by max 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #181 TOPIC AUTHOR dieterbrock wrote:I can only find one game he played under 30 degrees. The Denver game. What other games are you considering?I saw a night game at Washington State where he threw for 500+ and 5td but temps were in the low 40’sAs a pro, it was in the high 30’s against Tennessee where he threw for 300, 4 tds and a 4th q comeback winWow. I didn’t realize he only played one game in freezing temps. I was thinking he played in New England but that was his rookie year, so not indicative. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #182 max wrote:Getting back to the OP.If you look at every game Goff has ever played in under 30 degrees temps, my bet is that he’s never had a good game. Not even one. And that includes college. I know you can say it’s probably a small sample size, but I still think there’s an argument that he can’t function well in the cold. I hope he goes into Chicago and proves me wrong.Max, why do you insist on making incredible statements like that? But I checked anyway.....games in Eugene, Boulder, Corvallis, Seattle, Salt Lake City, etc...........all Goff's college game logs where he played in cities apt to have low temperatures in October, November and December......in conjunction with weather underground's weather history and as far as I can tell he didn't play a college game in weather of 30 degrees or less (and WU gives you the hourly temperature before you ask). I did the same for 2016-2018, as far as NFL starts go, and found Goff has played in 1 game* where the temperature was 30 degrees or less (Denver, 2018). The funny thing is I initially wasn't going to bother with 2016 given Goff's green rookie status and Fisher's antiquated offensive system, but I did anyway. 1 game in 6 years of NCAA or NFL football. And so based off that 1 game (Denver of this year), you feel confident "he's never had a good game" when the temperature is 30 or below. Then you go so far to comment about the obvious small sample size but " I still think there's an argument he can't function in cold weather"!!! You don't see the outrageousness of that belief? First off, who does "function well in cold weather" besides Eskimos and Polar Bears?.....and even those two examples took years of adaptation to get there. Second, 1 game to go by and you "bet" or "think there's an argument he can't function in cold weather"? Based off of 1 game? I'd bet even if he had a bad or good game in Chicago, it's still not indisputable proof of anything. It's too little to go by in elements where few excel. You might as well bet someone will get wet if they take a long walk on a day where there's a 90% chance of rain. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by dieterbrock 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #183 max wrote:Wow. I didn’t realize he only played one game in freezing temps. I was thinking he played in New England but that was his rookie year, so not indicative.If the parameter is changed to under 40, there appears to be a little more data. 2 poor games as a rookie in NE and Seattle and his great game against Tennessee last year. I recall Drew Brees at one point had a terrible road record but couldn’t find a single game of his under 30 either. by dieterbrock 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #184 Elvis, PARAM liked this post PARAM wrote:But I checked anyway.....games in Eugene, Boulder, Corvallis, Seattle, Salt Lake City, etc...........all Goff's college game logs where he played in cities apt to have low temperatures in October, November and December......in conjunction with weather underground's weather history and as far as I can tell he didn't play a college game in weather of 30 degrees or less (and WU gives you the hourly temperature before you ask). I did the same for 2016-2018, as far as NFL starts go, and found Goff has played in 1 game* where the temperature was 30 degrees or less (Denver, 2018). The funny thing is I initially wasn't going to bother with 2016 given Goff's green rookie status and Fisher's antiquated offensive system, but I did anyway. 1 game in 6 years of NCAA or NFL football.Lol. I was on the same sites Looked like the epic Cal @ WSU 60-59 game was right around 40The 2 QB in that game combined for almost 1,300 passing, 11 TD and NO INTJust wow 2 by snackdaddy 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #185 I'm thinking all this cold weather stuff is a moot point after this game. Chances are they're gonna play at home or in New Orleans under a dome when the playoffs come. by /zn/ 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6943 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #186 PARAM wrote:First off, who does "function well in cold weather" besides Eskimos and Polar Bears?.....Odds are that the local teams in cold weather areas function a certain percentage better in the cold than teams from warmer regions do. So it isn't a matter of functioning in the cold in the abstract, it's a comparative thing. This was an old NFL mantra for years--travelling to away games to the north or northeast in winter was seen as a disadvantage. That would only be because the home team would be comparatively more used to it. Chances are that doesn't even mean they adapted to the cold--they're just more experienced at coping with it. I suppose one way to fact check that is look at the point differentials for home games in December for a team like the Patz. Having said that, I actually don't think the weather was the important factor in the Denver game. Goff said the Denver D was doing things they had not seen and it was harder to crack what they were doing. IMO that had more to do with