by ramsman34 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #201 Elvis wrote:Yep, this isn’t going away anytime soon...Indeed, great for exploding boards like our all offseason, lol.Les' job is to constantly try to upgrade the roster - everywhere. he also has to navigate current and future cap implications, replace/promote/manage personnel staff, etc. If he sees a deal he likes, can make, with the most upside impact - he has demonstrated he will not hesitate to do so. No one is immune to these types of moves/deals. that is the nature of the NFL.Related: I spoke with Thomas from England doing the Rams fan research project yesterday. One of the things I brought up was exactly the above: The moving of players constant, and how that diminishes my "fervor". I'd like players to stick around for a while. It sucks watching guys you have rooted for "walk" only after a couple years on the team. That's the NFL today. by AvengerRam 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 8921 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #202 TOPIC AUTHOR Well... this offseason isn't going to be boring! by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #203 RFU Season Ticket Holder by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #204 RFU Season Ticket Holder by AvengerRam 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 8921 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #205 TOPIC AUTHOR Although I'm not convinced that a better option than Goff will present itself, I like the fact that the team leadership is openly acknowledging the offense's shortcomings in 2020 and expressing a commitment to improve. Too often, we get more of a "we're on the right track" or "we just need a tweak here and there" or a "shoot, we'll fix that" message. Looks like the Rams, despite improving from a team that missed the playoffs to a team that was among the final 8, are recognizing that there's significant work to be done to get to the next level. by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #206 When you think back to Gurley, the party line was pretty much Gurley is fine, 100%, his usage is situational, coaches decision, has earned vetrans days off, want to keep him fresh for long season including playoff run, etc.And then we cut him.This is a whole different rap from McVay and Snead. Does that mean we're sticking with Goff?Doesn't look good for him from my eyes but who knows. The Rams certainly have a way of doing the unexpected... RFU Season Ticket Holder by Gareth 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1241 Joined: Mar 30 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #207 Elvis wrote:When you think back to Gurley, the party line was pretty much Gurley is fine, 100%, his usage is situational, coaches decision, has earned vetrans days off, want to keep him fresh for long season including playoff run, etc.And then we cut him.This is a whole different rap from McVay and Snead. Does that mean we're sticking with Goff?Doesn't look good for him from my eyes but who knows. The Rams certainly have a way of doing the unexpected...I was thinking about this too. Such an opposite approach from what they’ve done before. One would think that even if they really wanted to move on from Goff, they would say the opposite. Some would say it’s a motivational tactic but I just don’t buy that. I doubt Jared has a problem with motivation plus if anything I think this would just make him bitter.Something tells me that Matt Stafford could be in the cards. And it’s an extremely minor point but I would bet that Stafford would be happy to come to Los Angeles. He’s very good friends with Clayton Kershaw and he would finally be going to a strong franchise. Plus Los Angeles versus Detroit? I think we know where most players would rather be. RFU Season Ticket Holder by ramsman34 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #208 PARAM liked this post I just don’t get the Stafford thing. He’s a pocket passer and how much better than Goff is he, if at all? If it’s simply getting equal production while saving some $, sure, I get it. But seems like a barely lateral move. 1 by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #209 mike schad 1st rd, moklerman liked this post ramsman34 wrote:I just don’t get the Stafford thing. He’s a pocket passer and how much better than Goff is he, if at all? If it’s simply getting equal production while saving some $, sure, I get it. But seems like a barely lateral move.The conventional wisdom seems to be McVay wants a more mobile QB but i'm not sure i buy it. I think it's very possible McVay just doesn't think Goff is running his offense at level he wants it run, not making the right decisions and/or not quickly enough... RFU Season Ticket Holder 2 by aeneas1 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #210 AvengerRam wrote:Although I'm not convinced that a better option than Goff will present itself, I like the fact that the team leadership is openly acknowledging the offense's shortcomings in 2020 and expressing a