[moklerman]

Just hire the right OC and get a stud WR and whalla..
gotta agree with 84. Slicker sledding with Warner13 under center.

Whisenhunt's taking a lot of deserved heat right now but I do think he deserves credit for pushing Warner to take care of the ball better. Not just with the fumbles either.

Right.
Its not like Warner helped Coughlin or Dennis Green any

Warner's time in NYG would have been so interesting if he'd had the gloves and a couple of healthy receivers. Barber was out of his mind at that point and really tearing it up.

[Stranger]

All I'm saying is that we've got an OC with little to no experience at the position, a QB coach with no NFL coaching experience a running game coach with little resume.
Wouldnt hurt to get a "consultant" in to give some fresh eyes. Let's face it, all we are looking at is a watered down version of an ofense that was terrible in the first place

Why won't, or Why can't Fisher hire a senior proven OC?

[RedAlice]

I don't want Wiz. I don't want anyone messing with our current team.

I do want Fisher to agree to hire an Offensive mind - as he is not one himself. But, it will have to be one that Fisher respects and wants to hand over "control" to. He will never let go of his team.

[Elvis]

Supposedly Fisher would've hired Norv Turner if he'd been available.

That probably would've worked out pretty well. Norv is old school enough to suit Fisher but good enough and established to be allowed to run his offense his way. Norv is also good with QB's.

But there probably aren't a lot of guys Fisher would trust enough to do their own thing and who would be good at what they do...

[RedAlice]

As a San Diego girl and Charger softy - I so wanted Norv fired as their HC and immediately hired as my OC!!!

Norv to us would be PERFECT. Stupid Vikings. LA has better weather like San Diego....maybe we can lure him for next year?

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total nothing: my guy has ended up sitting by Norv twice on planes recently. Every time he texts me that, I say: ask him if he wans to be OC for the Rams. But, Norv puts his headphones on and is not social.

[Hacksaw_64]

Why in the world would you guys want to set the offense back another year with an entirely new scheme/playbook to learn? What our young offense needs is practice and CONTINUITY plus some more guys that can execute plays(block,get open/catch the football). Go with what we got now and make and evaluation in the offseason.

[RedAlice]

Why in the world would you guys want to set the offense back another year with an entirely new scheme/playbook to learn? What our young offense needs is practice and CONTINUITY plus some more guys that can execute plays(block,get open/catch the football). Go with what we got now and make and evaluation in the offseason.

that's all we got right now. You have to have a deep belief in Fisher as an Offensive guy though if you want no change. I can respect it, even if I don't agree with it.

For this year, just go. What we have is it.

[moklerman]

Why in the world would you guys want to set the offense back another year with an entirely new scheme/playbook to learn? What our young offense needs is practice and CONTINUITY plus some more guys that can execute plays(block,get open/catch the football). Go with what we got now and make and evaluation in the offseason.

Set it back? It seems the only thing going for it is Gurley so it's not like that part of things would suffer. The passing game is non-existent and that will be a problem at some point. Maybe it's just a matter of replacing Cook and Britt but that doesn't seem likely considering Fisher's ties to them.

[Hacksaw_64]

Why in the world would you guys want to set the offense back another year with an entirely new scheme/playbook to learn? What our young offense needs is practice and CONTINUITY plus some more guys that can execute plays(block,get open/catch the football). Go with what we got now and make and evaluation in the offseason.

Set it back? It seems the only thing going for it is Gurley so it's not like that part of things would suffer. The passing game is non-existent and that will be a problem at some point. Maybe it's just a matter of replacing Cook and Britt but that doesn't seem likely considering Fisher's ties to them.

Yes, set it back. Have you considered the time it takes to learn an entirely new offense? The blocking scheme, the route progressions, the timing on the throws? It's not like Madden and your team magically can run a new offense. Unreal.

[Stranger]

I do want Fisher to agree to hire an Offensive mind - as he is not one himself. But, it will have to be one that Fisher respects and wants to hand over "control" to. He will never let go of his team.

I am now convinced that Fisher will never "hand over control to" a senior offensive mind, as he has done with our DC, unless he is forced to by ownership or management.

Fisher's stubberness to do so has what's resulted in my loss of respect for him. I like people with strong enough ego's to admit when they need help, and to seek out such help. In 20yrs as a HC, he has had a competent OC for probably only 3-4 of those years. There is something deeply disturbing about this, especially given that Fisher is admittedly a defensive minded coach.