[CanuckRightWinger]

So in 2019, you know when we missed the Playoffs.....
which essential part did we have wrong?
The Coaching or the Quarterbacking?

I say we missed the 2019 Playoffs because our OL was inadequate, and Goff got discombobulated/Bulgerized/shellshocked....take your pick.

Goff had had career games only the season earlier...Minny, KC, N'Awlins in the NFCCG....when he had Saffold&Sully protecting him.
but it fell apart in 2019 due to a shitty Ram OL.

Hey, you don't have to take it from me....take it from that Andrew Whitworth guy who told Colin Cowherd on the Cowherd PostMortem on the failed 2019 Ram Season when Whit said,
"it was unreasonable to expect two young OL players (Boom/Allen) to match the play level of the two departed veteran players (Saffold/Sully)."
It's a matter of public record.....like what are guys gonna say huh? That Whit was misquoted? that Whit mis-spoke?
.....Whit knows, he was friggin there!

Sorry if I misinterpreted your opening Elvis......but to me, you made it sound like I was totally just looking at IOL (obsessed, even) and somehow totally forgetting that QB is the most important position on a FB Team.

I mean.....geeze, I still have battle scars for questioning Goff's leadership and grit when he was still with Los Ramos. I was not a huge Goff fan, and was amazed that McSnead were able to not only pull off the Stafford deal with Brad Holmes....BUT...
MOREOVER GET HOLMES TO TAKE ON GOFF'S BLOATED CONTRACT!!! BIG SCORE FOR US FOLLOWERS OF THE HORNS!

....but they rolled the dice on this 2022 OL......same-same as in 2019.
...and Joe Noteboom is the forensic evidence of this repeat crime!!!

McVay, Coen and Olson are going to have to scheme their collective butts off to mask the inadequacies of our 2022 OL. Maybe they are smart and clever enough to do it.....and if the D plays lights out, we could maybe navigate a bunch of 17-13 or 9-3 type wins and back into the 2022 Playoffs.....
just like the 1979 Ray Malavasi Rams did....
....and once in the Playoffs sportsfans.....anything can happen!!!

GO RAMS! STRAFE SAN FRAN!!!

[PARAM]

Complete failure by Snead and Co. to not have a starting caliber 3rd string center on the roster to open the season.

Sure good planning would have accomplished that!

They get a lot of flak for their "indifference" to OL. But the truth is, they've found guys in free agency or via trade who've done pretty well. You could start with Sullivan back in 2017. He started 1 game in 2016, played in 12 others (I'm assuming as a ST lineman) and had a bad back. McVay brought him in and he played real well (well enough for some to equate his loss to losing Rich Saul). You mentioned Austin Blythe in a previous post and he was grabbed off the scrap heap, playing well enough at OG in 2018 to make the Superbowl and then as a center in 2019 and 2020. Austin Corbett was another. Oh sure, we get the revisionists who say "practically a first round pick" but what's closer to the truth is he was considered a bust in Cleveland. Now they've brought in guys named Obushi and Nsekhe and Skura. Who knows if any of them will work out but I wouldn't bet against them (the staff).

Some fans say our 2019 OL sucked or were (the less offensive)"inadequate", which bascially means the same thing. Truth is they were injured starting in week 6, after blocking for an offense that averaged 28 PPG over the first 5 weeks. Now our 2022 OL hasn't played a complete game together to date. And that one game was against perhaps the #1 Superbowl favorite. How in the hell can anybody evaluate that? They've been called "untalented" based off of 3 quarters in week 1. Our OL has been decimated (worse than 2019) and it's got nothing to do with talent.

Sure, Allen and Noteboom are bums and if it's not because of a lack of talent it's because they're injured too much. Much like Saffold was his first four years (after playing all 16 his rookie year) but the revisionists act like losing him was like losing Anthony Munoz! What was Canuck's nickname for Rodger back then? I don't remember many fans predicting a fabulous future for him unless it came with the caveat..."if he ever stays healthy". I suppose there's no chance Noteboom or Allen end up staying healthy and excelling.

One note I feel I have to address. Stafford's arm punts. It's good to know there was a fan or 2 who wasn't bothered by them. Many Ram fans and a lot of the media were concerned about them. Of course that didn't mean those fans didn't have faith in Stafford. Anybody who's watched football long enough, knew you have to take the bad with the good with MS because when he's good, he's really, really good. But calling him out on the bad is what I'm told Ram fans are allowed to do on the interweb with any player or coach.

Anyway, here's hoping the Rams braintrust designs a kickass gameplan for the niners.

[PARAM]

Hey, you don't have to take it from me....take it from that Andrew Whitworth guy who told Colin Cowherd on the Cowherd PostMortem on the failed 2019 Ram Season when Whit said,
"it was unreasonable to expect two young OL players (Boom/Allen) to match the play level of the two departed veteran players (Saffold/Sully)."
It's a matter of public record.....like what are guys gonna say huh? That Whit was misquoted? that Whit mis-spoke?
.....Whit knows, he was friggin there!

