by SWAdude 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 2450 Joined: Sep 21 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #21 BuiltRamTough liked this post BuiltRamTough wrote:That's fine but they left the door open for Spanos. So now the owners want to moan and groan about Spanos?The owners knew it was a long shot getting Cali to approve tax funds but they played the leverage game anyway.Can't disagree with you.Politics is full of hypocrisy. 1 by Elvis 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41553 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #22 TOPIC AUTHOR And Goodell was at the thing in Inglewood, so many angles to consider... RFU Season Ticket Holder by Downey2Oside 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 19 Joined: Jan 15 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #23 Elvis wrote:These are still interesting times.Glad i'm not a SD Chargers fan, must be gut wrenching...I loved the Chargers had 2nd row seats on the goal line. Saddest thing I saw a kid that has grown up around my section. He was around 7 or 8 yrs old when his grandma made signs with him to hold and get on TV. He has gloves and autographs from almost every good player. The reporters and photogs would bring him things.Now He's not a fan and he's 15, The Spanos family has alienated a couple generations of fans. Like Georgia did to Rams fans like me.The kids grandfather ran track in Texas (the mile) and knew Eric Dickerson from track meets in high school. They won't be buying season tickets but they will watch Rams games on TV. by Downey2Oside 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 19 Joined: Jan 15 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #24 http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/spo ... ent=safariThis article was from last week--"“I talked to Commissioner Goodell a lot during the past month,” Mayor Kevin Faulconer says. “He was disappointed in the outcome.”But powerless to stop it, obviously. Roger’s bosses didn’t want this to happen, but I have it on good authority they grew sick of Spanos’ whining, and, also, while realizing Rams boss Stan Kroenke can’t stand Dean (and vice versa), pleaded with Stan, who needs Dean like he needs another billion, to just let the Chargers into his Inglewood digs and have done with it (without giving Dean more money). by LA_Ram_#29 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 103 Joined: Nov 11 2015 LA Coliseum Practice Squad Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #25 playing NFL games in a 30,000k stadium would be embarrassing .... San Diego is where the Chargers fans are...that's where they should be..if the Owners want to keep San Diego..they're going to have to give Spanos a lot of help to build a stadium there. RFU Season Ticket Holder by SWAdude 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 2450 Joined: Sep 21 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #26 LA_Ram_#29 wrote:playing NFL games in a 30,000k stadium would be embarrassing .... San Diego is where the Chargers fans are...that's where they should be..if the Owners want to keep San Diego..they're going to have to give Spanos a lot of help to build a stadium there.My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference. by Downey2Oside 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 19 Joined: Jan 15 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #27 RedAlice, SWAdude liked this post SWAdude wrote:My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference.Let's be real. Dean couldn't even design or decide on a decent logo Los Angeles or sports fans could accept. Spanos is a big reason that Qualcomm is delapitated he was supposed to pay for upkeep and upgrades since its remodel.There is no possibility that Dean is capable of having a stadium built. Alex Spanos was the builder, the kids are just the heirs to his hard work.... Allegedly 2 by Rams the Legends live on 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #28 SWAdude liked this post SWAdude wrote:My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference.Yea I agree this is about a stadium someone else pays for be it SD or LA . However I don't believe he would move to LA and then look to have his own stadium. Perhaps some years or decades down the road this is viable. For the immediate though he is gonna be forking over half a billion to three quarters of a billion give or take whatever he makes from his psl's sales, for ownership in a being built state of the art stadium.I would also if I was Stan drop the one dollar a year rent. I would do a strait line fiscal responsibility based upon the limits or percentages of the partnership or ownership.Reason I say this is down the road if Spanos doesn't see the returns he expects he could with smart counsel end up making Stan pay for his liabilities. There are rights and obligations our courts will uphold in a contract and there are rights and obligations our courts will uphold in a lessor/lessee relationship. The waters are gonna be murky here so if I was Stan I would pick one or the other and not a hybrid of both as he could find himself in court in a short period of years and on the losing end of the stick seeing his own dream becoming a nightmare.If he does go with a hybrid I would make sure I have plenty waiver of rights added in the contract for Spanos to sign. Otherwise this could become real ugly fast and leave the NFL having to solve a problem of unintended consequence. 