[aeneas1]

I do know that he USED to be one of my favorite players. Now I know he is only in it for himself.

was jerry rice only in it for himself? mike singletary? emmitt smith? cornelius bennet, dan fouts, marshall faulk, etc., etc., etc.? c'mon... and the notion that a player doesn't care about his fans if he holds out, so fans shouldn't care about him, what's that all about? as if fans truly care about players, fan loyalty begins and ends with "what have you done for me lately", is there anyone roaming god's green earth who is more disposable than a pro athlete?

[dieterbrock]

What bothers me is guys like Le'Veon Bell and Odell Beckham Jr playing under their circumstances. Does Donald have more of an impact on the Rams record than those two do for the Steelers and Giants? It's really getting aggravating now.

Bell never even signed his tender and hasn't had quite the career Donald has had. Injury prone, suspensions etc. He probably would have done the same thing as Donald had he had a good 3rd year.
I'm pretty shocked that OBJ didnt hold out but I think the Giants made it pretty clear that he was out if he did. But still, his numbers are sick and if AD deserves a new deal so does he.

[rams74]

Bell never even signed his tender and hasn't had quite the career Donald has had. Injury prone, suspensions etc. He probably would have done the same thing as Donald had he had a good 3rd year.
I'm pretty shocked that OBJ didnt hold out but I think the Giants made it pretty clear that he was out if he did. But still, his numbers are sick and if AD deserves a new deal so does he.

Deserve's got nothing to do with it.
-- Will Munny

[Elvis]

What bothers me is guys like Le'Veon Bell and Odell Beckham Jr playing under their circumstances. Does Donald have more of an impact on the Rams record than those two do for the Steelers and Giants? It's really getting aggravating now.

Bell getting 12.1 mil guaranteed and is a free agent after this year, way different than the Donald situation...

[BobCarl]

rice .. singletary ... smith ... bennet...fouts... faulk

yes ... Pace, and a slew of others.

If I am knowingly going to put my life on the line and take a shorter life expectancy and take a 99% chance that I will get CTE .. I'd better be getting my sweet ass loaded so I can handout a few million to each of my surviving relatives.

[Elvis]

[azramsfan93]

I'm a fan as much as you are but I'm not delusional, I'm objective and I can handle the truth.

Our team has sucked for years now.

man, I wanna party with you.

NOT!!

I can handle anything. This is just a game. It is supposed to be competitive and passionate, not analytical and deliberative.

Whatever. You live in your world. I will root in mine.

[azramsfan93]

was jerry rice only in it for himself? mike singletary? emmitt smith? cornelius bennet, dan fouts, marshall faulk, etc., etc., etc.? c'mon... and the notion that a player doesn't care about his fans if he holds out, so fans shouldn't care about him, what's that all about? as if fans truly care about players, fan loyalty begins and ends with "what have you done for me lately", is there anyone roaming god's green earth who is more disposable than a pro athlete?

You can care all you want. It's a free country. I am a Rams fan not a Donald fan. If he isn't on the team I don't care about him. The fact that he chooses to be away just furthers my thoughts on the matter.

[aeneas1]

You can care all you want. It's a free country. I am a Rams fan not a Donald fan. If he isn't on the team I don't care about him. The fact that he chooses to be away just furthers my thoughts on the matter.

pretty sure we're all rams fans... but you didn't answer my question, do you think the players i listed were also in it only for themselves? they didn't care about their teammates, the game, or the fans?

[/zn/]

pretty sure we're all rams fans... but you didn't answer my question, do you think the players i listed were also in it only for themselves? they didn't care about their teammates, the game, or the fans?

I am voting in this column.

Holdouts are just business. The business side of it sometimes gets messy. I don't hold that against the player.

Saying players should short-change the business side of it just turns "caring about fans and the game" into a pro-management stance. It's not more noble, it's just more pro-management.

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