it. ... by Elvis 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 41515 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #187 max wrote:Wow. I didn’t realize he only played one game in freezing temps. I was thinking he played in New England but that was his rookie year, so not indicative.Gee max, some of us were pointing this out as early as the 3rd post on page one...viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9375#p142628 RFU Season Ticket Holder by max 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #188 TOPIC AUTHOR Elvis wrote:Gee max, some of us were pointing this out as early as the 3rd post on page one...viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9375#p142628Yeah, I feel better now. Just checking.I heard M.Lombardi say yesterday that Goff is bad in cold weather and he quoted some stats. Then i heard some other podcast guys say they are from northern Cal and they said Goff is a Cali boy who cant play in cold weather. It is interesting to hear the common media mantra of California teams can't play in the cold. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #189 /zn/ wrote:Odds are that the local teams in cold weather areas function a certain percentage better in the cold than teams from warmer regions do. So it isn't a matter of functioning in the cold in the abstract, it's a comparative thing. This was an old NFL mantra for years--travelling to away games to the north or northeast in winter was seen as a disadvantage. That would only be because the home team would be comparatively more used to it. Chances are that doesn't even mean they adapted to the cold--they're just more experienced at coping with it. I suppose one way to fact check that is look at the point differentials for home games in December for a team like the Patz. Having said that, I actually don't think the weather was the important factor in the Denver game. Goff said the Denver D was doing things they had not seen and it was harder to crack what they were doing. IMO that had more to do with it. ...Depends on the definition of "certain percentage". I can see the affect altitude might have on a visiting team and the benefit for the home team who practice in it. But 'cold weather' teams? In today's NFL don't most teams have indoor practice facilities? Even the 'hot weather teams' in Arizona and Florida? Altitude affects a person whether they're indoors or outside but not cold and hot weather. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #190 snackdaddy wrote:I'm thinking all this cold weather stuff is a moot point after this game. Chances are they're gonna play at home or in New Orleans under a dome when the playoffs come.They'll be playing at home.......throughout. The Saints are going to lose again at least once. Possibly this week, definitely against Pittsburgh and possibly one of the two Carolina games. The Rams biggest test is this week in Chicago and frankly I think they've got it covered. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. 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by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #182 max wrote:Getting back to the OP.If you look at every game Goff has ever played in under 30 degrees temps, my bet is that he’s never had a good game. Not even one. And that includes college. I know you can say it’s probably a small sample size, but I still think there’s an argument that he can’t function well in the cold. I hope he goes into Chicago and proves me wrong.Max, why do you insist on making incredible statements like that? But I checked anyway.....games in Eugene, Boulder, Corvallis, Seattle, Salt Lake City, etc...........all Goff's college game logs where he played in cities apt to have low temperatures in October, November and December......in conjunction with weather underground's weather history and as far as I can tell he didn't play a college game in weather of 30 degrees or less (and WU gives you the hourly temperature before you ask). I did the same for 2016-2018, as far as NFL starts go, and found Goff has played in 1 game* where the temperature was 30 degrees or less (Denver, 2018). The funny thing is I initially wasn't going to bother with 2016 given Goff's green rookie status and Fisher's antiquated offensive system, but I did anyway. 1 game in 6 years of NCAA or NFL football. And so based off that 1 game (Denver of this year), you feel confident "he's never had a good game" when the temperature is 30 or below. Then you go so far to comment about the obvious small sample size but " I still think there's an argument he can't function in cold weather"!!! You don't see the outrageousness of that belief? First off, who does "function well in cold weather" besides Eskimos and Polar Bears?.....and even those two examples took years of adaptation to get there. Second, 1 game to go by and you "bet" or "think there's an argument he can't function in cold weather"? Based off of 1 game? I'd bet even if he had a bad or good game in Chicago, it's still not indisputable proof of anything. It's too little to go by in elements where few excel. You might as well bet someone will get wet if they take a long walk on a day where there's a 90% chance of rain. