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Jourdan's great. She's a writer, and a good one. I was just pointing out that particular article didn't add anything new, facts wise...

Never said she wasn't great. But even great reporters are influenced by their worldview.

[PARAM]

Its also possible that he needs to walk to the edge of the abyss before he realizes he does not want to jump in.

This seems accurate. He's said, if he decides to step away, "of course I'll be coaching again". Well right there it's clear he loves it, wants it and doesn't really want to quit. But something is eating at him.

Maybe a call to Belichick? "How do you balance it?"
Or his good friend Jon Gruden? "How much time did you invest when announcing?"

[PARAM]

But even great reporters are influenced by their worldview.

As are fans.

And fans are influenced by other things like their outlook on life

"Buck up buttercup!!!"
"He ought to just tell that wife....." or
"I understand, he's concerned for his mental state...and that can be quite fragile in even the strongest of manly men......the pressure, the mixed emotions, the angst, the fact football isn't the only thing in life"

We as fans don't often look at the human side because all that matters is winning.
"That guy is waste of space!!"
"An untalented loser!!!"
" I hope he goes elsewhere and suffers for the rest of his career!!"
"What a bum. We'd be better off just playing with 10. He should go sell shoes."

[BobCarl]

I'd have to put (McVay) #1.

I would too.

But to add ... (and take away) ...

Without cheating, It is much harder to win on an elite level than it was before the salary cap era.

Regarding Vermeil's stint with the Rams: In my mind, he doesn't get credit for the SB, he completely lost the team in 1998. Martz was the De Facto HC.

[Hacksaw]

"Just like I told the coaching staff, we'll work through some things," McVay said Monday afternoon. "This is something that, don't want to rush into any sort of decision. There's a lot of emotion right after the season. There's a lot of layers to this. There's a lot of people that it does affect, that I don't take lightly and want to be mindful of. And so we're going to take the next couple of days to really able to kind of reflect."

https://www.therams.com/news/sean-mcvay ... r-decision

[BobCarl]

And fans are influenced by other things like their outlook on life

Thank God that Bernie Miklasz doesn't write for The Athletic.

Imagine if he still had the power to tell Rams Fans what their outlook would be?

[PARAM]

Regarding Vermeil's stint with the Rams: In my mind, he doesn't get credit for the SB, he completely lost the team in 1998. Martz was the De Facto HC.

Regarding Vermeil, I feel a different view of him. I watched him transform a perennial sad sack team into a SB contender. And he did it as tough, task master with a human touch. His old Eagle players....to this day....love the guy like they do their own father. And they lost the freaking game!!!

He left the NFL when it was completely different. No salary cap. Two-a-days were the norm. Run until you puke your guts up! Then he returned after most of that stuff was taboo. He tried it the old way and the players rebelled. I still laugh at the episode of "America's Game" when Demarco said (paraphrasing), "we had a meeting because those 3 hour practices were unbearable. So he relented and cut them down to 2 hours. But we still did everything in those two hours that we were doing in 3!!!"

Yeah, Martz made all the difference but Vermeil still built that team and as tough as it was for him, gave complete control of the offense to Martz. That probably took more than we can imagine. But like Vermeil said (again paraphrasing), "what's the secret? You surround yourself with good people and let them do their job".

I liked many of the Rams head coaches....Allen, Knox, Malavasi, Robinson, Martz but Vermeil and McVay were different. They seemed to care about the players to a fault. And still managed to be Champions.

[Elvis]

Getting off topic here and i'm one who gives a ton of credit to Martz but neither Martz, Vermeil, Warner, Faulk, Bruce nor Pace ever won a SB without each other. Maybe they were all crucial?

[TomSlick]

"Just like I told the coaching staff, we'll work through some things," McVay said Monday afternoon. "This is something that, don't want to rush into any sort of decision. There's a lot of emotion right after the season. There's a lot of layers to this. There's a lot of people that it does affect, that I don't take lightly and want to be mindful of. And so we're going to take the next couple of days to really able to kind of reflect."

https://www.therams.com/news/sean-mcvay ... r-decision

If he does decide to stay then he needs to stop talking about retirement until his current contract is done. 12 months of this retirement babble is ridiculous, unless he wants to be a regular on The View.

[BobCarl]

Blah, blah, blah...

In the end ...

Is a mod or administrator allowed to put me as their foe so they don't have to read my posts?