commitment to improve. Too often, we get more of a "we're on the right track" or "we just need a tweak here and there" or a "shoot, we'll fix that" message. Looks like the Rams, despite improving from a team that missed the playoffs to a team that was among the final 8, are recognizing that there's significant work to be done to get to the next level.agree, good to see the rams acknowledge what we've all seen, an offense that hasn't been nearly good enough, but everything they've said seems to lay blame at goff's feet, which seems to be underscored by their responses regarding goff's future.... personally i'd like to see a bit more coach ownership in terms of the offensive issues.anyway, it appears that mcvay feels goff is holding him and his offense back, and believes a mobile qb is the answer, which might explain why he (mcvay) spoke so glowingly about wolford's performance (which i thought was pedestrian at best)... and of course selling a switch to a mobile qb, selling it to snead as the future of the league, would be as easy as selling ice to residents of yuma arizona. 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by AvengerRam 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 8921 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #202 TOPIC AUTHOR Well... this offseason isn't going to be boring! by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #203 RFU Season Ticket Holder by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #204 RFU Season Ticket Holder by AvengerRam 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 8921 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #205 TOPIC AUTHOR Although I'm not convinced that a better option than Goff will present itself, I like the fact that the team leadership is openly acknowledging the offense's shortcomings in 2020 and expressing a commitment to improve. Too often, we get more of a "we're on the right track" or "we just need a tweak here and there" or a "shoot, we'll fix that" message. Looks like the Rams, despite improving from a team that missed the playoffs to a team that was among the final 8, are recognizing that there's significant work to be done to get to the next level. by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #206 When you think back to Gurley, the party line was pretty much Gurley is fine, 100%, his usage is situational, coaches decision, has earned vetrans days off, want to keep him fresh for long season including playoff run, etc.And then we cut him.This is a whole different rap from McVay and Snead. Does that mean we're sticking with Goff?Doesn't look good for him from my eyes but who knows. The Rams certainly have a way of doing the unexpected... RFU Season Ticket Holder by Gareth 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1241 Joined: Mar 30 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #207 Elvis wrote:When you think back to Gurley, the party line was pretty much Gurley is fine, 100%, his usage is situational, coaches decision, has earned vetrans days off, want to keep him fresh for long season including playoff run, etc.And then we cut him.This is a whole different rap from McVay and Snead. Does that mean we're sticking with Goff?Doesn't look good for him from my eyes but who knows. The Rams certainly have a way of doing the unexpected...I was thinking about this too. Such an opposite approach from what they’ve done before. One would think that even if they really wanted to move on from Goff, they would say the opposite. Some would say it’s a motivational tactic but I just don’t buy that. I doubt Jared has a problem with motivation plus if anything I think this would just make him bitter.Something tells me that Matt Stafford could be in the cards. And it’s an extremely minor point but I would bet that Stafford would be happy to come to Los Angeles. He’s very good friends with Clayton Kershaw and he would finally be going to a strong franchise. Plus Los Angeles versus Detroit? I think we know where most players would rather be. RFU Season Ticket Holder by ramsman34 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #208 PARAM liked this post I just don’t get the Stafford thing. He’s a pocket passer and how much better than Goff is he, if at all? If it’s simply getting equal production while saving some $, sure, I get it. But seems like a barely lateral move. 1 by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #209 mike schad 1st rd, moklerman liked this post ramsman34 wrote:I just don’t get the Stafford thing. He’s a pocket passer and how much better than Goff is he, if at all? If it’s simply getting equal production while saving some $, sure, I get it. But seems like a barely lateral move.The conventional wisdom seems to be McVay wants a more mobile QB but i'm not sure i buy it. I think it's very possible McVay just doesn't think Goff is running his offense at level he wants it run, not making the right decisions and/or not quickly enough... RFU Season Ticket Holder 2 by aeneas1 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #210 