[Hacksaw]

Neither are in a strong position for negotiations.

[Jacksnowfan]

wow, the negativity in here is thick!!! I know we need some change with our offence but geez cheer up guys!!

[Hacksaw]

jack, I get what you're saying but,, trying to get excited about a guy who was out of the game and 34 y/o coming in and lighting it up, is going to be met with some skepticism.
He had some great years in NE and was decent in Mia and Den. but he was much younger and didn't have that bell ringing going on.
I hope his head is clear and he's 80% of what he was. The more guys making plays, the more plays are being made. He may not be our #1 and #2 is better then this Rams fan expects,, but he will make some plays. And he might just surprise!

[OldSchool]

Gotta be honest, I'm fearful for this guys health. Reports were, though I'm sure greatly exagerated, that he was one hit away from being a vegetable.

[dieterbrock]

Can't get excited either. Worried for the guys health and though he becomes our best receiver I don't know who will grow from his addition.
Marquez maybe?

[snackdaddy]

I'm not naive enough to think he'll make that much of a difference. 34 years old. Joining the team in mid season. Its a bandaid to slow the bleeding but there are other wounds that need tending to.

[Jacksnowfan]

Its not the negativity about the Welker signing, I'm not very excited about his signing either, its just in general, everyone down on Fisher. Yea his style of football isn't exciting, but it worked for Seattle and San Fran. If the receivers make some catches things would have been different. Also the two point conversion that failed, as far as Fisher playing with fear, I don't get that, when Fisher takes a chance and pulls it off, we call him a gambler, when he takes a chance and fails we say he's playing in fear. I'm frustrated with our receivers more then I am with our head coach. Would have liked to see the Rams make a trade last week for one.

[Hacksaw]

Its not the negativity about the Welker signing, I'm not very excited about his signing either, its just in general, everyone down on Fisher. Yea his style of football isn't exciting, but it worked for Seattle and San Fran. If the receivers make some catches things would have been different. Also the two point conversion that failed, as far as Fisher playing with fear, I don't get that, when Fisher takes a chance and pulls it off, we call him a gambler, when he takes a chance and fails we say he's playing in fear. I'm frustrated with our receivers more then I am with our head coach. Would have liked to see the Rams make a trade last week for one.

I'm in the Rams WR's cant get open camp. Could be design or it could be the WR's. How many times has BQ's number been called? Britt and Cook have terminal droposis. Same receivers different OC/QB = WR's imo. If there weren't so many combinations of things this game would be easy.
Fisher is not a high fly offensive minded guy first. He's smash mouth, furious and hit 'em hard. He like's to cram the ball down opponents throats and this team is built to do just that. But I can see the iss poor passing game and it's easy to say it's on Fisher. Either talent evaluation or scheme, it's on him.

He likes the D to intimidate. That side of the ball is just about complete (when healthy) and I don't think Fish likes to leave them out on the field more that necessary. Doesn't want to burn them out. A fast scoring O puts more pressure on the D. So as much as it seems he' not into a high flying offense I think he has it dialed in to where he wants it. If the WR's would catch the ball or get open it might help Fishers cause.

I may be in the minority here but unless you can bring in someone with a pedigree of winning, like a Billacheat , who would give us a better leader with more experience than Fisher?

We Rams fans are more than tired of losing. Many of us older Rams fans remember a lot of heartbreaks but also a lot of winning. We want that again. And after 10 years (1/2 the time the team has been on loan to StL) they have been worse than any team in history. So I totally get the frustration and wanting to fix it now. Fish is the head so that's where everyone looks first. But as you said, a few catches and the W-L record might look a whole lot different.

Let's hope Wes can make few amazing plays for us. We need more than Austin and Gurley to have a chance.

[Jacksnowfan]

I agree 100% Hacksaw, maybe Welker will mean a few more 1st downs per game, lets hope, as a fan since 1965 I have suffered thru the good and the bad, some good is due!!

[moklerman]

Its not the negativity about the Welker signing, I'm not very excited about his signing either, its just in general, everyone down on Fisher. Yea his style of football isn't exciting, but it worked for Seattle and San Fran. If the receivers make some catches things would have been different. Also the two point conversion that failed, as far as Fisher playing with fear, I don't get that, when Fisher takes a chance and pulls it off, we call him a gambler, when he takes a chance and fails we say he's playing in fear. I'm frustrated with our receivers more then I am with our head coach. Would have liked to see the Rams make a trade last week for one.

If the Rams were really serious about the WR position you're right, they should have done something about it at the trade deadline. So, this isn't about improving the WR corps it's about replacing Bailey. Who doesn't get used anyway.

As far as this approach "working" for Seattle and SF, I wonder how long that can be said? Take the stud RB away and the system seems to crumble. Not to mention having an athletic QB playing for peanuts against the salary cap. I can't even give Snisher credit for trying to emulate SF/SEA because they went with a lumbering, non-athletic QB. They should have been going after Tyrod Taylor or someone like that. They had Hundley from UCLA sitting there in the draft who would have been perfect.

As far as the 2 point try, it's about wisdom not fearlessness. When you want Fisher to just take the points, he gets cute. When you want him to get aggressive, he gets conservative. Sometimes, he gets ballsy at the right time but overall, he's just about the most conservative coach in the league. On offense, he's what...1/4 in picking RB's in the draft. WR? 0/4. QB?

If he and Williams want to keep working with the defense I'm fine with that but he needs to be stripped of any involvement with the offense and a coach with some experience and respect needs to be given control of that side of the ball.