by JackPMiller 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 2729 Joined: Sep 22 2016 LA Coliseum Superstar The O line POST #211 Stupid me, just saw, Rob Havenstein just signed a new 3 year deal. RT will be fine for a few years. I would like to see Aleric Jackson move to LG, and if Bruss can get healthy, next year, have him be the future RG. Then the only concern I have is LT and C. Both Allen and Noteboom, always tends to get injured, and will miss time. Even though Allen is coming back, he did miss time. He may get hurt again, somewhere in the year. Right now, Eric Fisher is out there to sign, and would be a real good fit for LT, to finish the season. by ramsman34 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: The O line POST #212 TOPIC AUTHOR Give A Jax some time at his natural position of LT. Then decide if he is really starter material there. He is not a guard. by CanuckRightWinger 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The O line POST #213 I was out most of the day, & just dropped in to check on any trade activity.....and holy-moley, just noticed that the hallway monitor has detected that there are some dastardly "Supreme Sense of Self "RFU types here that "say the (Rams) staff.....doesn't know what they're doing." "Supreme Sense of Self"??!!! Huh?? Well, clearly Philadelphia Cable TV is running old reruns of Oprah interviewing Dr. Phil, eh! I dunno about other guys, but I've posted that not only were McSnead ballsy/gutsy on the huge Goff+Mega Ram Draft Treasure trade for Matthew Stafford, but that they were also very shrewd/brilliant by getting Lion GM Brad Holmes to eat Goff's remaining salary. I gave McSnead full marks for their masterstroke trade, & moreover have posted that had we not had Stafford in 2021, we never even would've gotten a sniff of the Lombardi with Jared JimmyCarterLeadershipMolecule Goff as our QB last year. Look it up!However, just because one can give well-deserved kudos to McSnead, does not mean that astute Ram fans cannot notice imperfections. Adults call that "making distinctions" or "paying attention." EG. Getting RB Isaiah Pead and OG Rokevious Watkins instead of AllPro ILB Bobby Wagner in the 2012 NFL Draft was a screw-up/fook-up by Les Snead. Even Snead knows he fooked-up, hence his "BobbyWagner Rule". EG. A significant segment of Ramsnation opined that McSnead fooked-up the #57 Pick in the 2021 Draft by passing on ProBowl OC Creed Humphrey for the diminutive (& unproductive so far) WR TuTu Atwell. That doesn't mean those Ram Fans think they are smarter than McSnead, nor does it demonstrate that they all suffer from "Supreme Sense of Self"....it just means that they are on-the-ball, passionate fans, and paying attention. Fact is that those cited examples above are highlighting loyal Ram Fans posting ABOUT THE RAMS. Whereas the guy who is set on diagnosing Supreme Sense of Self disorders to RFUers....yeah, well he's posting ABOUT OTHER POSTERS. Ironic, eh! by AvengerRam 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 8919 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Re: The O line POST #214 PARAM liked this post It’s amazing how some people manage to miss the point every time. Perhaps it’s deliberate. 1 by ramsman34 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator The O line POST #215 TOPIC AUTHOR Ya. You lost me Canuck. The Rams have made mistakes, like every other team. Coulda Woulda, Shoulda really doesn’t matter in the here and now. They hopefully make a move before the trade deadline to bolster the interior OL. A Jax has to play lights out at LT, the rest have to stay healthy and up their play or this team will struggle to make the playoffs and certainly won’t repeat as champs. Whichever way it goes, I think they might approach the OL a bit differently going forward. But they aren’t going to sacrifice the positions they think are more important to do it. That’s not the paradigm they subscribe to at this time. That means they will miss on drafting players we think are better choices for the occasional fuck ups like a Tutu Atwell. I still say their way has been damn successful since the hiring of MCV. And, I expect it to continue. We will see how this season fits into that catalog. As always, JMO. by PARAM 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 13220 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #216 Last edited by PARAM on Oct 30 2022, edited 1 time in total. AvengerRam liked this post AvengerRam wrote:It’s amazing how some people manage to miss the point every time. Perhaps it’s deliberate.Subject: Offensive line"I remember walking to a Rams game in Buffalo back in '73 in a blizzard, uphill, both ways"...... "Well back in 2005 we had a 7th round pick, a QB from Harvard and"....."Hell, I can remember a LB from Ohio St. and I told everybody he sucked"....."YOU CAN LOOK IT UP"......."He always brings up posts from the past"....... Sometimes all there is to say is, WOW! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by PARAM 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 13220 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #217 ramsman34 wrote:Give A Jax some time at his natural position of LT. Then decide if he is really starter material there. He is not a guard.Q???It would shock you if next year's opening day 5 OL were (in no particular order) Noteboom, Jackson, Allen, Bruss and Havenstein.....with Shelton, Anchrum and Arcuri as the first 3 backups? Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by /zn/ 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 6942 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame The O line POST #218 If Jackson acquits himself at LOT, then next year I would open the position to competition once NB comes back. I wouldn't move Jackson to guard. Counting Bruss, Rams have a long list of guard candidates. by ramsman34 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator The O line POST #219 TOPIC AUTHOR PARAM wrote:Q???It would shock you if next year's opening day 5 OL were (in no particular order) Noteboom, Jackson, Allen, Bruss and Havenstein.....with Shelton, Anchrum and Arcuri as the first 3 backups?Hmm shock. No. It I would not expect it. Noteboom simply cannot stay healthy. And frankly, I think A Jax will outperform him and has a chance to become our LT for the immediate and possibly longer future. Jackson is not best suited skill and size wise to be a guard long term. I could see Jackson - new acquisition/ Edwards - Allen - Bruss - Hav Or an entirely new left side next season. by CanuckRightWinger 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The O line POST #220 I agree with you ramsman34 in that the oft-injured Joe Noteboom should not be expected on any 2023 Rams OL as a starter....moreover, I would opine that any guy who sees Noteboom as a 2023 Ram OL starter knows precious-little about football, eh. QUESTION: With the poor-performing 2022 Ram IOL of Oday Aboushi-Brian Allen-Bobby Evans...um...can we even beat the lowly Seattle Seahawks &their dumb HC Pete Carroll this year? QUESTION: Was this a smart 2023 Roster OL move? McSnead gave oft-injured career backup OL Joe Noteboom (#89 Draft '18 pick) a 3 year $40 Mil contract and let the #33 pick of the same 2018 NFL Draft, who was a durable frontline starter for Los Ramos 2019-2021, RG Austin Corbett, walk to Carolina for a 3 year $26.25 Mil contract. Smart move? Finally, THEN: We missed the 2019 Playoffs because, PER A.WHITWORTH to Colin Cowherd: "it was unreasonable to expect 2 young players (Noteboom & Allen) to perform at the level of 2 vets (Saffold & Sullivan)." NOW: We lost 2 superior-talent OL guys to Saffold & Sullivan, in Whitworth & Corbett, following the 2021 SB-win season....and drafted a Wisconsin OG, Logan Bruss, at #104 to fix it. ME: Talk about McSnead repeating their past (yeah, yeah, we got in-house talent for that shortfall, don't worry!) mistakes!!! MY 2022 WISH:We need to limp into the 2022 NFL Playoffs....like the 9-7 Ray Malavasi 1979 Rams did....and then "anything can happen." Reply 22 / 58 1 22 58 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 573 posts Jul 09 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by ramsman34 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: The O line POST #212 TOPIC AUTHOR Give A Jax some time at his natural position of LT. Then decide if he is really starter material there. He is not a guard. by CanuckRightWinger 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The O line POST #213 I was out most of the day, & just dropped in to check on any trade activity.....and holy-moley, just noticed that the hallway monitor has detected that there are some dastardly "Supreme Sense of Self "RFU types here that "say the (Rams) staff.....doesn't know what they're doing." "Supreme Sense of Self"??!!! Huh?? Well, clearly Philadelphia Cable TV is running old reruns of Oprah interviewing Dr. Phil, eh! I dunno about other guys, but I've posted that not only were McSnead ballsy/gutsy on the huge Goff+Mega Ram Draft Treasure trade for Matthew Stafford, but that they were also very shrewd/brilliant by getting Lion GM Brad Holmes to eat Goff's remaining salary. I gave McSnead full marks for their masterstroke trade, & moreover have posted that had we not had Stafford in 2021, we never even would've gotten a sniff of the Lombardi with Jared JimmyCarterLeadershipMolecule Goff as our QB last year. Look it up!However, just because one can give well-deserved kudos to McSnead, does not mean that astute Ram fans cannot notice imperfections. Adults call that "making distinctions" or "paying attention." EG. Getting RB Isaiah Pead and OG Rokevious Watkins instead of AllPro ILB Bobby Wagner in the 2012 NFL Draft was a screw-up/fook-up by Les Snead. Even Snead knows he fooked-up, hence his "BobbyWagner Rule". EG. A significant segment of Ramsnation opined that McSnead fooked-up the #57 Pick in the 2021 Draft by passing on ProBowl OC Creed Humphrey for the diminutive (& unproductive so far) WR TuTu Atwell. That doesn't mean those Ram Fans think they are smarter than McSnead, nor does it demonstrate that they all suffer from "Supreme Sense of Self"....it just means that they are on-the-ball, passionate fans, and paying attention. Fact is that those cited examples above are highlighting loyal Ram Fans posting ABOUT THE RAMS. Whereas the guy who is set on diagnosing Supreme Sense of Self disorders to RFUers....yeah, well he's posting ABOUT OTHER POSTERS. Ironic, eh! by AvengerRam 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 8919 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Re: The O line POST #214 PARAM liked this post It’s amazing how some people manage to miss the point every time. Perhaps it’s deliberate. 1 by ramsman34 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator The O line POST #215 TOPIC AUTHOR Ya. You lost me Canuck. The Rams have made mistakes, like every other team. Coulda Woulda, Shoulda really doesn’t matter in the here and now. They hopefully make a move before the trade deadline to bolster the interior OL. A Jax has to play lights out at LT, the rest have to stay healthy and up their play or this team will struggle to make the playoffs and certainly won’t repeat as champs. Whichever way it goes, I think they might approach the OL a bit differently going forward. But they aren’t going to sacrifice the positions they think are more important to do it. That’s not the paradigm they subscribe to at this time. That means they will miss on drafting players we think are better choices for the occasional fuck ups like a Tutu Atwell. I still say their way has been damn successful since the hiring of MCV. And, I expect it to continue. We will see how this season fits into that catalog. As always, JMO. by PARAM 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 13220 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #216 Last edited by PARAM on Oct 30 2022, edited 1 time in total. AvengerRam liked this post AvengerRam wrote:It’s amazing how some people manage to miss the point every time. Perhaps it’s deliberate.Subject: Offensive line"I remember walking to a Rams game in Buffalo back in '73 in a blizzard, uphill, both ways"...... "Well back in 2005 we had a 7th round pick, a QB from Harvard and"....."Hell, I can remember a LB from Ohio St. and I told everybody he sucked"....."YOU CAN LOOK IT UP"......."He always brings up posts from the past"....... Sometimes all there is to say is, WOW! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by PARAM 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 13220 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #217 ramsman34 wrote:Give A Jax some time at his natural position of LT. Then decide if he is really starter material there. He is not a guard.Q???It would shock you if next year's opening day 5 OL were (in no particular order) Noteboom, Jackson, Allen, Bruss and Havenstein.....with Shelton, Anchrum and Arcuri as the first 3 backups? Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by /zn/ 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 6942 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame The O line POST #218 If Jackson acquits himself at LOT, then next year I would open the position to competition once NB comes back. I wouldn't move Jackson to guard. Counting Bruss, Rams have a long list of guard candidates. by ramsman34 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator The O line POST #219 TOPIC AUTHOR PARAM wrote:Q???It would shock you if next year's opening day 5 OL were (in no particular order) Noteboom, Jackson, Allen, Bruss and Havenstein.....with Shelton, Anchrum and Arcuri as the first 3 backups?Hmm shock. No. It I would not expect it. Noteboom simply cannot stay healthy. And frankly, I think A Jax will outperform him and has a chance to become our LT for the immediate and possibly longer future. Jackson is not best suited skill and size wise to be a guard long term. I could see Jackson - new acquisition/ Edwards - Allen - Bruss - Hav Or an entirely new left side next season. by CanuckRightWinger 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The O line POST #220 I agree with you ramsman34 in that the oft-injured Joe Noteboom should not be expected on any 2023 Rams OL as a starter....moreover, I would opine that any guy who sees Noteboom as a 2023 Ram OL starter knows precious-little about football, eh. QUESTION: With the poor-performing 2022 Ram IOL of Oday Aboushi-Brian Allen-Bobby Evans...um...can we even beat the lowly Seattle Seahawks &their dumb HC Pete Carroll this year? QUESTION: Was this a smart 2023 Roster OL move? McSnead gave oft-injured career backup OL Joe Noteboom (#89 Draft '18 pick) a 3 year $40 Mil contract and let the #33 pick of the same 2018 NFL Draft, who was a durable frontline starter for Los Ramos 2019-2021, RG Austin Corbett, walk to Carolina for a 3 year $26.25 Mil contract. Smart move? Finally, THEN: We missed the 2019 Playoffs because, PER A.WHITWORTH to Colin Cowherd: "it was unreasonable to expect 2 young players (Noteboom & Allen) to perform at the level of 2 vets (Saffold & Sullivan)." NOW: We lost 2 superior-talent OL guys to Saffold & Sullivan, in Whitworth & Corbett, following the 2021 SB-win season....and drafted a Wisconsin OG, Logan Bruss, at #104 to fix it. ME: Talk about McSnead repeating their past (yeah, yeah, we got in-house talent for that shortfall, don't worry!) mistakes!!! MY 2022 WISH:We need to limp into the 2022 NFL Playoffs....like the 9-7 Ray Malavasi 1979 Rams did....and then "anything can happen." Reply 22 / 58 1 22 58 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 573 posts Jul 09 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by CanuckRightWinger 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The O line POST #213 I was out most of the day, & just dropped in to check on any trade activity.....and holy-moley, just noticed that the hallway monitor has detected that there are some dastardly "Supreme Sense of Self "RFU types here that "say the (Rams) staff.....doesn't know what they're doing." "Supreme Sense of Self"??!!! Huh?? Well, clearly Philadelphia Cable TV is running old reruns of Oprah interviewing Dr. Phil, eh! I dunno about other guys, but I've posted that not only were McSnead ballsy/gutsy on the huge Goff+Mega Ram Draft Treasure trade for Matthew Stafford, but that they were also very shrewd/brilliant by getting Lion GM Brad Holmes to eat Goff's remaining salary. I gave McSnead full marks for their masterstroke trade, & moreover have posted that had we not had Stafford in 2021, we never even would've gotten a sniff of the Lombardi with Jared JimmyCarterLeadershipMolecule Goff as our QB last year. Look it up!However, just because one can give well-deserved kudos to McSnead, does not mean that astute Ram fans cannot notice imperfections. Adults call that "making distinctions" or "paying attention." EG. Getting RB Isaiah Pead and OG Rokevious Watkins instead of AllPro ILB Bobby Wagner in the 2012 NFL Draft was a screw-up/fook-up by Les Snead. Even Snead knows he fooked-up, hence his "BobbyWagner Rule". EG. A significant segment of Ramsnation opined that McSnead fooked-up the #57 Pick in the 2021 Draft by passing on ProBowl OC Creed Humphrey for the diminutive (& unproductive so far) WR TuTu Atwell. That doesn't mean those Ram Fans think they are smarter than McSnead, nor does it demonstrate that they all suffer from "Supreme Sense of Self"....it just means that they are on-the-ball, passionate fans, and paying attention. Fact is that those cited examples above are highlighting loyal Ram Fans posting ABOUT THE RAMS. Whereas the guy who is set on diagnosing Supreme Sense of Self disorders to RFUers....yeah, well he's posting ABOUT OTHER POSTERS. Ironic, eh! by AvengerRam 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 8919 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Re: The O line POST #214 PARAM liked this post It’s amazing how some people manage to miss the point every time. Perhaps it’s deliberate. 