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by dieterbrock 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #183 max wrote:Wow. I didn’t realize he only played one game in freezing temps. I was thinking he played in New England but that was his rookie year, so not indicative.If the parameter is changed to under 40, there appears to be a little more data. 2 poor games as a rookie in NE and Seattle and his great game against Tennessee last year. I recall Drew Brees at one point had a terrible road record but couldn’t find a single game of his under 30 either. by dieterbrock 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #184 Elvis, PARAM liked this post PARAM wrote:But I checked anyway.....games in Eugene, Boulder, Corvallis, Seattle, Salt Lake City, etc...........all Goff's college game logs where he played in cities apt to have low temperatures in October, November and December......in conjunction with weather underground's weather history and as far as I can tell he didn't play a college game in weather of 30 degrees or less (and WU gives you the hourly temperature before you ask). I did the same for 2016-2018, as far as NFL starts go, and found Goff has played in 1 game* where the temperature was 30 degrees or less (Denver, 2018). The funny thing is I initially wasn't going to bother with 2016 given Goff's green rookie status and Fisher's antiquated offensive system, but I did anyway. 1 game in 6 years of NCAA or NFL football.Lol. I was on the same sites Looked like the epic Cal @ WSU 60-59 game was right around 40The 2 QB in that game combined for almost 1,300 passing, 11 TD and NO INTJust wow 2 by snackdaddy 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #185 I'm thinking all this cold weather stuff is a moot point after this game. Chances are they're gonna play at home or in New Orleans under a dome when the playoffs come. by /zn/ 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6943 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #186 PARAM wrote:First off, who does "function well in cold weather" besides Eskimos and Polar Bears?.....Odds are that the local teams in cold weather areas function a certain percentage better in the cold than teams from warmer regions do. So it isn't a matter of functioning in the cold in the abstract, it's a comparative thing. This was an old NFL mantra for years--travelling to away games to the north or northeast in winter was seen as a disadvantage. That would only be because the home team would be comparatively more used to it. Chances are that doesn't even mean they adapted to the cold--they're just more experienced at coping with it. I suppose one way to fact check that is look at the point differentials for home games in December for a team like the Patz. Having said that, I actually don't think the weather was the important factor in the Denver game. Goff said the Denver D was doing things they had not seen and it was harder to crack what they were doing. IMO that had more to do with it. ... by Elvis 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 41515 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #187 max wrote:Wow. I didn’t realize he only played one game in freezing temps. I was thinking he played in New England but that was his rookie year, so not indicative.Gee max, some of us were pointing this out as early as the 3rd post on page one...viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9375#p142628 RFU Season Ticket Holder by max 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #188 TOPIC AUTHOR Elvis wrote:Gee max, some of us were pointing this out as early as the 3rd post on page one...viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9375#p142628Yeah, I feel better now. Just checking.I heard M.Lombardi say yesterday that Goff is bad in cold weather and he quoted some stats. Then i heard some other podcast guys say they are from northern Cal and they said Goff is a Cali boy who cant play in cold weather. It is interesting to hear the common media mantra of California teams can't play in the cold. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #189 /zn/ wrote:Odds are that the local teams in cold weather areas function a certain percentage better in the cold than teams from warmer regions do. So it isn't a matter of functioning in the cold in the abstract, it's a comparative thing. This was an old NFL mantra for years--travelling to away games to the north or northeast in winter was seen as a disadvantage. That would only be because the home team would be comparatively more used to it. Chances are that doesn't even mean they adapted to the cold--they're just more experienced at coping with it. I suppose one way to fact check that is look at the point differentials for home games in December for a team like the Patz. Having said that, I actually don't think the weather was the important factor in the Denver game. Goff said the Denver D was doing things they had not seen and it was harder to crack what they were doing. IMO that had more to do with it. ...Depends on the definition of "certain percentage". I can see the affect altitude might have on a visiting team and the benefit for the home team who practice in it. But 'cold weather' teams? In today's NFL don't most teams have indoor practice facilities? Even the 'hot weather teams' in Arizona and Florida? Altitude affects a person whether they're indoors or outside but not cold and hot weather. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #190 snackdaddy wrote:I'm thinking all this cold weather stuff is a moot point after this game. Chances are they're gonna play at home or in New Orleans under a dome when the playoffs come.They'll be playing at home.......throughout. The Saints are going to lose again at least once. Possibly this week, definitely against Pittsburgh and possibly one of the two Carolina games. The Rams biggest test is this week in Chicago and frankly I think they've got it covered. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. 