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 by PARAM
6 years 3 weeks ago
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Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
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dieterbrock wrote:Not sure we’d be willing to give up what they will ask for Madbum. Urshela? The name fans throw out there is Frazier however I’m not sure an NL team will want an OF best suited for DH


They have plenty of prospects down on the farm to get Bumgarner without giving up Frazier or Urshela.

 by dieterbrock
6 years 3 weeks ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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PARAM wrote:They have plenty of prospects down on the farm to get Bumgarner without giving up Frazier or Urshela.

Not a chance.
They will get a haul for him. Prospects won’t do it alone. Will have to give up a major leaguer

 by Horny Mcbae
6 years 2 weeks ago
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United States of America   South Bay, Los Angeles
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I would say the state of the starting rotation can and should be called a crisis.

Is Hal really that cheap and I just haven't been able to admit it or did we really think Dallas Keuchal wasn't very good to sign? No prospects to give up and no long term money attached. I keep telling myself Cash and Hal don't rate Keuchal but then I watch our pitching and oh boy...……. it's excruciatingly bad.

Game 2 against the CWS has to be the worst game we have played the entire year. Defense, pitching and hitting. Just beyond garbage.

Paxton...………………….. I am getting concerned. CC looks like he literally has nothing for us since he came back from the knee injection. Every night……. he has nothing for us.

We need to get starting pitching help and oh ya...…… fcuk Kendrys Morales and whoever kept him in the lineup all those weeks.

 by Horny Mcbae
6 years 2 weeks ago
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United States of America   South Bay, Los Angeles
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PARAM wrote:They have plenty of prospects down on the farm to get Bumgarner without giving up Frazier or Urshela.

Not a chance. Florial is pretty much a given but he will have to be accompanied by someone like Urshela or Clint to get any type of impact top of the rotation pitcher.

They will probably sell us on the "Montgomery is like a new signing" narrative very soon.

 by Horny Mcbae
6 years 2 weeks ago
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United States of America   South Bay, Los Angeles
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We just traded for Encarnacion of the Mariners.

Something is brewing guys. This trade makes no sense otherwise. I think Clint is a goner to get some pitching help and Gardy will be hitting the bench permanently.

 by dieterbrock
6 years 2 weeks ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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I hate it.
Yanks won’t get top dollar for Frazier. Likely they’ll get Stroman from the blue jays and Frazier will haunt us for the next decade.
Same old Yankees. Go away from what works so they can get past prime guys who K all the time.
Frazier will be gone and Urshela hits the bench. Voit will lose at bats too so the stars of the early part of the season that was so fun to watch, Frazier, Urshela and Estrada will be an after thought

 by PARAM
6 years 2 weeks ago
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Yeah it's unfortunate you have to give up players when you have an important distinct need. Frazier? Love the kid......as a DH. In the field he's terrible. What do we have in the DH department? Stanton, Encarnacion, Voit, Sanchez on occasion and Frazier. So what if we have to give up Frazier (and a pitching prospect) to get Bumgarner? Frazier isn't suddenly going to learn how to play defense. Our outfield is set.....Judge, Hicks, Stanton, Gardner and Florial (in the future). Losing Frazier ain't the worst thing that can happen.

Urshela losing time? He hasn't suddenly discovered how to sustain good hitting. He was playing waaaaay over his head. It happens to some guys when they get to the Yankees. In the month of June, he's hitting .179 (more Urshela-like). He's reverting back to what he always was.....a late inning stellar defensive replacement who provides the random hit from time to time.

Go get Bumgarner!!!! Give up Frazier and a good pitching prospect (though I'm not so sure it'll take all that; he's a FA after this season; if the Giants don't deal him, they'll lose him for nothing but a draft pick next year). Phase out CC eventually (definitely for the postseaon) and pray Severino comes back this season.
Tanaka, Paxton, Happ, Bumgarner and Severino would be a nice quintet.

 by Horny Mcbae
6 years 2 weeks ago
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I would HATE to give up Frazier. That will be a mistake. The defensive issues can be fixed to the point that he becomes an average outfielder. His bat is great. We will regret sending him away unless we win the world series this year with the pitcher he gets us. The defensive issues are not un-fixable, with some maturing and experience he will be fine.

I would trade Urshela in a package even tho those 2 don't have the same value, I know. This makes the Dallas Keuchal thing more of a head scratcher. Now we will give up a prime young player (frazier) and a lot more for a rental. WTF.

I hate how this thing is shaping up.

They showed a stat today during the White Sox game that Encarnacion is leading all of baseball in home runs in this DECADE. Having said that WTF has Voit done to have his at bats cut short. WTF.

 by dieterbrock
6 years 2 weeks ago
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Frazier sent to AAA. I hope they trade him. He deserves better.
Yankees won’t win. No loyalty to the players and no team chemistry.
I look forward to Clint shoving it up their ass when he gets to play against the pinstripes

 by PARAM
6 years 2 weeks ago
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Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
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Horny Mcbae wrote:I would HATE to give up Frazier. That will be a mistake. The defensive issues can be fixed to the point that he becomes an average outfielder. His bat is great. We will regret sending him away unless we win the world series this year with the pitcher he gets us. The defensive issues are not un-fixable, with some maturing and experience he will be fine.

I would trade Urshela in a package even tho those 2 don't have the same value, I know. This makes the Dallas Keuchal thing more of a head scratcher. Now we will give up a prime young player (frazier) and a lot more for a rental. WTF.

I hate how this thing is shaping up.

They showed a stat today during the White Sox game that Encarnacion is leading all of baseball in home runs in this DECADE. Having said that WTF has Voit done to have his at bats cut short. WTF.


They (Yes) also said (last night) the Encarnacion deal is as much about keeping him out of Boston and Tampa as it is bringing him to NYC.

DieterBrock wrote:Frazier sent to AAA. I hope they trade him. He deserves better.
Yankees won’t win. No loyalty to the players and no team chemistry.
I look forward to Clint shoving it up their ass when he gets to play against the pinstripes


Come on DB!! Severino extended before he needed to be extended. Sticking with Green. Unreal loyalty to CC. And the team chemistry is fine. You can see it. They all believe they can win EVERY night. Didi is the glue that holds that team chemistry together. Plus, it's not a done deal they will unload Frazier.

Having looked at MB's contract, why would they give up a young up and coming star for a guy who will play 4 months? I have a sneaking suspicion they are going to get Stromen instead for Florial or a stud pitching prospect. But if it's Frazier for MB, I never 'look forward' to anybody 'shoving it up their ass'.

Team first over individual players. Once you take off the pinstripes, I'm no longer a huge fan. (see, Cano, Miller, Robertson, etc.)

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