1 by ramsman34 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator The O line POST #215 TOPIC AUTHOR Ya. You lost me Canuck. The Rams have made mistakes, like every other team. Coulda Woulda, Shoulda really doesn’t matter in the here and now. They hopefully make a move before the trade deadline to bolster the interior OL. A Jax has to play lights out at LT, the rest have to stay healthy and up their play or this team will struggle to make the playoffs and certainly won’t repeat as champs. Whichever way it goes, I think they might approach the OL a bit differently going forward. But they aren’t going to sacrifice the positions they think are more important to do it. That’s not the paradigm they subscribe to at this time. That means they will miss on drafting players we think are better choices for the occasional fuck ups like a Tutu Atwell. I still say their way has been damn successful since the hiring of MCV. And, I expect it to continue. We will see how this season fits into that catalog. As always, JMO. by PARAM 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 13220 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #216 Last edited by PARAM on Oct 30 2022, edited 1 time in total. AvengerRam liked this post AvengerRam wrote:It’s amazing how some people manage to miss the point every time. Perhaps it’s deliberate.Subject: Offensive line"I remember walking to a Rams game in Buffalo back in '73 in a blizzard, uphill, both ways"...... "Well back in 2005 we had a 7th round pick, a QB from Harvard and"....."Hell, I can remember a LB from Ohio St. and I told everybody he sucked"....."YOU CAN LOOK IT UP"......."He always brings up posts from the past"....... Sometimes all there is to say is, WOW! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by PARAM 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 13220 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #217 ramsman34 wrote:Give A Jax some time at his natural position of LT. Then decide if he is really starter material there. He is not a guard.Q???It would shock you if next year's opening day 5 OL were (in no particular order) Noteboom, Jackson, Allen, Bruss and Havenstein.....with Shelton, Anchrum and Arcuri as the first 3 backups? Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by /zn/ 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 6942 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame The O line POST #218 If Jackson acquits himself at LOT, then next year I would open the position to competition once NB comes back. I wouldn't move Jackson to guard. Counting Bruss, Rams have a long list of guard candidates. by ramsman34 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator The O line POST #219 TOPIC AUTHOR PARAM wrote:Q???It would shock you if next year's opening day 5 OL were (in no particular order) Noteboom, Jackson, Allen, Bruss and Havenstein.....with Shelton, Anchrum and Arcuri as the first 3 backups?Hmm shock. No. It I would not expect it. Noteboom simply cannot stay healthy. And frankly, I think A Jax will outperform him and has a chance to become our LT for the immediate and possibly longer future. Jackson is not best suited skill and size wise to be a guard long term. I could see Jackson - new acquisition/ Edwards - Allen - Bruss - Hav Or an entirely new left side next season. by CanuckRightWinger 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The O line POST #220 I agree with you ramsman34 in that the oft-injured Joe Noteboom should not be expected on any 2023 Rams OL as a starter....moreover, I would opine that any guy who sees Noteboom as a 2023 Ram OL starter knows precious-little about football, eh. QUESTION: With the poor-performing 2022 Ram IOL of Oday Aboushi-Brian Allen-Bobby Evans...um...can we even beat the lowly Seattle Seahawks &their dumb HC Pete Carroll this year? QUESTION: Was this a smart 2023 Roster OL move? McSnead gave oft-injured career backup OL Joe Noteboom (#89 Draft '18 pick) a 3 year $40 Mil contract and let the #33 pick of the same 2018 NFL Draft, who was a durable frontline starter for Los Ramos 2019-2021, RG Austin Corbett, walk to Carolina for a 3 year $26.25 Mil contract. Smart move? Finally, THEN: We missed the 2019 Playoffs because, PER A.WHITWORTH to Colin Cowherd: "it was unreasonable to expect 2 young players (Noteboom & Allen) to perform at the level of 2 vets (Saffold & Sullivan)." NOW: We lost 2 superior-talent OL guys to Saffold & Sullivan, in Whitworth & Corbett, following the 2021 SB-win season....and drafted a Wisconsin OG, Logan Bruss, at #104 to fix it. ME: Talk about McSnead repeating their past (yeah, yeah, we got in-house talent for that shortfall, don't worry!) mistakes!!! MY 2022 WISH:We need to limp into the 2022 NFL Playoffs....like the 9-7 Ray Malavasi 1979 Rams did....and then "anything can happen." Reply 22 / 58 1 22 58 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 573 posts Jul 09 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by AvengerRam 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 8919 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Re: The O line POST #214 PARAM liked this post It’s amazing how some people manage to miss the point every time. Perhaps it’s deliberate. 