AvengerRam wrote:Although I'm not convinced that a better option than Goff will present itself, I like the fact that the team leadership is openly acknowledging the offense's shortcomings in 2020 and expressing a commitment to improve. Too often, we get more of a "we're on the right track" or "we just need a tweak here and there" or a "shoot, we'll fix that" message. Looks like the Rams, despite improving from a team that missed the playoffs to a team that was among the final 8, are recognizing that there's significant work to be done to get to the next level.agree, good to see the rams acknowledge what we've all seen, an offense that hasn't been nearly good enough, but everything they've said seems to lay blame at goff's feet, which seems to be underscored by their responses regarding goff's future.... personally i'd like to see a bit more coach ownership in terms of the offensive issues.anyway, it appears that mcvay feels goff is holding him and his offense back, and believes a mobile qb is the answer, which might explain why he (mcvay) spoke so glowingly about wolford's performance (which i thought was pedestrian at best)... and of course selling a switch to a mobile qb, selling it to snead as the future of the league, would be as easy as selling ice to residents of yuma arizona. 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by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #203 RFU Season Ticket Holder by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #204 RFU Season Ticket Holder by AvengerRam 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 8921 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #205 TOPIC AUTHOR Although I'm not convinced that a better option than Goff will present itself, I like the fact that the team leadership is openly acknowledging the offense's shortcomings in 2020 and expressing a commitment to improve. Too often, we get more of a "we're on the right track" or "we just need a tweak here and there" or a "shoot, we'll fix that" message. Looks like the Rams, despite improving from a team that missed the playoffs to a team that was among the final 8, are recognizing that there's significant work to be done to get to the next level. by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #206 When you think back to Gurley, the party line was pretty much Gurley is fine, 100%, his usage is situational, coaches decision, has earned vetrans days off, want to keep him fresh for long season including playoff run, etc.And then we cut him.This is a whole different rap from McVay and Snead. Does that mean we're sticking with Goff?Doesn't look good for him from my eyes but who knows. The Rams certainly have a way of doing the unexpected... RFU Season Ticket Holder by Gareth 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1241 Joined: Mar 30 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #207 Elvis wrote:When you think back to Gurley, the party line was pretty much Gurley is fine, 100%, his usage is situational, coaches decision, has earned vetrans days off, want to keep him fresh for long season including playoff run, etc.And then we cut him.This is a whole different rap from McVay and Snead. Does that mean we're sticking with Goff?Doesn't look good for him from my eyes but who knows. The Rams certainly have a way of doing the unexpected...I was thinking about this too. Such an opposite approach from what they’ve done before. One would think that even if they really wanted to move on from Goff, they would say the opposite. Some would say it’s a motivational tactic but I just don’t buy that. I doubt Jared has a problem with motivation plus if anything I think this would just make him bitter.Something tells me that Matt Stafford could be in the cards. And it’s an extremely minor point but I would bet that Stafford would be happy to come to Los Angeles. He’s very good friends with Clayton Kershaw and he would finally be going to a strong franchise. Plus Los Angeles versus Detroit? I think we know where most players would rather be. RFU Season Ticket Holder by ramsman34 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #208 PARAM liked this post I just don’t get the Stafford thing. He’s a pocket passer and how much better than Goff is he, if at all? If it’s simply getting equal production while saving some $, sure, I get it. But seems like a barely lateral move. 1 by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #209 mike schad 1st rd, moklerman liked this post ramsman34 wrote:I just don’t get the Stafford thing. He’s a pocket passer and how much better than Goff is he, if at all? If it’s simply getting equal production while saving some $, sure, I get it. But seems like a barely lateral move.The conventional wisdom seems to be McVay wants a more mobile QB but i'm not sure i buy it. I think it's very possible McVay just doesn't think Goff is running his offense at level he wants it run, not making the right decisions and/or not quickly enough... RFU Season Ticket Holder 2 by aeneas1 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #210 