1 by St. Loser Fan 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10899 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #29 BuiltRamTough and 1 others liked this post LA_Ram_#29 wrote:San Diego is where the Chargers fans are...that's where they should be..That thinking does no good. Didn't stop the Rams from leaving LA, the Rams from leaving St. Louis and now the Raiders leaving Oakland. What the fans want is irrelevant. 2 by St. Loser Fan 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10899 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #30 If the owners are really angry, it's probably jealousy that a (bleep) up like Spanos is going to see his team's net worth double and play in a great new stadium while their teams stay the same and are stuck playing in 10 year old dumpy stadiums. Reply 3 / 5 1 3 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 43 posts Jul 23 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Elvis 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 41553 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #22 TOPIC AUTHOR And Goodell was at the thing in Inglewood, so many angles to consider... RFU Season Ticket Holder by Downey2Oside 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 19 Joined: Jan 15 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #23 Elvis wrote:These are still interesting times.Glad i'm not a SD Chargers fan, must be gut wrenching...I loved the Chargers had 2nd row seats on the goal line. Saddest thing I saw a kid that has grown up around my section. He was around 7 or 8 yrs old when his grandma made signs with him to hold and get on TV. He has gloves and autographs from almost every good player. The reporters and photogs would bring him things.Now He's not a fan and he's 15, The Spanos family has alienated a couple generations of fans. Like Georgia did to Rams fans like me.The kids grandfather ran track in Texas (the mile) and knew Eric Dickerson from track meets in high school. They won't be buying season tickets but they will watch Rams games on TV. by Downey2Oside 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 19 Joined: Jan 15 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #24 http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/spo ... ent=safariThis article was from last week--"“I talked to Commissioner Goodell a lot during the past month,” Mayor Kevin Faulconer says. “He was disappointed in the outcome.”But powerless to stop it, obviously. Roger’s bosses didn’t want this to happen, but I have it on good authority they grew sick of Spanos’ whining, and, also, while realizing Rams boss Stan Kroenke can’t stand Dean (and vice versa), pleaded with Stan, who needs Dean like he needs another billion, to just let the Chargers into his Inglewood digs and have done with it (without giving Dean more money). by LA_Ram_#29 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 103 Joined: Nov 11 2015 LA Coliseum Practice Squad Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #25 playing NFL games in a 30,000k stadium would be embarrassing .... San Diego is where the Chargers fans are...that's where they should be..if the Owners want to keep San Diego..they're going to have to give Spanos a lot of help to build a stadium there. RFU Season Ticket Holder by SWAdude 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 2450 Joined: Sep 21 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #26 LA_Ram_#29 wrote:playing NFL games in a 30,000k stadium would be embarrassing .... San Diego is where the Chargers fans are...that's where they should be..if the Owners want to keep San Diego..they're going to have to give Spanos a lot of help to build a stadium there.My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference. by Downey2Oside 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 19 Joined: Jan 15 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #27 RedAlice, SWAdude liked this post SWAdude wrote:My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference.Let's be real. Dean couldn't even design or decide on a decent logo Los Angeles or sports fans could accept. Spanos is a big reason that Qualcomm is delapitated he was supposed to pay for upkeep and upgrades since its remodel.There is no possibility that Dean is capable of having a stadium built. Alex Spanos was the builder, the kids are just the heirs to his hard work.... Allegedly 2 by Rams the Legends live on 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #28 SWAdude liked this post SWAdude wrote:My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference.Yea I agree this is about a stadium someone else pays for be it SD or LA . However I don't believe he would move to LA and then look to have his own stadium. Perhaps some years or decades down the road this is viable. For the immediate though he is gonna be forking over half a billion to three quarters of a billion give or take whatever he makes from his psl's sales, for ownership in a being built state of the art stadium.I would also if I was Stan drop the one dollar a year rent. I would do a strait line fiscal responsibility based upon the limits or percentages of the partnership or ownership.Reason I say this is down the road if Spanos doesn't see the returns he expects he could with smart counsel end up making Stan pay for his liabilities. There are rights and obligations our courts will uphold in a contract and there are rights and obligations our courts will uphold in a lessor/lessee relationship. The waters are gonna be murky here so if I was Stan I would pick one or the other and not a hybrid of both as he could find himself in court in a short period of years and on the losing end of the stick seeing his own dream becoming a nightmare.If he does go with a hybrid I would make sure I have plenty waiver of rights added in the contract for Spanos to sign. Otherwise this could become real ugly fast and leave the NFL having to solve a problem of unintended consequence. 