[dieterbrock]

Games like this make Fisher look like he knows what he's doing. No offense and let the D win the game for ye

[RedAlice]

Games like this make Fisher look like he knows what he's doing. No offense and let the D win the game for ye

Seems so.

[/zn/]

Well Manning used to play on a team that did it the way many seem to like. Passing game built around an elite qb. However, if teams like that don't have a running game or a defense or both, they tend to crash and burn in the post-season. That's why after 14 seasons where the Colts made the playoffs, they made it to the conference game 5 times and lost 3 of those, and then only won one superbowl.

At the end of his career, he becomes a game manager on a defensive team, and they win two of two conference games and 1 superbowl. In 2015 it's with the 16th ranked offense.

Add up the superbowl wins by Marino, Fouts, Anderson, Favre, and so on.

A balanced team with a great qb is a tremendous thing, but the next stage down is a balanced team with a very good to just good qb.

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[Elvis]

Games like this make Fisher look like he knows what he's doing. No offense and let the D win the game for ye

Carolina has one of the best offenses in the NFL but Denver shut them down.

If our defense can be good enough to shut down the NFL's best offenses (and i don't think we're very far from that) Fisher can win.

Either the offense has to get better or the defense needs to be elite. With Fisher, i figure an elite defense is more likely...

[Elvis]

Manning had a passer rating of 56.6

Newton was 55.4

[moklerman]

Yeah, that game set back NFL offense by about 50 years. I mean, Denver and Carolina had good defenses this year but I wouldn't call them historic. I wouldn't even put either of them in that conversation.

I'm glad the Broncos won and even more glad the Panthers lost. But that was the most boring SB I can remember ever watching.

Glad Manning gets to ride off into the sunset and wonder how much of a hit Newton's cred will take after he jumped away from his fumble on the ground instead of going into the pile to get it.

[Elvis]

[moklerman]

So, Newton bails on the post game interviews also. Shows a real lack of maturity and professionalism during and after the game and even Irvin and Deion are criticizing him. But someone posted that Marshall was defending him?

[OldSchool]

So, Newton bails on the post game interviews also. Shows a real lack of maturity and professionalism during and after the game and even Irvin and Deion are criticizing him. But someone posted that Marshall was defending him?

Not so much defending him as he understood Cam and hopes he learns from it. At least that's what it sounded like to me from the other room.

[Elvis]

Was anybody less press friendly than Faulk when he was a player?