Here's the thing about that whole slant. Who expected them to be Saffold and Sullivan? When you replace anybody with a second year guy, do you expect them to be up to the level of 9 or 10 year vets? No, of course not. Was Whitworth talking about the Rams braintrust? Because if the braintrust thought that, then the should have been fired. Was he talking about the fans? The media?

It irrelevant. If they had pro bowl players instead of Noteboom or Allen and they got hurt missing 10.5 and 7.5 games respectively, would the Rams have made the playoffs? Do ProBowl Players come back faster from injury? If Noteboom and Allen played 16 games each, would the Rams have missed the playoffs?

[Elvis]

Sullivan and Saffold lost a SB. Two years later Allen and Edward won one. That seems like improvement and success to me...

[/zn/]

If you go back to the super bowl, the Rams have played 3 LOTs, 7 OGs, and 3 OCs in 7 games.

The 7 guards btw were Corbett, Edwards, Shelton, Anchrum, Jackson, Evans, Aboushi. I know everyone knows that, but it's useful to type it up and name them all.

Plus Bruss got injured in the pre-season.

Interestingly, a couple of the injury replacements are players. I would say Jackson (LOT) and Anchrum (OG). Not bad, considering. So barring more injuries (! ) that speaks well for the future.

[AvengerRam]

True, we've got enough bad players on our OL already. We do need to keep our mediocre talent healthy so we don't get Stafford broken into little pieces.

But we really don't have a good solution for this year. That train has sailed.

Or the ship is off the rails?

[CanuckRightWinger]

Or...
that submarine has definitely ceased snorkeling!

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Back to our SBLVI Lombardi for a sec....
so it was Allen and Edwards who won it for us?
I thought Elvis that we had already established that the addition of Stafford won it for us.

No matter.


So quoting McVay's axiom about "just staying in the present"....
All I see here in this thread is a variance in opinion regarding this question:
"Did the Rams braintrust invest enough thought/money/effort into fortifying Los Ramos 2022 OL?"

Guys like AvengerRam, PA, Elvis et al opine that ample preparation was made by McSnead.
Guys like max, ramsrams**, and me et al think not. (**Irish Whiskey verified)

No biggee here IMO.
We're all wired differently, come from different backgrounds/cultures, had varying life experiences, etc etc....
so why would anyone ever expect there to be total Stepford Wives 100% lockstep groupthink on all aspects of the Rams, huh?

Here's another thing guys here tend to get into a lather about (needlessly IMO).....
Having watched, in my youth, George Allen & Tommy Prothro Ram teams, with winning records, miss the NFL Playoffs was a bitter pill to swallow in a Niagara Peninsula High School with a 1200 student population and only 2 Rams fans. Could be alleged that some
fistfights may have even occurred .....
anyhoo, to this day, I view missing the Playoffs as a lost year....a ticket to NFL oblivion and irrelevancy for that NFL season. So regarding 2019.....I don't give a flying fook if we were 9-7 or 7-9.....like what's the difference?
If you miss the Playoffs, you are irrelevant for that NFL season. Period. Full Stop.

So for 2022....
okay, so we have some flaws, but so do our NFC West competitors!
If we can just play enough scoring Offense, and have our D play lights out enough....
we can make the 2022 Playoffs, and maybe with no Home Game for us....
BUT,
if we can make the 2022 Playoffs, then just like with that imperfect Ray Malavasi 9-7 squad from 1979....
anything can happen.

GO RAMS! FOOK THE FORTY-NINERS!!!

[PARAM]

If you miss the Playoffs, you are irrelevant for that NFL season. Period. Full Stop.

But once in the postseason, isn't it...."you are irrelevant if you don't win the Superbowl"? Weren't you were one pissed individual in 2018? I don't remember you saying, "what a good season for Los Ramos!"

You don't make the playoffs every year and even if you do, you don't win the Superbowl every year.

I thought Elvis that we had already established that the addition of Stafford won it for us.

Some think the acquisition of Von Miller won it for us.
Some think the acquisition of OBJ won it for us.
Some think drafting Aaron Donald won it for us.

Yup, lots of 'differences of opinion' on this and every other subject

[AvengerRam]

The Rams definitely did not plan for four of its five starting OL, and two primary backups, all going on the IR within the first 6 weeks of the season.

Name a team that is prepared for such a contingency.

[CanuckRightWinger]

For PA,
If you make the NFL Playoffs, yes then IMO, your team is relevant for that NFL Season.
If you make the SB, like Los Ramos did in 2018, and then lose....yeah, most normal Ramsnation guys will be pissed-off. I know our HC Sean McVay was very pissed off....
at himself, for being "outcoached" (McVay's own word).

I guess it's just the irritating big-mouthed guys, whose elevators don't go all the way up to the top floor, that don't get pissed off when their team loses in the SuperBowl.

Yeah, fer sure PA....it takes ALL KINDS to make up a Rams Talk Forum eh!!