1 by St. Loser Fan 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10899 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #29 BuiltRamTough and 1 others liked this post LA_Ram_#29 wrote:San Diego is where the Chargers fans are...that's where they should be..That thinking does no good. Didn't stop the Rams from leaving LA, the Rams from leaving St. Louis and now the Raiders leaving Oakland. What the fans want is irrelevant. 2 by St. Loser Fan 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10899 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #30 If the owners are really angry, it's probably jealousy that a (bleep) up like Spanos is going to see his team's net worth double and play in a great new stadium while their teams stay the same and are stuck playing in 10 year old dumpy stadiums. Reply 3 / 5 1 3 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 43 posts Jul 23 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Downey2Oside 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 19 Joined: Jan 15 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #23 Elvis wrote:These are still interesting times.Glad i'm not a SD Chargers fan, must be gut wrenching...I loved the Chargers had 2nd row seats on the goal line. Saddest thing I saw a kid that has grown up around my section. He was around 7 or 8 yrs old when his grandma made signs with him to hold and get on TV. He has gloves and autographs from almost every good player. The reporters and photogs would bring him things.Now He's not a fan and he's 15, The Spanos family has alienated a couple generations of fans. Like Georgia did to Rams fans like me.The kids grandfather ran track in Texas (the mile) and knew Eric Dickerson from track meets in high school. They won't be buying season tickets but they will watch Rams games on TV. by Downey2Oside 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 19 Joined: Jan 15 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #24 http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/spo ... ent=safariThis article was from last week--"“I talked to Commissioner Goodell a lot during the past month,” Mayor Kevin Faulconer says. “He was disappointed in the outcome.”But powerless to stop it, obviously. Roger’s bosses didn’t want this to happen, but I have it on good authority they grew sick of Spanos’ whining, and, also, while realizing Rams boss Stan Kroenke can’t stand Dean (and vice versa), pleaded with Stan, who needs Dean like he needs another billion, to just let the Chargers into his Inglewood digs and have done with it (without giving Dean more money). by LA_Ram_#29 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 103 Joined: Nov 11 2015 LA Coliseum Practice Squad Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #25 playing NFL games in a 30,000k stadium would be embarrassing .... San Diego is where the Chargers fans are...that's where they should be..if the Owners want to keep San Diego..they're going to have to give Spanos a lot of help to build a stadium there. RFU Season Ticket Holder by SWAdude 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 2450 Joined: Sep 21 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #26 LA_Ram_#29 wrote:playing NFL games in a 30,000k stadium would be embarrassing .... San Diego is where the Chargers fans are...that's where they should be..if the Owners want to keep San Diego..they're going to have to give Spanos a lot of help to build a stadium there.My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference. by Downey2Oside 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 19 Joined: Jan 15 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #27 RedAlice, SWAdude liked this post SWAdude wrote:My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference.Let's be real. Dean couldn't even design or decide on a decent logo Los Angeles or sports fans could accept. Spanos is a big reason that Qualcomm is delapitated he was supposed to pay for upkeep and upgrades since its remodel.There is no possibility that Dean is capable of having a stadium built. Alex Spanos was the builder, the kids are just the heirs to his hard work.... Allegedly 2 by Rams the Legends live on 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #28 SWAdude liked this post SWAdude wrote:My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference.Yea I agree this is about a stadium someone else pays for be it SD or LA . However I don't believe he would move to LA and then look to have his own stadium. Perhaps some years or decades down the road this is viable. For the immediate though he is gonna be forking over half a billion to three quarters of a billion give or take whatever he makes from his psl's sales, for ownership in a being built state of the art stadium.I would also if I was Stan drop the one dollar a year rent. I would do a strait line fiscal responsibility based