AvengerRam wrote:Although I'm not convinced that a better option than Goff will present itself, I like the fact that the team leadership is openly acknowledging the offense's shortcomings in 2020 and expressing a commitment to improve. Too often, we get more of a "we're on the right track" or "we just need a tweak here and there" or a "shoot, we'll fix that" message. Looks like the Rams, despite improving from a team that missed the playoffs to a team that was among the final 8, are recognizing that there's significant work to be done to get to the next level.agree, good to see the rams acknowledge what we've all seen, an offense that hasn't been nearly good enough, but everything they've said seems to lay blame at goff's feet, which seems to be underscored by their responses regarding goff's future.... personally i'd like to see a bit more coach ownership in terms of the offensive issues.anyway, it appears that mcvay feels goff is holding him and his offense back, and believes a mobile qb is the answer, which might explain why he (mcvay) spoke so glowingly about wolford's performance (which i thought was pedestrian at best)... and of course selling a switch to a mobile qb, selling it to snead as the future of the league, would be as easy as selling ice to residents of yuma arizona. 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by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #204 RFU Season Ticket Holder by AvengerRam 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 8921 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #205 TOPIC AUTHOR Although I'm not convinced that a better option than Goff will present itself, I like the fact that the team leadership is openly acknowledging the offense's shortcomings in 2020 and expressing a commitment to improve. Too often, we get more of a "we're on the right track" or "we just need a tweak here and there" or a "shoot, we'll fix that" message. Looks like the Rams, despite improving from a team that missed the playoffs to a team that was among the final 8, are recognizing that there's significant work to be done to get to the next level. by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #206 When you think back to Gurley, the party line was pretty much Gurley is fine, 100%, his usage is situational, coaches decision, has earned vetrans days off, want to keep him fresh for long season including playoff run, etc.And then we cut him.This is a whole different rap from McVay and Snead. Does that mean we're sticking with Goff?Doesn't look good for him from my eyes but who knows. The Rams certainly have a way of doing the unexpected... RFU Season Ticket Holder by Gareth 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1241 Joined: Mar 30 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #207 Elvis wrote:When you think back to Gurley, the party line was pretty much Gurley is fine, 100%, his usage is situational, coaches decision, has earned vetrans days off, want to keep him fresh for long season including playoff run, etc.And then we cut him.This is a whole different rap from McVay and Snead. Does that mean we're sticking with Goff?Doesn't look good for him from my eyes but who knows. The Rams certainly have a way of doing the unexpected...I was thinking about this too. Such an opposite approach from what they’ve done before. One would think that even if they really wanted to move on from Goff, they would say the opposite. Some would say it’s a motivational tactic but I just don’t buy that. I doubt Jared has a problem with motivation plus if anything I think this would just make him bitter.Something tells me that Matt Stafford could be in the cards. And it’s an extremely minor point but I would bet that Stafford would be happy to come to Los Angeles. He’s very good friends with Clayton Kershaw and he would finally be going to a strong franchise. Plus Los Angeles versus Detroit? I think we know where most players would rather be. RFU Season Ticket Holder by ramsman34 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #208 PARAM liked this post I just don’t get the Stafford thing. He’s a pocket passer and how much better than Goff is he, if at all? If it’s simply getting equal production while saving some $, sure, I get it. But seems like a barely lateral move. 1 by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #209 mike schad 1st rd, moklerman liked this post ramsman34 wrote:I just don’t get the Stafford thing. He’s a pocket passer and how much better than Goff is he, if at all? If it’s simply getting equal production while saving some $, sure, I get it. But seems like a barely lateral move.The conventional wisdom seems to be McVay wants a more mobile QB but i'm not sure i buy it. I think it's very possible McVay just doesn't think Goff is running his offense at level he wants it run, not making the right decisions and/or not quickly enough... RFU Season Ticket Holder 2 by aeneas1 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #210 AvengerRam wrote:Although I'm not