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 by snackdaddy
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   10049  
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United States of America   Merced California
Hall of Fame

So this so called "unbiased' committee is the one who "suggested" the $100 mil? Its pretty clear its not an unbiased committee. I'm sure Spanos was on the phone recruiting once the committee was formed. Dude is desperate to keep the Rams out of LA.

There's a lot of fluff and not much substance to the ChaRaiders and STL's attempts to keep the Rams from moving. These owners are not dumb. They know what the best deal is. And they know a con when they see one.

 by Hacksaw
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   24523  
 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
Moderator

dieterbrock wrote:There's really no point in trying to justify what cant be controlled. The old school is still ruling the roost at the NFL and they are taking care of Spanos. Its illogical, and nonsensical but apparently is what it is.
So we will have Chargers/Raiders headed to LA and the Rams just sitting back waiting for Carson to fall apart.
IF Stan agrees to deal with the St Louis crowd, Im not sure I can hang on to my "fandom"
When this whole thing began, I felt pretty good as a fan that I'd see my team get a new stadium either way and that it was a win-win.
But the way this has played out has me so disgusted


Well put. But does the old guard have enough pull to gather the 24 votes? I hate thinking they may have the majority and are that foolish and fearful, but I'm betting the 24 owners needed is too many. I could be wrong which is why my meter went down to 50-50. Not that StL or Carson look any more realistic, just that the owners SEEM to be trending the wrong way.

Now have we heard this from lopsided count from anyone outside the McFab Spanordson birdies? Do we know that any of that is true? It's almost high noon and McFab is doing a great job of staying relevant through the media.
The only things I have heard from the NFL lately is from Goodell asking the task farce and popPeacock specifically WTF about the fuzzy math offered up and Grubman stating that NFL doesn't think that the StLoony deal is good enough.
I know they don't vote but I trust what comes out of their mouth more than McFab who has an agenda.

Could all be posturing from either side so we just won't know until we KNOW. I am very hopeful.

 by Hacksaw
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   24523  
 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
Moderator

bubbaramfan wrote:What I don't understand is what do the other owners get out of backing Spanos?


Some sort of secure feeling that they wont get pushed around by the new money, or they don't want to be outed for the things they have been doing with Spanos behind closed doors. Read that anyway you like,,,, lol

 by SoCalRam78
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   1087  
 Joined:  May 25 2015
United States of America   SoCal
Pro Bowl

Hacksaw wrote:
bubbaramfan wrote:What I don't understand is what do the other owners get out of backing Spanos?


Some sort of secure feeling that they wont get pushed around by the new money, or they don't want to be outed for the things they have been doing with Spanos behind closed doors. Read that anyway you like,,,, lol



The other thing that is irritating me is when I read, "owners feel Kroenke hasn't respected relocation process."

What, why? He didn't make an offer to the CVC? He didn't inform the NFL of his land purchase? The Rams/CVC didn't have negotiations before the arbitration period? He has to pay for his own stadium in St. Louis because they're offering 30% of a stadium? Meanwhile, Fabiani/Spanos can derail any effort San Diego put forth in the last calendar year.

 by Stranger
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   3213  
 Joined:  Aug 12 2015
United States of America   Norcal
Superstar

Hacksaw wrote:
bubbaramfan wrote:What I don't understand is what do the other owners get out of backing Spanos?


Some sort of secure feeling that they wont get pushed around by the new money, or they don't want to be outed for the things they have been doing with Spanos behind closed doors. Read that anyway you like,,,, lol


If we are to believe that the other owners are actually backing Spanos, and this is a huge "IF", then is goes against the grain of the NFL's goal of $25B/yr in revenues. Clearly, ESK's CoC proposed development is a major step toward increased revenues for the NFL. Carson is a small step. And leaving a franchise in StL takes them backwards.

So, once again, logic is thwarted. And I have to believe at the end of the day that the appeal of the most revenue wins out, no matter how strong the bonds of this old guard network appear to be.

 by Stranger
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   3213  
 Joined:  Aug 12 2015
United States of America   Norcal
Superstar

SoCalRam78 wrote:
Hacksaw wrote:
bubbaramfan wrote:What I don't understand is what do the other owners get out of backing Spanos?


Some sort of secure feeling that they wont get pushed around by the new money, or they don't want to be outed for the things they have been doing with Spanos behind closed doors. Read that anyway you like,,,, lol



The other thing that is irritating me is when I read, "owners feel Kroenke hasn't respected relocation process."

What, why? He didn't make an offer to the CVC? He didn't inform the NFL of his land purchase? The Rams/CVC didn't have negotiations before the arbitration period? He has to pay for his own stadium in St. Louis because they're offering 30% of a stadium? Meanwhile, Fabiani/Spanos can derail any effort San Diego put forth in the last calendar year.


This has Fabiani's PR footprints all over it. Discredit the other side no matter what it takes. This guy went to the CIA school of propaganda.

 by OldSchool
9 years 6 months ago
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 Joined:  Jun 09 2015
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Pro Bowl

I've suggested before that relocation fees would be at least partially funneled to hometown stadium initiatives. The problem for Mr Nixon for that is the only owner who can afford the relocation fee is Kroenke.

 by Rams the Legends live on
9 years 6 months ago
 Total posts:   1990  
 Joined:  Aug 26 2015
United States of America   Colorado Springs
Pro Bowl

bubbaramfan wrote:What I don't understand is what do the other owners get out of backing Spanos?


In a good ole boy club always important to have a favor or a ya owe me in your back pocket. The votes Spanos will get will come with a price he will owe each one a likewise vote on any future projects that will be in their favor and markers will be called.

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