upon the limits or percentages of the partnership or ownership.Reason I say this is down the road if Spanos doesn't see the returns he expects he could with smart counsel end up making Stan pay for his liabilities. There are rights and obligations our courts will uphold in a contract and there are rights and obligations our courts will uphold in a lessor/lessee relationship. The waters are gonna be murky here so if I was Stan I would pick one or the other and not a hybrid of both as he could find himself in court in a short period of years and on the losing end of the stick seeing his own dream becoming a nightmare.If he does go with a hybrid I would make sure I have plenty waiver of rights added in the contract for Spanos to sign. Otherwise this could become real ugly fast and leave the NFL having to solve a problem of unintended consequence. 1 by St. Loser Fan 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10899 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #29 BuiltRamTough and 1 others liked this post LA_Ram_#29 wrote:San Diego is where the Chargers fans are...that's where they should be..That thinking does no good. Didn't stop the Rams from leaving LA, the Rams from leaving St. Louis and now the Raiders leaving Oakland. What the fans want is irrelevant. 2 by St. Loser Fan 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10899 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #30 If the owners are really angry, it's probably jealousy that a (bleep) up like Spanos is going to see his team's net worth double and play in a great new stadium while their teams stay the same and are stuck playing in 10 year old dumpy stadiums. Reply 3 / 5 1 3 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 43 posts Jul 23 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Downey2Oside 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 19 Joined: Jan 15 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #24 http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/spo ... ent=safariThis article was from last week--"“I talked to Commissioner Goodell a lot during the past month,” Mayor Kevin Faulconer says. “He was disappointed in the outcome.”But powerless to stop it, obviously. Roger’s bosses didn’t want this to happen, but I have it on good authority they grew sick of Spanos’ whining, and, also, while realizing Rams boss Stan Kroenke can’t stand Dean (and vice versa), pleaded with Stan, who needs Dean like he needs another billion, to just let the Chargers into his Inglewood digs and have done with it (without giving Dean more money). by LA_Ram_#29 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 103 Joined: Nov 11 2015 LA Coliseum Practice Squad Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #25 playing NFL games in a 30,000k stadium would be embarrassing .... San Diego is where the Chargers fans are...that's where they should be..if the Owners want to keep San Diego..they're going to have to give Spanos a lot of help to build a stadium there. RFU Season Ticket Holder by SWAdude 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 2450 Joined: Sep 21 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #26 LA_Ram_#29 wrote:playing NFL games in a 30,000k stadium would be embarrassing .... San Diego is where the Chargers fans are...that's where they should be..if the Owners want to keep San Diego..they're going to have to give Spanos a lot of help to build a stadium there.My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference. by Downey2Oside 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 19 Joined: Jan 15 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #27 RedAlice, SWAdude liked this post SWAdude wrote:My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference.Let's be real. Dean couldn't even design or decide on a decent logo Los Angeles or sports fans could accept. Spanos is a big reason that Qualcomm is delapitated he was supposed to pay for upkeep and upgrades since its remodel.There is no possibility that Dean is capable of having a stadium built. Alex Spanos was the builder, the kids are just the heirs to his hard work.... Allegedly 2 by Rams the Legends live on 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #28 SWAdude liked this post SWAdude wrote:My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference.Yea I agree this is about a stadium someone else pays for be it SD or LA . However I don't believe he would move to LA and then look to have his own stadium. Perhaps some years or decades down the road this is viable. For the immediate though he is gonna be forking over half a billion to three quarters of a billion give or take whatever he makes from his psl's sales, for ownership in a being built state of the art stadium.I would also if I was Stan drop the one dollar a year rent. I would do a strait line fiscal responsibility based upon the limits or percentages of the partnership or ownership.Reason I say this is down the road if Spanos doesn't see the returns he expects he could with smart counsel end up making Stan pay for his liabilities. There are rights and obligations our courts will uphold in a contract and there are rights and obligations our courts will uphold in a lessor/lessee relationship. The waters are gonna be murky here so if I was Stan I would pick one or the other and not a hybrid of both as he could find himself in court in a short period of years and on the losing end of the stick seeing his own dream becoming a nightmare.If he does go with a hybrid I would make sure I have plenty waiver of rights added in the contract for Spanos to sign. Otherwise this could become real ugly fast and leave the NFL having to solve a problem of unintended consequence. 