convinced that a better option than Goff will present itself, I like the fact that the team leadership is openly acknowledging the offense's shortcomings in 2020 and expressing a commitment to improve. Too often, we get more of a "we're on the right track" or "we just need a tweak here and there" or a "shoot, we'll fix that" message. Looks like the Rams, despite improving from a team that missed the playoffs to a team that was among the final 8, are recognizing that there's significant work to be done to get to the next level.agree, good to see the rams acknowledge what we've all seen, an offense that hasn't been nearly good enough, but everything they've said seems to lay blame at goff's feet, which seems to be underscored by their responses regarding goff's future.... personally i'd like to see a bit more coach ownership in terms of the offensive issues.anyway, it appears that mcvay feels goff is holding him and his offense back, and believes a mobile qb is the answer, which might explain why he (mcvay) spoke so glowingly about wolford's performance (which i thought was pedestrian at best)... and of course selling a switch to a mobile qb, selling it to snead as the future of the league, would be as easy as selling ice to residents of yuma arizona. 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by AvengerRam 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 8921 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #205 TOPIC AUTHOR Although I'm not convinced that a better option than Goff will present itself, I like the fact that the team leadership is openly acknowledging the offense's shortcomings in 2020 and expressing a commitment to improve. Too often, we get more of a "we're on the right track" or "we just need a tweak here and there" or a "shoot, we'll fix that" message. Looks like the Rams, despite improving from a team that missed the playoffs to a team that was among the final 8, are recognizing that there's significant work to be done to get to the next level. by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #206 When you think back to Gurley, the party line was pretty much Gurley is fine, 100%, his usage is situational, coaches decision, has earned vetrans days off, want to keep him fresh for long season including playoff run, etc.And then we cut him.This is a whole different rap from McVay and Snead. Does that mean we're sticking with Goff?Doesn't look good for him from my eyes but who knows. The Rams certainly have a way of doing the unexpected... RFU Season Ticket Holder by Gareth 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1241 Joined: Mar 30 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #207 Elvis wrote:When you think back to Gurley, the party line was pretty much Gurley is fine, 100%, his usage is situational, coaches decision, has earned vetrans days off, want to keep him fresh for long season including playoff run, etc.And then we cut him.This is a whole different rap from McVay and Snead. Does that mean we're sticking with Goff?Doesn't look good for him from my eyes but who knows. The Rams certainly have a way of doing the unexpected...I was thinking about this too. Such an opposite approach from what they’ve done before. One would think that even if they really wanted to move on from Goff, they would say the opposite. Some would say it’s a motivational tactic but I just don’t buy that. I doubt Jared has a problem with motivation plus if anything I think this would just make him bitter.Something tells me that Matt Stafford could be in the cards. And it’s an extremely minor point but I would bet that Stafford would be happy to come to Los Angeles. He’s very good friends with Clayton Kershaw and he would finally be going to a strong franchise. Plus Los Angeles versus Detroit? I think we know where most players would rather be. RFU Season Ticket Holder by ramsman34 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #208 PARAM liked this post I just don’t get the Stafford thing. He’s a pocket passer and how much better than Goff is he, if at all? If it’s simply getting equal production while saving some $, sure, I get it. But seems like a barely lateral move. 1 by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #209 mike schad 1st rd, moklerman liked this post ramsman34 wrote:I just don’t get the Stafford thing. He’s a pocket passer and how much better than Goff is he, if at all? If it’s simply getting equal production while saving some $, sure, I get it. But seems like a barely lateral move.The conventional wisdom seems to be McVay wants a more mobile QB but i'm not sure i buy it. I think it's very possible McVay just doesn't think Goff is running his offense at level he wants it run, not making the right decisions and/or not quickly enough... RFU Season Ticket Holder 2 by aeneas1 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #210 AvengerRam wrote:Although I'm not convinced that a better option than Goff will present itself, I like the fact that the team leadership is openly acknowledging the offense's shortcomings