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by dieterbrock 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #183 max wrote:Wow. I didn’t realize he only played one game in freezing temps. I was thinking he played in New England but that was his rookie year, so not indicative.If the parameter is changed to under 40, there appears to be a little more data. 2 poor games as a rookie in NE and Seattle and his great game against Tennessee last year. I recall Drew Brees at one point had a terrible road record but couldn’t find a single game of his under 30 either. by dieterbrock 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #184 Elvis, PARAM liked this post PARAM wrote:But I checked anyway.....games in Eugene, Boulder, Corvallis, Seattle, Salt Lake City, etc...........all Goff's college game logs where he played in cities apt to have low temperatures in October, November and December......in conjunction with weather underground's weather history and as far as I can tell he didn't play a college game in weather of 30 degrees or less (and WU gives you the hourly temperature before you ask). I did the same for 2016-2018, as far as NFL starts go, and found Goff has played in 1 game* where the temperature was 30 degrees or less (Denver, 2018). The funny thing is I initially wasn't going to bother with 2016 given Goff's green rookie status and Fisher's antiquated offensive system, but I did anyway. 1 game in 6 years of NCAA or NFL football.Lol. I was on the same sites Looked like the epic Cal @ WSU 60-59 game was right around 40The 2 QB in that game combined for almost 1,300 passing, 11 TD and NO INTJust wow 2 by snackdaddy 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #185 I'm thinking all this cold weather stuff is a moot point after this game. Chances are they're gonna play at home or in New Orleans under a dome when the playoffs come. by /zn/ 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6943 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #186 PARAM wrote:First off, who does "function well in cold weather" besides Eskimos and Polar Bears?.....Odds are that the local teams in cold weather areas function a certain percentage better in the cold than teams from warmer regions do. So it isn't a matter of functioning in the cold in the abstract, it's a comparative thing. This was an old NFL mantra for years--travelling to away games to the north or northeast in winter was seen as a disadvantage. That would only be because the home team would be comparatively more used to it. Chances are that doesn't even mean they adapted to the cold--they're just more experienced at coping with it. I suppose one way to fact check that is look at the point differentials for home games in December for a team like the Patz. Having said that, I actually don't think the weather was the important factor in the Denver game. Goff said the Denver D was doing things they had not seen and it was harder to crack what they were doing. IMO that had more to do with it. ... by Elvis 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 41515 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #187 max wrote:Wow. I didn’t realize he only played one game in freezing temps. I was thinking he played in New England but that was his rookie year, so not indicative.Gee max, some of us were pointing this out as early as the 3rd post on page one...viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9375#p142628 RFU Season Ticket Holder by max 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #188 TOPIC AUTHOR Elvis wrote:Gee max, some of us were pointing this out as early as the 3rd post on page one...viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9375#p142628Yeah, I feel better now. Just checking.I heard M.Lombardi say yesterday that Goff is bad in cold weather and he quoted some stats. Then i heard some other podcast guys say they are from northern Cal and they said Goff is a Cali boy who cant play in cold weather. It is interesting to hear the common media mantra of California teams can't play in the cold. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #189 /zn/ wrote:Odds are that the local teams in cold weather areas function a certain percentage better in the cold than teams from warmer regions do. So it isn't a matter of functioning in the cold in the abstract, it's a comparative thing. This was an old NFL mantra for years--travelling to away games to the north or northeast in winter was seen as a disadvantage. That would only be because the home team would be comparatively more used to it. Chances are that doesn't even mean they adapted to the cold--they're just more experienced at coping with it. I suppose one way to fact check that is look at the point differentials for home games in December for a team like the Patz. Having said that, I actually don't think the weather was the important factor in the Denver game. Goff said the Denver D was doing things they had not seen and it was harder to crack what they were doing. IMO that had more to do with it. ...Depends on the definition of "certain percentage". I can see the affect altitude might have on a visiting team and the benefit for the home team who practice in it. But 'cold weather' teams? In today's NFL don't most teams have indoor practice facilities? Even the 'hot weather teams' in Arizona and Florida? Altitude affects a person whether they're indoors or outside but not cold and hot weather. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #190 snackdaddy wrote:I'm thinking all this cold weather stuff is a moot point after this game. Chances are they're gonna play at home or in New Orleans under a dome when the playoffs come.They'll be playing at home.......throughout. The Saints are going to lose again at least once. Possibly this week, definitely against Pittsburgh and possibly one of the two Carolina games. The Rams biggest test is this week in Chicago and frankly I think they've got it covered. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. 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by dieterbrock 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #184 Elvis, PARAM liked this post PARAM wrote:But I checked anyway.....games in Eugene, Boulder, Corvallis, Seattle, Salt Lake City, etc...........all Goff's college game logs where he played in cities apt to have low temperatures in October, November and December......in conjunction with weather underground's weather history and as far as I can tell he didn't play a college game in weather of 30 degrees or less (and WU gives you the hourly temperature before you ask). I did the same for 2016-2018, as far as NFL starts go, and found Goff has played in 1 game* where the temperature was 30 degrees or less (Denver, 2018). The funny thing is I initially wasn't going to bother with 2016 given Goff's green rookie status and Fisher's antiquated offensive system, but I did anyway. 1 game in 6 years of NCAA or NFL football.Lol. I was on the same sites Looked like the epic Cal @ WSU 60-59 game was right around 40The 2 QB in that game combined for almost 1,300 passing, 11 TD and NO INTJust wow 2 by snackdaddy 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #185 I'm thinking all this cold weather stuff is a moot point after this game. Chances are they're gonna play at home or in New Orleans under a dome when the playoffs come. by /zn/ 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6943 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #186 PARAM wrote:First off, who does "function well in cold weather" besides Eskimos and Polar Bears?.....Odds are that the local teams in cold weather areas function a certain percentage better in the cold than teams from warmer regions do. So it isn't a matter of functioning in the cold in the abstract, it's a comparative thing. This was an old NFL mantra for years--travelling to away games to the north or northeast in winter was seen as a disadvantage. That would only be because the home team would be comparatively more used to it. Chances are that doesn't even mean they adapted to the cold--they're just more experienced at coping with it. I suppose one way to fact check that is look at the point differentials for home games in December for a team like the Patz. Having said that, I actually don't think the weather was the important factor in the Denver game. Goff said the Denver D was doing things they had not seen and it was harder to crack what they were doing. IMO that had more to do with it. ... by Elvis 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 41515 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #187 max wrote:Wow. I didn’t realize he only played one game in freezing temps. I was thinking he played in New England but that was his rookie year, so not indicative.Gee max, some of us were pointing this out as early as the 3rd post on page one...viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9375#p142628 RFU Season Ticket Holder by max 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #188 TOPIC AUTHOR Elvis wrote:Gee max, some of us were pointing this out as early as the 3rd post on page one...viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9375#p142628Yeah, I feel better now. Just checking.I heard M.Lombardi say yesterday that Goff is bad in cold weather and he quoted some stats. Then i heard some other podcast guys say they are from northern Cal and they said Goff is a Cali boy who cant play in cold weather. It is interesting to hear the common media mantra of California teams can't play in the cold. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #189 /zn/ wrote:Odds are that the local teams in cold weather areas function a certain percentage better in the cold than teams from warmer regions do. So it isn't a matter of functioning in the cold in the abstract, it's a comparative thing. This was an old NFL mantra for years--travelling to away games to the north or northeast in winter was seen as a disadvantage. That would only be because the home team would be comparatively more used to it. Chances are that doesn't even mean they adapted to the cold--they're just more experienced at coping with it. I suppose one way to fact check that is look at the point differentials for home games in December for a team like the Patz. Having said that, I actually don't think the weather was the important factor in the Denver game. Goff said the Denver D was doing things they had not seen and it was harder to crack what they were doing. IMO that had more to do with it. ...Depends on the definition of "certain percentage". I can see the affect altitude might have on a visiting team and the benefit for the home team who practice in it. But 'cold weather' teams? In today's NFL don't most teams have indoor practice facilities? Even the 'hot weather teams' in Arizona and Florida? Altitude affects a person whether they're indoors or outside but not cold and hot weather. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #190 snackdaddy wrote:I'm thinking all this cold weather stuff is a moot point after this game. Chances are they're gonna play at home or in New Orleans under a dome when the playoffs come.They'll be playing at home.......throughout. The Saints are going to lose again at least once. Possibly this week, definitely against Pittsburgh and possibly one of the two Carolina games. The Rams biggest test is this week in Chicago and frankly I think they've got it covered. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. 