1 by St. Loser Fan 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10899 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #29 BuiltRamTough and 1 others liked this post LA_Ram_#29 wrote:San Diego is where the Chargers fans are...that's where they should be..That thinking does no good. Didn't stop the Rams from leaving LA, the Rams from leaving St. Louis and now the Raiders leaving Oakland. What the fans want is irrelevant. 2 by St. Loser Fan 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10899 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #30 If the owners are really angry, it's probably jealousy that a (bleep) up like Spanos is going to see his team's net worth double and play in a great new stadium while their teams stay the same and are stuck playing in 10 year old dumpy stadiums. Reply 3 / 5 1 3 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 43 posts Jul 23 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by LA_Ram_#29 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 103 Joined: Nov 11 2015 LA Coliseum Practice Squad Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #25 playing NFL games in a 30,000k stadium would be embarrassing .... San Diego is where the Chargers fans are...that's where they should be..if the Owners want to keep San Diego..they're going to have to give Spanos a lot of help to build a stadium there. RFU Season Ticket Holder by SWAdude 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 2450 Joined: Sep 21 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #26 LA_Ram_#29 wrote:playing NFL games in a 30,000k stadium would be embarrassing .... San Diego is where the Chargers fans are...that's where they should be..if the Owners want to keep San Diego..they're going to have to give Spanos a lot of help to build a stadium there.My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference. by Downey2Oside 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 19 Joined: Jan 15 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #27 RedAlice, SWAdude liked this post SWAdude wrote:My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference.Let's be real. Dean couldn't even design or decide on a decent logo Los Angeles or sports fans could accept. Spanos is a big reason that Qualcomm is delapitated he was supposed to pay for upkeep and upgrades since its remodel.There is no possibility that Dean is capable of having a stadium built. Alex Spanos was the builder, the kids are just the heirs to his hard work.... Allegedly 2 by Rams the Legends live on 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #28 SWAdude liked this post SWAdude wrote:My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference.Yea I agree this is about a stadium someone else pays for be it SD or LA . However I don't believe he would move to LA and then look to have his own stadium. Perhaps some years or decades down the road this is viable. For the immediate though he is gonna be forking over half a billion to three quarters of a billion give or take whatever he makes from his psl's sales, for ownership in a being built state of the art stadium.I would also if I was Stan drop the one dollar a year rent. I would do a strait line fiscal responsibility based upon the limits or percentages of the partnership or ownership.Reason I say this is down the road if Spanos doesn't see the returns he expects he could with smart counsel end up making Stan pay for his liabilities. There are rights and obligations our courts will uphold in a contract and there are rights and obligations our courts will uphold in a lessor/lessee relationship. The waters are gonna be murky here so if I was Stan I would pick one or the other and not a hybrid of both as he could find himself in court in a short period of years and on the losing end of the stick seeing his own dream becoming a nightmare.If he does go with a hybrid I would make sure I have plenty waiver of rights added in the contract for Spanos to sign. Otherwise this could become real ugly fast and leave the NFL having to solve a problem of unintended consequence. 1 by St. Loser Fan 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10899 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #29 BuiltRamTough and 1 others liked this post LA_Ram_#29 wrote:San Diego is where the Chargers fans are...that's where they should be..That thinking does no good. Didn't stop the Rams from leaving LA, the Rams from leaving St. Louis and now the Raiders leaving Oakland. What the fans want is irrelevant. 2 by St. Loser Fan 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10899 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #30 If the owners are really angry, it's probably jealousy that a (bleep) up like Spanos is going to see his team's net worth double and play in a great new stadium while their teams stay the same and are stuck playing in 10 year old dumpy stadiums. Reply 3 / 5 1 3 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 43 posts Jul 23 2025