in 2020 and expressing a commitment to improve. Too often, we get more of a "we're on the right track" or "we just need a tweak here and there" or a "shoot, we'll fix that" message. Looks like the Rams, despite improving from a team that missed the playoffs to a team that was among the final 8, are recognizing that there's significant work to be done to get to the next level.agree, good to see the rams acknowledge what we've all seen, an offense that hasn't been nearly good enough, but everything they've said seems to lay blame at goff's feet, which seems to be underscored by their responses regarding goff's future.... personally i'd like to see a bit more coach ownership in terms of the offensive issues.anyway, it appears that mcvay feels goff is holding him and his offense back, and believes a mobile qb is the answer, which might explain why he (mcvay) spoke so glowingly about wolford's performance (which i thought was pedestrian at best)... and of course selling a switch to a mobile qb, selling it to snead as the future of the league, would be as easy as selling ice to residents of yuma arizona. 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by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #206 When you think back to Gurley, the party line was pretty much Gurley is fine, 100%, his usage is situational, coaches decision, has earned vetrans days off, want to keep him fresh for long season including playoff run, etc.And then we cut him.This is a whole different rap from McVay and Snead. Does that mean we're sticking with Goff?Doesn't look good for him from my eyes but who knows. The Rams certainly have a way of doing the unexpected... RFU Season Ticket Holder by Gareth 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1241 Joined: Mar 30 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #207 Elvis wrote:When you think back to Gurley, the party line was pretty much Gurley is fine, 100%, his usage is situational, coaches decision, has earned vetrans days off, want to keep him fresh for long season including playoff run, etc.And then we cut him.This is a whole different rap from McVay and Snead. Does that mean we're sticking with Goff?Doesn't look good for him from my eyes but who knows. The Rams certainly have a way of doing the unexpected...I was thinking about this too. Such an opposite approach from what they’ve done before. One would think that even if they really wanted to move on from Goff, they would say the opposite. Some would say it’s a motivational tactic but I just don’t buy that. I doubt Jared has a problem with motivation plus if anything I think this would just make him bitter.Something tells me that Matt Stafford could be in the cards. And it’s an extremely minor point but I would bet that Stafford would be happy to come to Los Angeles. He’s very good friends with Clayton Kershaw and he would finally be going to a strong franchise. Plus Los Angeles versus Detroit? I think we know where most players would rather be. RFU Season Ticket Holder by ramsman34 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #208 PARAM liked this post I just don’t get the Stafford thing. He’s a pocket passer and how much better than Goff is he, if at all? If it’s simply getting equal production while saving some $, sure, I get it. But seems like a barely lateral move. 1 by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #209 mike schad 1st rd, moklerman liked this post ramsman34 wrote:I just don’t get the Stafford thing. He’s a pocket passer and how much better than Goff is he, if at all? If it’s simply getting equal production while saving some $, sure, I get it. But seems like a barely lateral move.The conventional wisdom seems to be McVay wants a more mobile QB but i'm not sure i buy it. I think it's very possible McVay just doesn't think Goff is running his offense at level he wants it run, not making the right decisions and/or not quickly enough... RFU Season Ticket Holder 2 by aeneas1 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #210 AvengerRam wrote:Although I'm not convinced that a better option than Goff will present itself, I like the fact that the team leadership is openly acknowledging the offense's shortcomings in 2020 and expressing a commitment to improve. Too often, we get more of a "we're on the right track" or "we just need a tweak here and there" or a "shoot, we'll fix that" message. Looks like the Rams, despite improving from a team that missed the playoffs to a team that was among the final 8, are recognizing that there's significant work to be done to get to the next level.agree, good to see the rams acknowledge what we've all seen, an offense that hasn't been nearly good enough, but everything they've said seems to lay blame at goff's feet, which seems to be underscored by their responses regarding goff's future.... personally i'd like to see a bit more coach ownership in terms of the offensive issues.anyway, it appears that mcvay feels goff is holding him and his offense back, and believes a mobile qb is the answer, which might explain why he (mcvay) spoke so glowingly about wolford's performance (which i thought was pedestrian at best)... and of course selling a switch to a mobile qb, selling it to snead as the future of the league, would be as easy as selling ice to residents of yuma arizona. Reply 21 / 30 1 21 30 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 293 posts Jul 11 2025
