover, precious little Cap Space. This you dismissed as more pessimistic hand-wringing. You dubbed it, and other troubling roster observations "the horror" right?

To me, some guys notice things, and other guys live in that "don't worry, be happy world of the braintrust knows more than us", so it is futile to observe and speculate.

And it's not a bad thing to have varying viewpoints in a Talk Forum......but IMO it is a bad thing to one group to project mental disorders onto the other.
Crude projections and rude dismissals.....whatever floats your boat, right?

The Rams knew they had to rip their Dead Money band-aid off at some point, and decided not to kick any more money down the road into 2024. The Demoff letter to the Corinthians laid that out full well. You posted guys like me were paying interest (IE. worry) on an invoice that hadn't been issued yet.

Well, UFA season has come and gone, and the penniless Rams are going to be using their favorable Waiver Wire position (6th IIRC) in the coming months to grab guys like Vincent Gray....IE. other teams' castoffs to augment that PeachFuzz D they've assembled.

You lash out at guys with differing opinions....alot.
It's annoying.

I enjoyed the Draft process with ramsrams up here, like every year. Like all Rams fans, we hope all of our Picks turn into AllPros down the road, and that some of our UDFAs turn into gems....

but in the here and now, this 2023 Rams team has some problems still.....even after addressing that top heavy Salary demographic they had, which BTW they did by gutting their 2022 D. How did you address that again? Oh yeah, don't worry about cutting future HOFer Bobby Wagner because BW wasn't as good a run-stuffer as Troy Reeder was the year before!!! :roll2: Wow, there's some brilliant football knowledge displayed right there sportsfans!!! :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Keep trying to drown out opposing opinions by projecting guys enjoy dental surgery all you want....
just keep rolling it on out,
in full display. It speaks volumes.


My bad. You're right Canuck. I'm wrong. I get personal. You on the other hand, never do. My apologies. Keep up the intense oversight. We need somebody keeping watch. Some of us get too distracted by all the winning.

But of course that all ended last year, so I guess it's a poor excuse. Damn O line!! And by what I've read from all the experts, it'll continue this year. I guess these guys will never learn.

 by Hacksaw
2 years 1 month ago
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 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
Moderator

Self deprecating humor aside, , , uh, , , I got nada.

 by renzocapone
2 years 1 month ago
 Total posts:   5  
 Joined:  May 10 2023
Italy   LA Coliseum
Undrafted Free Agent

Stumbled across an article like this yesterday. The moves for change have indeed been on the surface for some time, but whether newcomers can justify...

https://ramblinfan.com/posts/rams-draft ... h0vst5atm9

 by PARAM
2 years 1 month ago
 Total posts:   13213  
 Joined:  Jul 15 2015
Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
Hall of Fame

actionjack wrote:- Steve Avila- is massive and looks the part of a dominating guard.


I think they may have taken him with the idea he will eventually be our starting C. Playing G next to somebody with smarts like Allen or Shelton will help him. But IMO, the sooner he gets to C, the better. I can see an OL of

Noteboom, Jackson, Avila, Bruss and Havenstein
or
Jackson, Anchrum, Avila, Bruss and Havenstein.

And there are more combos......guys with starting experience.....Noteboom, Jackson, Allen, Shelton, Havenstein....guys ready to start.....Bruss, Anchrum.....guys drafted Avila, McClendon and guys waiting in the wings.......Thomas, Arcuri....that's 11 guys....not bad for a team who doesn't prioritize OL. 8-)

 by CanuckRightWinger
2 years 1 month ago
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Canada   VANCOUVER, BC
Superstar

Question: Why omit OC Sean Maginn, Wake Forest, OG Grant Miller, Baylor & OC Mike McAllister, Youngstown State from the above 2023 Ram OL List, huh? :?2:

I mean, those three 2023 UDFA IOLs were prioritized by McSnead EXACTLY the same way as they prioritized UDFAs Coleman Shelton and Alaric Jackson.....and similar to NFL Draft Picks #261, #250, and #186 (waivers ex Bears), namely Arcuri, Anchrum & Taylor respectively.

So outa 14 Ram OLinemen presently on our 2023 Roster, 8 were signed by McSnead as 6th/7th Rounders & UDFAs, making their prioritization by McSnead kind of questionable to some.

Clearly we do have a 2nd Rounder in the 2023 Ram OL group, Havs...but that was a Fisher pick. :|

It is also agreed that this year, it is clear that McSnead did prioritize OL in this 2023 Draft with 2nd Rounder Avila, and 5th Rounder McClendon.....so that accounts for 11 of our 14 total 2023 OL group.

That leaves Picks #89 Noteboom, #111 Allen & #104 Bruss as your priority Ram OL picks. :idea2:

Seems priority can be somewhat subjective.....
as I, for one, am missing that whole 2017-2022 prioritization McSnead-OL vibe. ;)

No biggee.....JMO.

 by PARAM
2 years 1 month ago
 Total posts:   13213  
 Joined:  Jul 15 2015
Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
Hall of Fame

When I think of OL prioritization, I think of Andy Reid. Or the 49ers. Or the Cowboys, with their fabulous O line. But of those 3, the Chiefs are the only team to win more than the Rams since McVay arrived. I wonder how many lineman those 3 teams have drafted in the last 7 drafts and in what rounds? I would think, a lot.....and definitely in the first two rounds....or where they rank in OL spending......since those three factors are top of the list when it comes to OL prioritization. Why can't we be more like them?

 by ramman2999
2 years 1 month ago
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 Joined:  Nov 23 2022
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Veteran

Great point man. I never really thought of it that way. If we build up our offensive line we are going to be a great team.

 by PARAM
2 years 1 month ago
 Total posts:   13213  
 Joined:  Jul 15 2015
Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
Hall of Fame

Yeah we should build the O line like those teams.

2017-2023

KC Chiefs 6 OL drafted (7th rd, 6th rd, 5th rd, 3rd rd (2), 2nd rd; 2 years 0 drafted)
San Fran 7 OL drafted (6th rd (2), 5th rd (2), 4th rd, 2nd rd, 1st rd; 2 years 0 drafted)
Dallas 8 OL drafted (7th rd, 5th rd (2), 4th rd (2), 3rd rd, 2nd rd 1st rd; 1 year 0 drafted)

Rams 10 OL drafted (7th rd (2), 6th rd, 5th rd (2), 4th rd, 3rd rd (3), 2nd rd; 2 years 0 drafted)
If only we prioritized the OL like those teams!

 by Elvis
2 years 1 month ago
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 Joined:  Mar 28 2015
United States of America   Los Angeles
Administrator

Which brings me back to the stuff i think really matters more: Coaching and QB.

The Chiefs won the SB in 2019 and again last year with two very different Olines but Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes were the same.

Not saying Oline doesn't matter but you can got to and win super bowls with a lot of different Oline builds. Less so with HC/OC and QB...

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