by SWAdude 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 2450 Joined: Sep 21 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #26 LA_Ram_#29 wrote:playing NFL games in a 30,000k stadium would be embarrassing .... San Diego is where the Chargers fans are...that's where they should be..if the Owners want to keep San Diego..they're going to have to give Spanos a lot of help to build a stadium there.My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference. by Downey2Oside 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 19 Joined: Jan 15 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #27 RedAlice, SWAdude liked this post SWAdude wrote:My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference.Let's be real. Dean couldn't even design or decide on a decent logo Los Angeles or sports fans could accept. Spanos is a big reason that Qualcomm is delapitated he was supposed to pay for upkeep and upgrades since its remodel.There is no possibility that Dean is capable of having a stadium built. Alex Spanos was the builder, the kids are just the heirs to his hard work.... Allegedly 2 by Rams the Legends live on 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #28 SWAdude liked this post SWAdude wrote:My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference.Yea I agree this is about a stadium someone else pays for be it SD or LA . However I don't believe he would move to LA and then look to have his own stadium. Perhaps some years or decades down the road this is viable. For the immediate though he is gonna be forking over half a billion to three quarters of a billion give or take whatever he makes from his psl's sales, for ownership in a being built state of the art stadium.I would also if I was Stan drop the one dollar a year rent. I would do a strait line fiscal responsibility based upon the limits or percentages of the partnership or ownership.Reason I say this is down the road if Spanos doesn't see the returns he expects he could with smart counsel end up making Stan pay for his liabilities. There are rights and obligations our courts will uphold in a contract and there are rights and obligations our courts will uphold in a lessor/lessee relationship. The waters are gonna be murky here so if I was Stan I would pick one or the other and not a hybrid of both as he could find himself in court in a short period of years and on the losing end of the stick seeing his own dream becoming a nightmare.If he does go with a hybrid I would make sure I have plenty waiver of rights added in the contract for Spanos to sign. Otherwise this could become real ugly fast and leave the NFL having to solve a problem of unintended consequence. 1 by St. Loser Fan 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10899 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #29 BuiltRamTough and 1 others liked this post LA_Ram_#29 wrote:San Diego is where the Chargers fans are...that's where they should be..That thinking does no good. Didn't stop the Rams from leaving LA, the Rams from leaving St. Louis and now the Raiders leaving Oakland. What the fans want is irrelevant. 2 by St. Loser Fan 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10899 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #30 If the owners are really angry, it's probably jealousy that a (bleep) up like Spanos is going to see his team's net worth double and play in a great new stadium while their teams stay the same and are stuck playing in 10 year old dumpy stadiums. Reply 3 / 5 1 3 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 43 posts Jul 23 2025
by Downey2Oside 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 19 Joined: Jan 15 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #27 RedAlice, SWAdude liked this post SWAdude wrote:My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference.Let's be real. Dean couldn't even design or decide on a decent logo Los Angeles or sports fans could accept. Spanos is a big reason that Qualcomm is delapitated he was supposed to pay for upkeep and upgrades since its remodel.There is no possibility that Dean is capable of having a stadium built. Alex Spanos was the builder, the kids are just the heirs to his hard work.... Allegedly 2 by Rams the Legends live on 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #28 SWAdude liked this post SWAdude wrote:My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference.Yea I agree this is about a stadium someone else pays for be it SD or LA . However I don't believe he would move to LA and then look to have his own stadium. Perhaps some years or decades down the road this is viable. For the immediate though he is gonna be forking over half a billion to three quarters of a billion give or take whatever he makes from his psl's sales, for ownership in a being built state of the art stadium.I would also if I was Stan drop the one dollar a year rent. I would do a strait line fiscal responsibility based upon the limits or percentages of the partnership or ownership.Reason I say this is down the road if Spanos doesn't see the returns he expects he could with smart counsel end up making Stan pay for his liabilities. There are rights and obligations our courts will uphold in a contract and there are rights and obligations our courts will uphold in a lessor/lessee relationship. The waters are gonna be murky here so if I was Stan I would pick one or the other and not a hybrid of both as he could find himself in court in a short period of years and on the losing end of the stick seeing his own dream becoming a nightmare.If he does go with a hybrid I would make sure I have plenty waiver of rights added in the contract for Spanos to sign. Otherwise this could become real ugly fast and leave the NFL having to solve a problem of unintended consequence. 