by Gareth 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1241 Joined: Mar 30 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #207 Elvis wrote:When you think back to Gurley, the party line was pretty much Gurley is fine, 100%, his usage is situational, coaches decision, has earned vetrans days off, want to keep him fresh for long season including playoff run, etc.And then we cut him.This is a whole different rap from McVay and Snead. Does that mean we're sticking with Goff?Doesn't look good for him from my eyes but who knows. The Rams certainly have a way of doing the unexpected...I was thinking about this too. Such an opposite approach from what they’ve done before. One would think that even if they really wanted to move on from Goff, they would say the opposite. Some would say it’s a motivational tactic but I just don’t buy that. I doubt Jared has a problem with motivation plus if anything I think this would just make him bitter.Something tells me that Matt Stafford could be in the cards. And it’s an extremely minor point but I would bet that Stafford would be happy to come to Los Angeles. He’s very good friends with Clayton Kershaw and he would finally be going to a strong franchise. Plus Los Angeles versus Detroit? I think we know where most players would rather be. RFU Season Ticket Holder by ramsman34 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #208 PARAM liked this post I just don’t get the Stafford thing. He’s a pocket passer and how much better than Goff is he, if at all? If it’s simply getting equal production while saving some $, sure, I get it. But seems like a barely lateral move. 1 by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #209 mike schad 1st rd, moklerman liked this post ramsman34 wrote:I just don’t get the Stafford thing. He’s a pocket passer and how much better than Goff is he, if at all? If it’s simply getting equal production while saving some $, sure, I get it. But seems like a barely lateral move.The conventional wisdom seems to be McVay wants a more mobile QB but i'm not sure i buy it. I think it's very possible McVay just doesn't think Goff is running his offense at level he wants it run, not making the right decisions and/or not quickly enough... RFU Season Ticket Holder 2 by aeneas1 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #210 AvengerRam wrote:Although I'm not convinced that a better option than Goff will present itself, I like the fact that the team leadership is openly acknowledging the offense's shortcomings in 2020 and expressing a commitment to improve. Too often, we get more of a "we're on the right track" or "we just need a tweak here and there" or a "shoot, we'll fix that" message. Looks like the Rams, despite improving from a team that missed the playoffs to a team that was among the final 8, are recognizing that there's significant work to be done to get to the next level.agree, good to see the rams acknowledge what we've all seen, an offense that hasn't been nearly good enough, but everything they've said seems to lay blame at goff's feet, which seems to be underscored by their responses regarding goff's future.... personally i'd like to see a bit more coach ownership in terms of the offensive issues.anyway, it appears that mcvay feels goff is holding him and his offense back, and believes a mobile qb is the answer, which might explain why he (mcvay) spoke so glowingly about wolford's performance (which i thought was pedestrian at best)... and of course selling a switch to a mobile qb, selling it to snead as the future of the league, would be as easy as selling ice to residents of yuma arizona. Reply 21 / 30 1 21 30 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 293 posts Jul 11 2025
by ramsman34 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #208 PARAM liked this post I just don’t get the Stafford thing. He’s a pocket passer and how much better than Goff is he, if at all? If it’s simply getting equal production while saving some $, sure, I get it. But seems like a barely lateral move. 1 by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #209 mike schad 1st rd, moklerman liked this post ramsman34 wrote:I just don’t get the Stafford thing. He’s a pocket passer and how much better than Goff is he, if at all? If it’s simply getting equal production while saving some $, sure, I get it. But seems like a barely lateral move.The conventional wisdom seems to be McVay wants a more mobile QB but i'm not sure i buy it. I think it's very possible McVay just doesn't think Goff is running his offense at level he wants it run, not making the right decisions and/or not quickly enough... RFU Season Ticket Holder 2 by aeneas1 