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by snackdaddy 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 10049 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #185 I'm thinking all this cold weather stuff is a moot point after this game. Chances are they're gonna play at home or in New Orleans under a dome when the playoffs come. by /zn/ 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6943 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #186 PARAM wrote:First off, who does "function well in cold weather" besides Eskimos and Polar Bears?.....Odds are that the local teams in cold weather areas function a certain percentage better in the cold than teams from warmer regions do. So it isn't a matter of functioning in the cold in the abstract, it's a comparative thing. This was an old NFL mantra for years--travelling to away games to the north or northeast in winter was seen as a disadvantage. That would only be because the home team would be comparatively more used to it. Chances are that doesn't even mean they adapted to the cold--they're just more experienced at coping with it. I suppose one way to fact check that is look at the point differentials for home games in December for a team like the Patz. Having said that, I actually don't think the weather was the important factor in the Denver game. Goff said the Denver D was doing things they had not seen and it was harder to crack what they were doing. IMO that had more to do with it. ... by Elvis 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 41515 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #187 max wrote:Wow. I didn’t realize he only played one game in freezing temps. I was thinking he played in New England but that was his rookie year, so not indicative.Gee max, some of us were pointing this out as early as the 3rd post on page one...viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9375#p142628 RFU Season Ticket Holder by max 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #188 TOPIC AUTHOR Elvis wrote:Gee max, some of us were pointing this out as early as the 3rd post on page one...viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9375#p142628Yeah, I feel better now. Just checking.I heard M.Lombardi say yesterday that Goff is bad in cold weather and he quoted some stats. Then i heard some other podcast guys say they are from northern Cal and they said Goff is a Cali boy who cant play in cold weather. It is interesting to hear the common media mantra of California teams can't play in the cold. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #189 /zn/ wrote:Odds are that the local teams in cold weather areas function a certain percentage better in the cold than teams from warmer regions do. So it isn't a matter of functioning in the cold in the abstract, it's a comparative thing. This was an old NFL mantra for years--travelling to away games to the north or northeast in winter was seen as a disadvantage. That would only be because the home team would be comparatively more used to it. Chances are that doesn't even mean they adapted to the cold--they're just more experienced at coping with it. I suppose one way to fact check that is look at the point differentials for home games in December for a team like the Patz. Having said that, I actually don't think the weather was the important factor in the Denver game. Goff said the Denver D was doing things they had not seen and it was harder to crack what they were doing. IMO that had more to do with it. ...Depends on the definition of "certain percentage". I can see the affect altitude might have on a visiting team and the benefit for the home team who practice in it. But 'cold weather' teams? In today's NFL don't most teams have indoor practice facilities? Even the 'hot weather teams' in Arizona and Florida? Altitude affects a person whether they're indoors or outside but not cold and hot weather. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #190 snackdaddy wrote:I'm thinking all this cold weather stuff is a moot point after this game. Chances are they're gonna play at home or in New Orleans under a dome when the playoffs come.They'll be playing at home.......throughout. The Saints are going to lose again at least once. Possibly this week, definitely against Pittsburgh and possibly one of the two Carolina games. The Rams biggest test is this week in Chicago and frankly I think they've got it covered. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. 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by /zn/ 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6943 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #186 PARAM wrote:First off, who does "function well in cold weather" besides Eskimos and Polar Bears?.....Odds are that the local teams in cold weather areas function a certain percentage better in the cold than teams from warmer regions do. So it isn't a matter of functioning in the cold in the abstract, it's a comparative thing. This was an old NFL mantra for years--travelling to away games to the north or northeast in winter was seen as a disadvantage. That would only be because the home team would be comparatively more used to it. Chances are that doesn't even mean they adapted to the cold--they're just more experienced at coping with it. I suppose one way to fact check that is look at the point differentials for home games in December for a team like the Patz. Having said that, I actually don't think the weather was the important factor in the Denver game. Goff said the Denver D was doing things they had not seen and it was harder to crack what they were doing. IMO that had more to do with it. ... by Elvis 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 41515 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #187 max wrote:Wow. I didn’t realize he only