1 by St. Loser Fan 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10899 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #29 BuiltRamTough and 1 others liked this post LA_Ram_#29 wrote:San Diego is where the Chargers fans are...that's where they should be..That thinking does no good. Didn't stop the Rams from leaving LA, the Rams from leaving St. Louis and now the Raiders leaving Oakland. What the fans want is irrelevant. 2 by St. Loser Fan 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10899 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #30 If the owners are really angry, it's probably jealousy that a (bleep) up like Spanos is going to see his team's net worth double and play in a great new stadium while their teams stay the same and are stuck playing in 10 year old dumpy stadiums. Reply 3 / 5 1 3 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 43 posts Jul 23 2025
by Rams the Legends live on 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1990 Joined: Aug 26 2015 Colorado Springs Pro Bowl Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #28 SWAdude liked this post SWAdude wrote:My understanding is that there were feasible stadium offerings. The problem was Dean wanted a free stadium in the difficult to develop downtown area. They will have to be quickly Super Bowl worthy or fail miserably in LA. My thoughts are that LA is going to be a stop to where ever they end up with their own stadium. In Inglewood, they will always be a team that plays in the LA Rams stadium. Even now I feel like our Rams are playing in USC's stadium. Because its true. It's not ours. Big difference.Yea I agree this is about a stadium someone else pays for be it SD or LA . However I don't believe he would move to LA and then look to have his own stadium. Perhaps some years or decades down the road this is viable. For the immediate though he is gonna be forking over half a billion to three quarters of a billion give or take whatever he makes from his psl's sales, for ownership in a being built state of the art stadium.I would also if I was Stan drop the one dollar a year rent. I would do a strait line fiscal responsibility based upon the limits or percentages of the partnership or ownership.Reason I say this is down the road if Spanos doesn't see the returns he expects he could with smart counsel end up making Stan pay for his liabilities. There are rights and obligations our courts will uphold in a contract and there are rights and obligations our courts will uphold in a lessor/lessee relationship. The waters are gonna be murky here so if I was Stan I would pick one or the other and not a hybrid of both as he could find himself in court in a short period of years and on the losing end of the stick seeing his own dream becoming a nightmare.If he does go with a hybrid I would make sure I have plenty waiver of rights added in the contract for Spanos to sign. Otherwise this could become real ugly fast and leave the NFL having to solve a problem of unintended consequence. 1 by St. Loser Fan 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10899 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #29 BuiltRamTough and 1 others liked this post LA_Ram_#29 wrote:San Diego is where the Chargers fans are...that's where they should be..That thinking does no good. Didn't stop the Rams from leaving LA, the Rams from leaving St. Louis and now the Raiders leaving Oakland. What the fans want is irrelevant. 2 by St. Loser Fan 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10899 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #30 If the owners are really angry, it's probably jealousy that a (bleep) up like Spanos is going to see his team's net worth double and play in a great new stadium while their teams stay the same and are stuck playing in 10 year old dumpy stadiums. Reply 3 / 5 1 3 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 43 posts Jul 23 2025
by St. Loser Fan 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10899 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #29 BuiltRamTough and 1 others liked this post LA_Ram_#29 wrote:San Diego is where the Chargers fans are...that's where they should be..That thinking does no good. Didn't stop the Rams from leaving LA, the Rams from leaving St. Louis and now the Raiders leaving Oakland. What the fans want is irrelevant. 2 by St. Loser Fan 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10899 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #30 If the owners are really angry, it's probably jealousy that a (bleep) up like Spanos is going to see his team's net worth double and play in a great new stadium while their teams stay the same and are stuck playing in 10 year old dumpy stadiums. Reply 3 / 5 1 3 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 43 posts Jul 23 2025
by St. Loser Fan 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 10899 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Has Spanos Gone Rogue? POST #30 If the owners are really angry, it's probably jealousy that a (bleep) up like Spanos is going to see his team's net worth double and play in a great new stadium while their teams stay the same and are stuck playing in 10 year old dumpy stadiums. Reply 3 / 5 1 3 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business