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #210 AvengerRam wrote:Although I'm not convinced that a better option than Goff will present itself, I like the fact that the team leadership is openly acknowledging the offense's shortcomings in 2020 and expressing a commitment to improve. Too often, we get more of a "we're on the right track" or "we just need a tweak here and there" or a "shoot, we'll fix that" message. Looks like the Rams, despite improving from a team that missed the playoffs to a team that was among the final 8, are recognizing that there's significant work to be done to get to the next level.agree, good to see the rams acknowledge what we've all seen, an offense that hasn't been nearly good enough, but everything they've said seems to lay blame at goff's feet, which seems to be underscored by their responses regarding goff's future.... personally i'd like to see a bit more coach ownership in terms of the offensive issues.anyway, it appears that mcvay feels goff is holding him and his offense back, and believes a mobile qb is the answer, which might explain why he (mcvay) spoke so glowingly about wolford's performance (which i thought was pedestrian at best)... and of course selling a switch to a mobile qb, selling it to snead as the future of the league, would be as easy as selling ice to residents of yuma arizona. Reply 21 / 30 1 21 30 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 293 posts Jul 11 2025
by Elvis 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #209 mike schad 1st rd, moklerman liked this post ramsman34 wrote:I just don’t get the Stafford thing. He’s a pocket passer and how much better than Goff is he, if at all? If it’s simply getting equal production while saving some $, sure, I get it. But seems like a barely lateral move.The conventional wisdom seems to be McVay wants a more mobile QB but i'm not sure i buy it. I think it's very possible McVay just doesn't think Goff is running his offense at level he wants it run, not making the right decisions and/or not quickly enough... RFU Season Ticket Holder 2 by aeneas1 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #210 AvengerRam wrote:Although I'm not convinced that a better option than Goff will present itself, I like the fact that the team leadership is openly acknowledging the offense's shortcomings in 2020 and expressing a commitment to improve. Too often, we get more of a "we're on the right track" or "we just need a tweak here and there" or a "shoot, we'll fix that" message. Looks like the Rams, despite improving from a team that missed the playoffs to a team that was among the final 8, are recognizing that there's significant work to be done to get to the next level.agree, good to see the rams acknowledge what we've all seen, an offense that hasn't been nearly good enough, but everything they've said seems to lay blame at goff's feet, which seems to be underscored by their responses regarding goff's future.... personally i'd like to see a bit more coach ownership in terms of the offensive issues.anyway, it appears that mcvay feels goff is holding him and his offense back, and believes a mobile qb is the answer, which might explain why he (mcvay) spoke so glowingly about wolford's performance (which i thought was pedestrian at best)... and of course selling a switch to a mobile qb, selling it to snead as the future of the league, would be as easy as selling ice to residents of yuma arizona. Reply 21 / 30 1 21 30 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 293 posts Jul 11 2025
by aeneas1 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Had enough of Goff? Tell us your plan. POST #210 AvengerRam wrote:Although I'm not convinced that a better option than Goff will present itself, I like the fact that the team leadership is openly acknowledging the offense's shortcomings in 2020 and expressing a commitment to improve. Too often, we get more of a "we're on the right track" or "we just need a tweak here and there" or a "shoot, we'll fix that" message. Looks like the Rams, despite improving from a team that missed the playoffs to a team that was among the final 8, are recognizing that there's significant work to be done to get to the next level.agree, good to see the rams acknowledge what we've all seen, an offense that hasn't been nearly good enough, but everything they've said seems to lay blame at goff's feet, which seems to be underscored by their responses regarding goff's future.... personally i'd like to see a bit more coach ownership in terms of the offensive issues.anyway, it appears that mcvay feels goff is holding him and his offense back, and believes a mobile qb is the answer, which might explain why he (mcvay) spoke so glowingly about wolford's performance (which i thought was pedestrian at best)... and of course selling a switch to a mobile qb, selling it to snead as the future of the league, would be as easy as selling ice to residents of yuma arizona. Reply 21 / 30 1 21 30 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business