played one game in freezing temps. I was thinking he played in New England but that was his rookie year, so not indicative.Gee max, some of us were pointing this out as early as the 3rd post on page one...viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9375#p142628 RFU Season Ticket Holder by max 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #188 TOPIC AUTHOR Elvis wrote:Gee max, some of us were pointing this out as early as the 3rd post on page one...viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9375#p142628Yeah, I feel better now. Just checking.I heard M.Lombardi say yesterday that Goff is bad in cold weather and he quoted some stats. Then i heard some other podcast guys say they are from northern Cal and they said Goff is a Cali boy who cant play in cold weather. It is interesting to hear the common media mantra of California teams can't play in the cold. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #189 /zn/ wrote:Odds are that the local teams in cold weather areas function a certain percentage better in the cold than teams from warmer regions do. So it isn't a matter of functioning in the cold in the abstract, it's a comparative thing. This was an old NFL mantra for years--travelling to away games to the north or northeast in winter was seen as a disadvantage. That would only be because the home team would be comparatively more used to it. Chances are that doesn't even mean they adapted to the cold--they're just more experienced at coping with it. I suppose one way to fact check that is look at the point differentials for home games in December for a team like the Patz. Having said that, I actually don't think the weather was the important factor in the Denver game. Goff said the Denver D was doing things they had not seen and it was harder to crack what they were doing. IMO that had more to do with it. ...Depends on the definition of "certain percentage". I can see the affect altitude might have on a visiting team and the benefit for the home team who practice in it. But 'cold weather' teams? In today's NFL don't most teams have indoor practice facilities? Even the 'hot weather teams' in Arizona and Florida? Altitude affects a person whether they're indoors or outside but not cold and hot weather. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #190 snackdaddy wrote:I'm thinking all this cold weather stuff is a moot point after this game. Chances are they're gonna play at home or in New Orleans under a dome when the playoffs come.They'll be playing at home.......throughout. The Saints are going to lose again at least once. Possibly this week, definitely against Pittsburgh and possibly one of the two Carolina games. The Rams biggest test is this week in Chicago and frankly I think they've got it covered. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 19 / 32 1 19 32 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 314 posts Jul 10 2025
by Elvis 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 41515 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #187 max wrote:Wow. I didn’t realize he only played one game in freezing temps. I was thinking he played in New England but that was his rookie year, so not indicative.Gee max, some of us were pointing this out as early as the 3rd post on page one...viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9375#p142628 RFU Season Ticket Holder by max 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #188 TOPIC AUTHOR Elvis wrote:Gee max, some of us were pointing this out as early as the 3rd post on page one...viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9375#p142628Yeah, I feel better now. Just checking.I heard M.Lombardi say yesterday that Goff is bad in cold weather and he quoted some stats. Then i heard some other podcast guys say they are from northern Cal and they said Goff is a Cali boy who cant play in cold weather. It is interesting to hear the common media mantra of California teams can't play in the cold. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #189 /zn/ wrote:Odds are that the local teams in cold weather areas function a certain percentage better in the cold than teams from warmer regions do. So it isn't a matter of functioning in the cold in the abstract, it's a comparative thing. This was an old NFL mantra for years--travelling to away games to the north or northeast in winter was seen as a disadvantage. That would only be because the home team would be comparatively more used to it. Chances are that doesn't even mean they adapted to the cold--they're just more experienced at coping with it. I suppose one way to fact check that is look at the point differentials for home games in December for a team like the Patz. Having said that, I actually don't think the weather was the important factor in the Denver game. Goff said the Denver D was doing things they had not seen and it was harder to crack what they were doing. IMO that had more to do with it. ...Depends on the definition of "certain percentage". I can see the affect altitude might have on a visiting team and the benefit for the home team who practice in it. But 'cold weather' teams? In today's NFL don't most teams have indoor practice facilities? Even the 'hot weather teams' in Arizona and Florida? Altitude affects a person whether they're indoors or outside but not cold and hot weather. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #190 snackdaddy wrote:I'm thinking all this cold weather stuff is a moot point after this game. Chances are they're gonna play at home or in New Orleans under a dome when the playoffs come.They'll be playing at home.......throughout. The Saints are going to lose again at least once. Possibly this week, definitely against Pittsburgh and possibly one of the two Carolina games. The Rams biggest test is this week in Chicago and frankly I think they've got it covered. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 19 / 32 1 19 32 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 314 posts Jul 10 2025