1 by ramsman34 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator The O line POST #215 TOPIC AUTHOR Ya. You lost me Canuck. The Rams have made mistakes, like every other team. Coulda Woulda, Shoulda really doesn’t matter in the here and now. They hopefully make a move before the trade deadline to bolster the interior OL. A Jax has to play lights out at LT, the rest have to stay healthy and up their play or this team will struggle to make the playoffs and certainly won’t repeat as champs. Whichever way it goes, I think they might approach the OL a bit differently going forward. But they aren’t going to sacrifice the positions they think are more important to do it. That’s not the paradigm they subscribe to at this time. That means they will miss on drafting players we think are better choices for the occasional fuck ups like a Tutu Atwell. I still say their way has been damn successful since the hiring of MCV. And, I expect it to continue. We will see how this season fits into that catalog. As always, JMO. by PARAM 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 13220 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #216 Last edited by PARAM on Oct 30 2022, edited 1 time in total. AvengerRam liked this post AvengerRam wrote:It’s amazing how some people manage to miss the point every time. Perhaps it’s deliberate.Subject: Offensive line"I remember walking to a Rams game in Buffalo back in '73 in a blizzard, uphill, both ways"...... "Well back in 2005 we had a 7th round pick, a QB from Harvard and"....."Hell, I can remember a LB from Ohio St. and I told everybody he sucked"....."YOU CAN LOOK IT UP"......."He always brings up posts from the past"....... Sometimes all there is to say is, WOW! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by PARAM 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 13220 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #217 ramsman34 wrote:Give A Jax some time at his natural position of LT. Then decide if he is really starter material there. He is not a guard.Q???It would shock you if next year's opening day 5 OL were (in no particular order) Noteboom, Jackson, Allen, Bruss and Havenstein.....with Shelton, Anchrum and Arcuri as the first 3 backups? Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by /zn/ 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 6942 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame The O line POST #218 If Jackson acquits himself at LOT, then next year I would open the position to competition once NB comes back. I wouldn't move Jackson to guard. Counting Bruss, Rams have a long list of guard candidates. by ramsman34 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator The O line POST #219 TOPIC AUTHOR PARAM wrote:Q???It would shock you if next year's opening day 5 OL were (in no particular order) Noteboom, Jackson, Allen, Bruss and Havenstein.....with Shelton, Anchrum and Arcuri as the first 3 backups?Hmm shock. No. It I would not expect it. Noteboom simply cannot stay healthy. And frankly, I think A Jax will outperform him and has a chance to become our LT for the immediate and possibly longer future. Jackson is not best suited skill and size wise to be a guard long term. I could see Jackson - new acquisition/ Edwards - Allen - Bruss - Hav Or an entirely new left side next season. by CanuckRightWinger 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The O line POST #220 I agree with you ramsman34 in that the oft-injured Joe Noteboom should not be expected on any 2023 Rams OL as a starter....moreover, I would opine that any guy who sees Noteboom as a 2023 Ram OL starter knows precious-little about football, eh. QUESTION: With the poor-performing 2022 Ram IOL of Oday Aboushi-Brian Allen-Bobby Evans...um...can we even beat the lowly Seattle Seahawks &their dumb HC Pete Carroll this year? QUESTION: Was this a smart 2023 Roster OL move? McSnead gave oft-injured career backup OL Joe Noteboom (#89 Draft '18 pick) a 3 year $40 Mil contract and let the #33 pick of the same 2018 NFL Draft, who was a durable frontline starter for Los Ramos 2019-2021, RG Austin Corbett, walk to Carolina for a 3 year $26.25 Mil contract. Smart move? Finally, THEN: We missed the 2019 Playoffs because, PER A.WHITWORTH to Colin Cowherd: "it was unreasonable to expect 2 young players (Noteboom & Allen) to perform at the level of 2 vets (Saffold & Sullivan)." NOW: We lost 2 superior-talent OL guys to Saffold & Sullivan, in Whitworth & Corbett, following the 2021 SB-win season....and drafted a Wisconsin OG, Logan Bruss, at #104 to fix it. ME: Talk about McSnead repeating their past (yeah, yeah, we got in-house talent for that shortfall, don't worry!) mistakes!!! MY 2022 WISH:We need to limp into the 2022 NFL Playoffs....like the 9-7 Ray Malavasi 1979 Rams did....and then "anything can happen." Reply 22 / 58 1 22 58 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 573 posts Jul 09 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by ramsman34 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator The O line POST #215 TOPIC AUTHOR Ya. You lost me Canuck. The Rams have made mistakes, like every other team. Coulda Woulda, Shoulda really doesn’t matter in the here and now. They hopefully make a move before the trade deadline to bolster the interior OL. A Jax has to play lights out at LT, the rest have to stay healthy and up their play or this team will struggle to make the playoffs and certainly won’t repeat as champs. Whichever way it goes, I think they might approach the OL a bit differently going forward. But they aren’t going to sacrifice the positions they think are more important to do it. That’s not the paradigm they subscribe to at this time. That means they will miss on drafting players we think are better choices for the occasional fuck ups like a Tutu Atwell. I still say their way has been damn successful since the hiring of MCV. And, I expect it to continue. We will see how this season fits into that catalog. As always, JMO. by PARAM 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 13220 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #216 Last edited by PARAM on Oct 30 2022, edited 1 time in total. AvengerRam liked this post AvengerRam wrote:It’s amazing how some people manage to miss the point every time. Perhaps it’s deliberate.Subject: Offensive line"I remember walking to a Rams game in Buffalo back in '73 in a blizzard, uphill, both ways"...... "Well back in 2005 we had a 7th round pick, a QB from Harvard and"....."Hell, I can remember a LB from Ohio St. and I told everybody he sucked"....."YOU CAN LOOK IT UP"......."He always brings up posts from the past"....... Sometimes all there is to say is, WOW! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by PARAM 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 13220 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #217 ramsman34 wrote:Give A Jax some time at his natural position of LT. Then decide if he is really starter material there. He is not a guard.Q???It would shock you if next year's opening day 5 OL were (in no particular order) Noteboom, Jackson, Allen, Bruss and Havenstein.....with Shelton, Anchrum and Arcuri as the first 3 backups? Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by /zn/ 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 6942 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame The O line POST #218 If Jackson acquits himself at LOT, then next year I would open the position to competition once NB comes back. I wouldn't move Jackson to guard. Counting Bruss, Rams have a long list of guard candidates. by ramsman34 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator The O line POST #219 TOPIC AUTHOR PARAM wrote:Q???It would shock you if next year's opening day 5 OL were (in no particular order) Noteboom, Jackson, Allen, Bruss and Havenstein.....with Shelton, Anchrum and Arcuri as the first 3 backups?Hmm shock. No. It I would not expect it. Noteboom simply cannot stay healthy. And frankly, I think A Jax will outperform him and has a chance to become our LT for the immediate and possibly longer future. Jackson is not best suited skill and size wise to be a guard long term. I could see Jackson - new acquisition/ Edwards - Allen - Bruss - Hav Or an entirely new left side next season. by CanuckRightWinger 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The O line POST #220 I agree with you ramsman34 in that the oft-injured Joe Noteboom should not be expected on any 2023 Rams OL as a starter....moreover, I would opine that any guy who sees Noteboom as a 2023 Ram OL starter knows precious-little about football, eh. QUESTION: With the poor-performing 2022 Ram IOL of Oday Aboushi-Brian Allen-Bobby Evans...um...can we even beat the lowly Seattle Seahawks &their dumb HC Pete Carroll this year? QUESTION: Was this a smart 2023 Roster OL move? McSnead gave oft-injured career backup OL Joe Noteboom (#89 Draft '18 pick) a 3 year $40 Mil contract and let the #33 pick of the same 2018 NFL Draft, who was a durable frontline starter for Los Ramos 2019-2021, RG Austin Corbett, walk to Carolina for a 3 year $26.25 Mil contract. Smart move? Finally, THEN: We missed the 2019 Playoffs because, PER A.WHITWORTH to Colin Cowherd: "it was unreasonable to expect 2 young players (Noteboom & Allen) to perform at the level of 2 vets (Saffold & Sullivan)." NOW: We lost 2 superior-talent OL guys to Saffold & Sullivan, in Whitworth & Corbett, following the 2021 SB-win season....and drafted a Wisconsin OG, Logan Bruss, at #104 to fix it. ME: Talk about McSnead repeating their past (yeah, yeah, we got in-house talent for that shortfall, don't worry!) mistakes!!! MY 2022 WISH:We need to limp into the 2022 NFL Playoffs....like the 9-7 Ray Malavasi 1979 Rams did....and then "anything can happen." Reply 22 / 58 1 22 58 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 573 posts Jul 09 2025
by PARAM 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 13220 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #216 Last edited by PARAM on Oct 30 2022, edited 1 time in total. AvengerRam liked this post AvengerRam wrote:It’s amazing how some people manage to miss the point every time. Perhaps it’s deliberate.Subject: Offensive line"I remember walking to a Rams game in Buffalo back in '73 in a blizzard, uphill, both ways"...... "Well back in 2005 we had a 7th round pick, a QB from Harvard and"....."Hell, I can remember a LB from Ohio St. and I told everybody he sucked"....."YOU CAN LOOK IT UP"......."He always brings up posts from the past"....... Sometimes all there is to say is, WOW! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by PARAM 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 13220 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #217 ramsman34 wrote:Give A Jax some time at his natural position of LT. Then decide if he is really starter material there. He is not a guard.Q???It would shock you if next year's opening day 5 OL were (in no particular order) Noteboom, Jackson, Allen, Bruss and Havenstein.....with Shelton, Anchrum and Arcuri as the first 3 backups? Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by /zn/ 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 6942 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame The O line POST #218 If Jackson acquits himself at LOT, then next year I would open the position to competition once NB comes back. I wouldn't move Jackson to guard. Counting Bruss, Rams have a long list of guard candidates. by ramsman34 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator The O line POST #219 TOPIC AUTHOR PARAM wrote:Q???It would shock you if next year's opening day 5 OL were (in no particular order) Noteboom, Jackson, Allen, Bruss and Havenstein.....with Shelton, Anchrum and Arcuri as the first 3 backups?Hmm shock. No. It I would not expect it. Noteboom simply cannot stay healthy. And frankly, I think A Jax will outperform him and has a chance to become our LT for the immediate and possibly longer future. Jackson is not best suited skill and size wise to be a guard long term. I could see Jackson - new acquisition/ Edwards - Allen - Bruss - Hav Or an entirely new left side next season. by CanuckRightWinger 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The O line POST #220 I agree with you ramsman34 in that the oft-injured Joe Noteboom should not be expected on any 2023 Rams OL as a starter....moreover, I would opine that any guy who sees Noteboom as a 2023 Ram OL starter knows precious-little about football, eh. QUESTION: With the poor-performing 2022 Ram IOL of Oday Aboushi-Brian Allen-Bobby Evans...um...can we even beat the lowly Seattle Seahawks &their dumb HC Pete Carroll this year? QUESTION: Was this a smart 2023 Roster OL move? McSnead gave oft-injured career backup OL Joe Noteboom (#89 Draft '18 pick) a 3 year $40 Mil contract and let the #33 pick of the same 2018 NFL Draft, who was a durable frontline starter for Los Ramos 2019-2021, RG Austin Corbett, walk to Carolina for a 3 year $26.25 Mil contract. Smart move? Finally, THEN: We missed the 2019 Playoffs because, PER A.WHITWORTH to Colin Cowherd: "it was unreasonable to expect 2 young players (Noteboom & Allen) to perform at the level of 2 vets (Saffold & Sullivan)." NOW: We lost 2 superior-talent OL guys to Saffold & Sullivan, in Whitworth & Corbett, following the 2021 SB-win season....and drafted a Wisconsin OG, Logan Bruss, at #104 to fix it. ME: Talk about McSnead repeating their past (yeah, yeah, we got in-house talent for that shortfall, don't worry!) mistakes!!! MY 2022 WISH:We need to limp into the 2022 NFL Playoffs....like the 9-7 Ray Malavasi 1979 Rams did....and then "anything can happen." Reply 22 / 58 1 22 58 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 573 posts Jul 09 2025
by PARAM 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 13220 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame The O line POST #217 ramsman34 wrote:Give A Jax some time at his natural position of LT. Then decide if he is really starter material there. He is not a guard.Q???It would shock you if next year's opening day 5 OL were (in no particular order) Noteboom, Jackson, Allen, Bruss and Havenstein.....with Shelton, Anchrum and Arcuri as the first 3 backups? Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by /zn/ 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 6942 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame The O line POST #218 If Jackson acquits himself at LOT, then next year I would open the position to competition once NB comes back. I wouldn't move Jackson to guard. Counting Bruss, Rams have a long list of guard candidates. by ramsman34 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator The O line POST #219 TOPIC AUTHOR PARAM wrote:Q???It would shock you if next year's opening day 5 OL were (in no particular order) Noteboom, Jackson, Allen, Bruss and Havenstein.....with Shelton, Anchrum and Arcuri as the first 3 backups?Hmm shock. No. It I would not expect it. Noteboom simply cannot stay healthy. And frankly, I think A Jax will outperform him and has a chance to become our LT for the immediate and possibly longer future. Jackson is not best suited skill and size wise to be a guard long term. I could see Jackson - new acquisition/ Edwards - Allen - Bruss - Hav Or an entirely new left side next season. by CanuckRightWinger 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The O line POST #220 I agree with you ramsman34 in that the oft-injured Joe Noteboom should not be expected on any 2023 Rams OL as a starter....moreover, I would opine that any guy who sees Noteboom as a 2023 Ram OL starter knows precious-little about football, eh. QUESTION: With the poor-performing 2022 Ram IOL of Oday Aboushi-Brian Allen-Bobby Evans...um...can we even beat the lowly Seattle Seahawks &their dumb HC Pete Carroll this year? QUESTION: Was this a smart 2023 Roster OL move? McSnead gave oft-injured career backup OL Joe Noteboom (#89 Draft '18 pick) a 3 year $40 Mil contract and let the #33 pick of the same 2018 NFL Draft, who was a durable frontline starter for Los Ramos 2019-2021, RG Austin Corbett, walk to Carolina for a 3 year $26.25 Mil contract. Smart move? Finally, THEN: We missed the 2019 Playoffs because, PER A.WHITWORTH to Colin Cowherd: "it was unreasonable to expect 2 young players (Noteboom & Allen) to perform at the level of 2 vets (Saffold & Sullivan)." NOW: We lost 2 superior-talent OL guys to Saffold & Sullivan, in Whitworth & Corbett, following the 2021 SB-win season....and drafted a Wisconsin OG, Logan Bruss, at #104 to fix it. ME: Talk about McSnead repeating their past (yeah, yeah, we got in-house talent for that shortfall, don't worry!) mistakes!!! MY 2022 WISH:We need to limp into the 2022 NFL Playoffs....like the 9-7 Ray Malavasi 1979 Rams did....and then "anything can happen." Reply 22 / 58 1 22 58 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 573 posts Jul 09 2025
