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I can only find one game he played under 30 degrees. The Denver game.
What other games are you considering?
I saw a night game at Washington State where he threw for 500+ and 5td but temps were in the low 40’s

As a pro, it was in the high 30’s against Tennessee where he threw for 300, 4 tds and a 4th q comeback win

Wow. I didn’t realize he only played one game in freezing temps. I was thinking he played in New England but that was his rookie year, so not indicative.

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Getting back to the OP.

If you look at every game Goff has ever played in under 30 degrees temps, my bet is that he’s never had a good game. Not even one. And that includes college. I know you can say it’s probably a small sample size, but I still think there’s an argument that he can’t function well in the cold.

I hope he goes into Chicago and proves me wrong.

Max, why do you insist on making incredible statements like that?

But I checked anyway.....games in Eugene, Boulder, Corvallis, Seattle, Salt Lake City, etc...........all Goff's college game logs where he played in cities apt to have low temperatures in October, November and December......in conjunction with weather underground's weather history and as far as I can tell he didn't play a college game in weather of 30 degrees or less (and WU gives you the hourly temperature before you ask).

I did the same for 2016-2018, as far as NFL starts go, and found Goff has played in 1 game* where the temperature was 30 degrees or less (Denver, 2018). The funny thing is I initially wasn't going to bother with 2016 given Goff's green rookie status and Fisher's antiquated offensive system, but I did anyway. 1 game in 6 years of NCAA or NFL football.

And so based off that 1 game (Denver of this year), you feel confident "he's never had a good game" when the temperature is 30 or below. Then you go so far to comment about the obvious small sample size but " I still think there's an argument he can't function in cold weather"!!! You don't see the outrageousness of that belief?

First off, who does "function well in cold weather" besides Eskimos and Polar Bears?.....and even those two examples took years of adaptation to get there. Second, 1 game to go by and you "bet" or "think there's an argument he can't function in cold weather"? Based off of 1 game? I'd bet even if he had a bad or good game in Chicago, it's still not indisputable proof of anything. It's too little to go by in elements where few excel. You might as well bet someone will get wet if they take a long walk on a day where there's a 90% chance of rain.

[dieterbrock]

Wow. I didn’t realize he only played one game in freezing temps. I was thinking he played in New England but that was his rookie year, so not indicative.

If the parameter is changed to under 40, there appears to be a little more data.
2 poor games as a rookie in NE and Seattle and his great game against Tennessee last year.
I recall Drew Brees at one point had a terrible road record but couldn’t find a single game of his under 30 either.

[dieterbrock]

But I checked anyway.....games in Eugene, Boulder, Corvallis, Seattle, Salt Lake City, etc...........all Goff's college game logs where he played in cities apt to have low temperatures in October, November and December......in conjunction with weather underground's weather history and as far as I can tell he didn't play a college game in weather of 30 degrees or less (and WU gives you the hourly temperature before you ask).

I did the same for 2016-2018, as far as NFL starts go, and found Goff has played in 1 game* where the temperature was 30 degrees or less (Denver, 2018). The funny thing is I initially wasn't going to bother with 2016 given Goff's green rookie status and Fisher's antiquated offensive system, but I did anyway. 1 game in 6 years of NCAA or NFL football.

Lol. I was on the same sites
Looked like the epic Cal @ WSU 60-59 game was right around 40
The 2 QB in that game combined for almost 1,300 passing, 11 TD and NO INT
Just wow

[snackdaddy]

I'm thinking all this cold weather stuff is a moot point after this game. Chances are they're gonna play at home or in New Orleans under a dome when the playoffs come.

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First off, who does "function well in cold weather" besides Eskimos and Polar Bears?.....

Odds are that the local teams in cold weather areas function a certain percentage better in the cold than teams from warmer regions do.

So it isn't a matter of functioning in the cold in the abstract, it's a comparative thing. This was an old NFL mantra for years--travelling to away games to the north or northeast in winter was seen as a disadvantage. That would only be because the home team would be comparatively more used to it. Chances are that doesn't even mean they adapted to the cold--they're just more experienced at coping with it. I suppose one way to fact check that is look at the point differentials for home games in December for a team like the Patz.

Having said that, I actually don't think the weather was the important factor in the Denver game. Goff said the Denver D was doing things they had not seen and it was harder to crack what they were doing. IMO that had more to do with it.

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[Elvis]

Wow. I didn’t realize he only played one game in freezing temps. I was thinking he played in New England but that was his rookie year, so not indicative.

Gee max, some of us were pointing this out as early as the 3rd post on page one...

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9375#p142628

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Gee max, some of us were pointing this out as early as the 3rd post on page one...

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9375#p142628

Yeah, I feel better now. Just checking.

I heard M.Lombardi say yesterday that Goff is bad in cold weather and he quoted some stats. Then i heard some other podcast guys say they are from northern Cal and they said Goff is a Cali boy who cant play in cold weather. It is interesting to hear the common media mantra of California teams can't play in the cold.

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Odds are that the local teams in cold weather areas function a certain percentage better in the cold than teams from warmer regions do.

So it isn't a matter of functioning in the cold in the abstract, it's a comparative thing. This was an old NFL mantra for years--travelling to away games to the north or northeast in winter was seen as a disadvantage. That would only be because the home team would be comparatively more used to it. Chances are that doesn't even mean they adapted to the cold--they're just more experienced at coping with it. I suppose one way to fact check that is look at the point differentials for home games in December for a team like the Patz.

Having said that, I actually don't think the weather was the important factor in the Denver game. Goff said the Denver D was doing things they had not seen and it was harder to crack what they were doing. IMO that had more to do with it.

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Depends on the definition of "certain percentage". I can see the affect altitude might have on a visiting team and the benefit for the home team who practice in it. But 'cold weather' teams? In today's NFL don't most teams have indoor practice facilities? Even the 'hot weather teams' in Arizona and Florida? Altitude affects a person whether they're indoors or outside but not cold and hot weather.

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I'm thinking all this cold weather stuff is a moot point after this game. Chances are they're gonna play at home or in New Orleans under a dome when the playoffs come.

They'll be playing at home.......throughout. The Saints are going to lose again at least once. Possibly this week, definitely against Pittsburgh and possibly one of the two Carolina games. The Rams biggest test is this week in Chicago and frankly I think they've got it covered.