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 by Indrid Cold
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moklerman wrote:If you're going to have a wishlist, why not come up with a name that you actually want? Maybe even how he ties into the Rams/how they would get him.

Wanting Bradford back, especially now that the team is better, isn't "madness". He's arguably the best FA QB, he's familiar to the system and HC, is still the type of QB that Fisher wants and he's available.

He'll probably cost too much and one year doesn't erase concerns about his health but he's a viable option that would improve the team.


Yes, such a list of realistic possibilities to chose from. I think it's safe to assume none of FAs (Cousins, Fitz, probably even Bradford) will even hit the market. RGIII and Manziel are worse than what we have. Kap, maybe. Then you're talking current backups. Pick a name from that group, roll the dice...or they'll stick it out with the 3 now.

From that perspective, Bradford looks great. But Rams are going invest $20M++ in QB next year ($8M Foles + Bradford)? Be the risk taker...one thing if Bradford gets hurt on someone else's dime, but for the Rams to get burned a third time? That's risk you push elsewhere. And what organization brings back failed leadership? Quantify it, divvy up responsibility, etc. but he failed in a top position in the org. The bring the guy that we traded away back signing might happen with a superstar once in a while, but that's usually not the type of reverse engineering you see.

And...I'm not convinced that the uptick in play at the end of Year 5 for Bradford is anything that leads to an upward career arc. He kind of is what he is at this point in his career and not someone I'd invest short- or long-term dollars in.

 by den-the-coach
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RamsFanSince82 wrote:I still find the Foles to Pilly rumor hard to believe (other than just checking on him and other QB options).



I can understand if new Head Coach Doug Pederson really liked him and feels he can make necessary adjustments I totally understand wanting to bring him back especially on the cheap. They only have Mark Sanchez under contract so bringing back Foles along with a draft choice sets up Pederson to have his guy as opposed to Sanchez. So really the question looms does Pederson believe in a guy he drafted and most likely spent a ton of time with because he was the QB Coach?

It's happens more than you think over the years and you only have to look at Mike Martz with Trent Greene as one example, but if a certain coach has a history with a player they like bringing them in. Look how many former Titans came with Fisher once he was hired as Head Coach of the Rams. My hope is that Pederson goes with Foles because Chase Daniels is also available via free agency and one would surmise the Eagles will look in that direction as well.

 by dieterbrock
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Honestly, this topic really annoys me.
Typically I like Schefter, but this reeks of lazy journalism to me. He thinks he's on to something because of the previous connection. Meanwhile down in the Philly area there are numerous reports to this being completely baseless and untrue. The FO of the Eagles wants to wipe the stink of Chip Kelly from the stadium. Foles lost favor with the organization before Kelly *benched* him
There is no chance this happens
Not franchising Bradford is a separate topic and I think they are wise to not do so. I agree with Den that Philly is more likely to look at Daniel for FA QB *if* they cant re-sign Bradford
I'll say this about Sam, he sure has balls in his contract negotiations. For a guy who's been so overpaid related to his results, he sure squeezes every drop out of the lemon

 by den-the-coach
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dieterbrock wrote:I'll say this about Sam, he sure has balls in his contract negotiations. For a guy who's been so overpaid related to his results, he sure squeezes every drop out of the lemon


Yeah and he will overplay his hand this year. The reason I was for getting rid of Bradford was because he would not take a pay cut, that told me all I needed to know about him and his agent. I could see Bradford ending up in Houston, he'll be close to home.

 by Hacksaw_64
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Elvis wrote:Not sure how good he is at football, but he's pretty good at business...



I think we have a winner.

 by moklerman
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den-the-coach wrote:
dieterbrock wrote:I'll say this about Sam, he sure has balls in his contract negotiations. For a guy who's been so overpaid related to his results, he sure squeezes every drop out of the lemon


Yeah and he will overplay his hand this year. The reason I was for getting rid of Bradford was because he would not take a pay cut, that told me all I needed to know about him and his agent. I could see Bradford ending up in Houston, he'll be close to home.
Do you think they go after Bradford or just draft Hackenberg, who O'Brien coached at Penn St. before taking over the Texans?

Would Bradford sign somewhere they were drafting a QBOF?

 by moklerman
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Indrid Cold wrote:And...I'm not convinced that the uptick in play at the end of Year 5 for Bradford is anything that leads to an upward career arc. He kind of is what he is at this point in his career and not someone I'd invest short- or long-term dollars in.
Sadly, he actually isn't. And in a way, it might work to his benefit at some point. I've got to assume he's looking for a multi-year deal, good circumstances and some stability. What Alex Smith got with the Chiefs and Andy Reid for example.

Bradford will have to learn yet another system/coach, new receivers, etc. in 2016. So, I don't think he "is what he is" because he's only once played in the same system for more than a year. I agree that the injury risk is still higher with him but not that much more than most of the QB's in the league.

For the Rams, it comes down to how close they feel they are. Personally, I think they're a solid starter away from the playoffs. If I was the GM, I'd go out and get the best QB I could afford. I realize I'm biased since I think Bradford is that QB this year, but as objectively as I can look at those QB's who are available, I don't see many names that are better.

Bradford may cost more than market value but he won't be getting $25M/year. That was a "what's your number" floated by Condon when the Eagles were trying to extend Bradford. He didn't want to extend at that time and threw out a high number. If they bit, fine. If not, it put off negotiations until the offseason, which is what Bradford presumably wanted. Maybe he'll still be more than the Rams want to spend but the Rams got a draft pick and someone else to test his knee. If they like what they saw, in addition to Bradford's improved numbers, I could easily see them re-signing him.

 by den-the-coach
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moklerman wrote:Do you think they go after Bradford or just draft Hackenberg, who O'Brien coached at Penn St. before taking over the Texans?

Would Bradford sign somewhere they were drafting a QBOF?


Great point did not even think of Hackenberg with O'Brien. I know I felt he regressed and I'm not a big fan of him, but O'Brien did recruit him. Who knows, if Bradford overplays his hand, he could end up with a one year deal to prove himself and even if the Texans drafted Hackenberg on a one year deal the Texans would be better off going with Bradford IMHO. Who knows? It will be interesting to see where everybody ends up.

 by dieterbrock
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moklerman wrote:
den-the-coach wrote:
dieterbrock wrote:I'll say this about Sam, he sure has balls in his contract negotiations. For a guy who's been so overpaid related to his results, he sure squeezes every drop out of the lemon


Yeah and he will overplay his hand this year. The reason I was for getting rid of Bradford was because he would not take a pay cut, that told me all I needed to know about him and his agent. I could see Bradford ending up in Houston, he'll be close to home.
Do you think they go after Bradford or just draft Hackenberg, who O'Brien coached at Penn St. before taking over the Texans?

Would Bradford sign somewhere they were drafting a QBOF?

I don't see why Houston wouldn't do both. Bradford would be a great fit and Hackenburg wont cost a lot. Houston has had to use more QB then any team and they still made the playoffs. They surely are one team who has to believe in the benefit of having a solid back up.
And lets face it, its not like Bradford has torn up the league where you'd expect him to be untouchable. I think seeing him with Hackenburg makes a lot of sense.

But at the end of the day, I think he ends up in Denver

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