by /zn/ 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 6942 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame The O line POST #218 If Jackson acquits himself at LOT, then next year I would open the position to competition once NB comes back. I wouldn't move Jackson to guard. Counting Bruss, Rams have a long list of guard candidates. by ramsman34 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator The O line POST #219 TOPIC AUTHOR PARAM wrote:Q???It would shock you if next year's opening day 5 OL were (in no particular order) Noteboom, Jackson, Allen, Bruss and Havenstein.....with Shelton, Anchrum and Arcuri as the first 3 backups?Hmm shock. No. It I would not expect it. Noteboom simply cannot stay healthy. And frankly, I think A Jax will outperform him and has a chance to become our LT for the immediate and possibly longer future. Jackson is not best suited skill and size wise to be a guard long term. I could see Jackson - new acquisition/ Edwards - Allen - Bruss - Hav Or an entirely new left side next season. by CanuckRightWinger 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The O line POST #220 I agree with you ramsman34 in that the oft-injured Joe Noteboom should not be expected on any 2023 Rams OL as a starter....moreover, I would opine that any guy who sees Noteboom as a 2023 Ram OL starter knows precious-little about football, eh. QUESTION: With the poor-performing 2022 Ram IOL of Oday Aboushi-Brian Allen-Bobby Evans...um...can we even beat the lowly Seattle Seahawks &their dumb HC Pete Carroll this year? QUESTION: Was this a smart 2023 Roster OL move? McSnead gave oft-injured career backup OL Joe Noteboom (#89 Draft '18 pick) a 3 year $40 Mil contract and let the #33 pick of the same 2018 NFL Draft, who was a durable frontline starter for Los Ramos 2019-2021, RG Austin Corbett, walk to Carolina for a 3 year $26.25 Mil contract. Smart move? Finally, THEN: We missed the 2019 Playoffs because, PER A.WHITWORTH to Colin Cowherd: "it was unreasonable to expect 2 young players (Noteboom & Allen) to perform at the level of 2 vets (Saffold & Sullivan)." NOW: We lost 2 superior-talent OL guys to Saffold & Sullivan, in Whitworth & Corbett, following the 2021 SB-win season....and drafted a Wisconsin OG, Logan Bruss, at #104 to fix it. ME: Talk about McSnead repeating their past (yeah, yeah, we got in-house talent for that shortfall, don't worry!) mistakes!!! MY 2022 WISH:We need to limp into the 2022 NFL Playoffs....like the 9-7 Ray Malavasi 1979 Rams did....and then "anything can happen." Reply 22 / 58 1 22 58 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 573 posts Jul 09 2025
by ramsman34 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator The O line POST #219 TOPIC AUTHOR PARAM wrote:Q???It would shock you if next year's opening day 5 OL were (in no particular order) Noteboom, Jackson, Allen, Bruss and Havenstein.....with Shelton, Anchrum and Arcuri as the first 3 backups?Hmm shock. No. It I would not expect it. Noteboom simply cannot stay healthy. And frankly, I think A Jax will outperform him and has a chance to become our LT for the immediate and possibly longer future. Jackson is not best suited skill and size wise to be a guard long term. I could see Jackson - new acquisition/ Edwards - Allen - Bruss - Hav Or an entirely new left side next season. by CanuckRightWinger 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The O line POST #220 I agree with you ramsman34 in that the oft-injured Joe Noteboom should not be expected on any 2023 Rams OL as a starter....moreover, I would opine that any guy who sees Noteboom as a 2023 Ram OL starter knows precious-little about football, eh. QUESTION: With the poor-performing 2022 Ram IOL of Oday Aboushi-Brian Allen-Bobby Evans...um...can we even beat the lowly Seattle Seahawks &their dumb HC Pete Carroll this year? QUESTION: Was this a smart 2023 Roster OL move? McSnead gave oft-injured career backup OL Joe Noteboom (#89 Draft '18 pick) a 3 year $40 Mil contract and let the #33 pick of the same 2018 NFL Draft, who was a durable frontline starter for Los Ramos 2019-2021, RG Austin Corbett, walk to Carolina for a 3 year $26.25 Mil contract. Smart move? Finally, THEN: We missed the 2019 Playoffs because, PER A.WHITWORTH to Colin Cowherd: "it was unreasonable to expect 2 young players (Noteboom & Allen) to perform at the level of 2 vets (Saffold & Sullivan)." NOW: We lost 2 superior-talent OL guys to Saffold & Sullivan, in Whitworth & Corbett, following the 2021 SB-win season....and drafted a Wisconsin OG, Logan Bruss, at #104 to fix it. ME: Talk about McSnead repeating their past (yeah, yeah, we got in-house talent for that shortfall, don't worry!) mistakes!!! MY 2022 WISH:We need to limp into the 2022 NFL Playoffs....like the 9-7 Ray Malavasi 1979 Rams did....and then "anything can happen." Reply 22 / 58 1 22 58 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 573 posts Jul 09 2025
by CanuckRightWinger 2 years 8 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar The O line POST #220 I agree with you ramsman34 in that the oft-injured Joe Noteboom should not be expected on any 2023 Rams OL as a starter....moreover, I would opine that any guy who sees Noteboom as a 2023 Ram OL starter knows precious-little about football, eh. QUESTION: With the poor-performing 2022 Ram IOL of Oday Aboushi-Brian Allen-Bobby Evans...um...can we even beat the lowly Seattle Seahawks &their dumb HC Pete Carroll this year? QUESTION: Was this a smart 2023 Roster OL move? McSnead gave oft-injured career backup OL Joe Noteboom (#89 Draft '18 pick) a 3 year $40 Mil contract and let the #33 pick of the same 2018 NFL Draft, who was a durable frontline starter for Los Ramos 2019-2021, RG Austin Corbett, walk to Carolina for a 3 year $26.25 Mil contract. Smart move? Finally, THEN: We missed the 2019 Playoffs because, PER A.WHITWORTH to Colin Cowherd: "it was unreasonable to expect 2 young players (Noteboom & Allen) to perform at the level of 2 vets (Saffold & Sullivan)." NOW: We lost 2 superior-talent OL guys to Saffold & Sullivan, in Whitworth & Corbett, following the 2021 SB-win season....and drafted a Wisconsin OG, Logan Bruss, at #104 to fix it. ME: Talk about McSnead repeating their past (yeah, yeah, we got in-house talent for that shortfall, don't worry!) mistakes!!! MY 2022 WISH:We need to limp into the 2022 NFL Playoffs....like the 9-7 Ray Malavasi 1979 Rams did....and then "anything can happen." Reply 22 / 58 1 22 58 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business