by max 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #188 TOPIC AUTHOR Elvis wrote:Gee max, some of us were pointing this out as early as the 3rd post on page one...viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9375#p142628Yeah, I feel better now. Just checking.I heard M.Lombardi say yesterday that Goff is bad in cold weather and he quoted some stats. Then i heard some other podcast guys say they are from northern Cal and they said Goff is a Cali boy who cant play in cold weather. It is interesting to hear the common media mantra of California teams can't play in the cold. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #189 /zn/ wrote:Odds are that the local teams in cold weather areas function a certain percentage better in the cold than teams from warmer regions do. So it isn't a matter of functioning in the cold in the abstract, it's a comparative thing. This was an old NFL mantra for years--travelling to away games to the north or northeast in winter was seen as a disadvantage. That would only be because the home team would be comparatively more used to it. Chances are that doesn't even mean they adapted to the cold--they're just more experienced at coping with it. I suppose one way to fact check that is look at the point differentials for home games in December for a team like the Patz. Having said that, I actually don't think the weather was the important factor in the Denver game. Goff said the Denver D was doing things they had not seen and it was harder to crack what they were doing. IMO that had more to do with it. ...Depends on the definition of "certain percentage". I can see the affect altitude might have on a visiting team and the benefit for the home team who practice in it. But 'cold weather' teams? In today's NFL don't most teams have indoor practice facilities? Even the 'hot weather teams' in Arizona and Florida? Altitude affects a person whether they're indoors or outside but not cold and hot weather. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #190 snackdaddy wrote:I'm thinking all this cold weather stuff is a moot point after this game. Chances are they're gonna play at home or in New Orleans under a dome when the playoffs come.They'll be playing at home.......throughout. The Saints are going to lose again at least once. Possibly this week, definitely against Pittsburgh and possibly one of the two Carolina games. The Rams biggest test is this week in Chicago and frankly I think they've got it covered. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 19 / 32 1 19 32 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 314 posts Jul 10 2025
by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #189 /zn/ wrote:Odds are that the local teams in cold weather areas function a certain percentage better in the cold than teams from warmer regions do. So it isn't a matter of functioning in the cold in the abstract, it's a comparative thing. This was an old NFL mantra for years--travelling to away games to the north or northeast in winter was seen as a disadvantage. That would only be because the home team would be comparatively more used to it. Chances are that doesn't even mean they adapted to the cold--they're just more experienced at coping with it. I suppose one way to fact check that is look at the point differentials for home games in December for a team like the Patz. Having said that, I actually don't think the weather was the important factor in the Denver game. Goff said the Denver D was doing things they had not seen and it was harder to crack what they were doing. IMO that had more to do with it. ...Depends on the definition of "certain percentage". I can see the affect altitude might have on a visiting team and the benefit for the home team who practice in it. But 'cold weather' teams? In today's NFL don't most teams have indoor practice facilities? Even the 'hot weather teams' in Arizona and Florida? Altitude affects a person whether they're indoors or outside but not cold and hot weather. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #190 snackdaddy wrote:I'm thinking all this cold weather stuff is a moot point after this game. Chances are they're gonna play at home or in New Orleans under a dome when the playoffs come.They'll be playing at home.......throughout. The Saints are going to lose again at least once. Possibly this week, definitely against Pittsburgh and possibly one of the two Carolina games. The Rams biggest test is this week in Chicago and frankly I think they've got it covered. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 19 / 32 1 19 32 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 314 posts Jul 10 2025
by PARAM 6 years 7 months ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Will Goff be "off" again in cold weather against a good D? POST #190 snackdaddy wrote:I'm thinking all this cold weather stuff is a moot point after this game. Chances are they're gonna play at home or in New Orleans under a dome when the playoffs come.They'll be playing at home.......throughout. The Saints are going to lose again at least once. Possibly this week, definitely against Pittsburgh and possibly one of the two Carolina games. The Rams biggest test is this week in Chicago and frankly I think they've got it covered. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 19 / 32 1 19 32 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business