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 by rams74
5 years 9 months ago
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Italy   Glendale, Arizona
Pro Bowl

/zn/ wrote:On the other hand, throw that much when behind against a great pass rush, and qbs make mistakes.


It's not only the quantity of pass attempts. Being continuously behind, and usually by more than 1 score, Goff was compelled to take more chances, and possibly force some throws. Under those conditions, some bad throws are far more likely.

 by Hacksaw
5 years 9 months ago
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United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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Well that 'splains a lot of it. Of course throwing at a ratio of 70 to 15 or what ever it was might skew the numbers some. A lot more pressure opportunities.

 by aeneas1
5 years 9 months ago
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United States of America   Norcal
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Hacksaw wrote:Of course throwing at a ratio of 70 to 15 or what ever it was might skew the numbers some. A lot more pressure opportunities.

80 pressures on 173 pass attempts is a 46.2% pressure rate, which is ridiculous, the league average is 33%... combined, goff has also been sacked or pressured on 48.6% of his dropbacks.

but wait guys, goff's only been sacked 8 times all season, so clearly his pass pro hasn't been that bad - words never muttered by anyone who understands football.

 by Hacksaw
5 years 9 months ago
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United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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aeneas1 wrote:80 pressures on 173 pass attempts is a 46.2% pressure rate, which is ridiculous, the league average is 33%... combined, goff has also been sacked or pressured on 48.6% of his dropbacks.

but wait guys, goff's only been sacked 8 times all season, so clearly his pass pro hasn't been that bad - words never muttered by anyone who understands football.

Thanks for the %'s. It's no wonder the O is sputtering. I think this O-line issue is going to dog us all year.
One could only hope that our opponents so far have all been top pass rush / pressure defenses and it's going to get easier for our O-line from here. I hope to win the lottery too.

 by majik
5 years 9 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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AvengerRam wrote:Rams have a high pressure rate and a low sack rate. Those stats are consistent with a QB doing a reasonably good job of dealing with poor pass protection.


And doing a great job of avoiding sacks. 2 of his 3 INTs against the Bucs were on the OL. He was hit while throwing which caused one and on 4th and 2 he had no choice but to chunk it up for grabs because a defender was about to hit him because HE WAS NOT EVEN TOUCHED by the OL.

 by moklerman
5 years 9 months ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
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aeneas1 wrote:80 pressures on 173 pass attempts is a 46.2% pressure rate, which is ridiculous, the league average is 33%... combined, goff has also been sacked or pressured on 48.6% of his dropbacks.

but wait guys, goff's only been sacked 8 times all season, so clearly his pass pro hasn't been that bad - words never muttered by anyone who understands football.
Why is it you can't discuss something without the passive aggressive BS and gross misrepresentation of what's being said? Why do you always resort to exaggeration and ad hominem? Does trying to insult someone make you feel better?

 by aeneas1
5 years 9 months ago
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United States of America   Norcal
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this one's on the defense.

honestly, i don't know when it became reasonable to think that giving up 30+ offensive points wasn't too bad, or when it began to make sense to say that a defense bailed out an offense that put up 27, 28 or 30+ points? or when it became common knowledge that if you spot the bad guys the ball at mid field then of course they're going to score a td?

geesh, the league average is 21 offensive points allowed per game - in 3 of the 5 games the rams have played this year the defense has allowed 27, 30 and 48 offensive points... hell, this defensive unit has allowed back-to-back 4 td passing games... moreover, after tonight's game the rams now rank 27th in offensive points allowed, followed by the raiders, redskins, cards, bengals and dolphins, good grief.

 by CanuckRightWinger
5 years 9 months ago
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Canada   VANCOUVER, BC
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The OP says:
Goff is a problem. :roll2:

ME: Well, don't look now, but the "problem" just threw for over 900 yards the past two games combined :o ......under duress because of the REAL problem, the OLine….the REAL problem which also leads to an anemic running game and defenses ignoring our PlayAction. :idea2:

Next point: aeneas1 is correct. This one is on the Rams D! :idea2:
ME: The other REAL problem is Wade Phillips. His D plans are not fooking working! :x

 by moklerman
5 years 9 months ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
Hall of Fame

CanuckRightWinger wrote:The OP says:
Goff is a problem. :roll2:

ME: Well, don't look now, but the "problem" just threw for over 900 yards the past two games combined :o ......under duress because of the REAL problem, the OLine….the REAL problem which also leads to an anemic running game and defenses ignoring our PlayAction. :idea2:

Next point: aeneas1 is correct. This one is on the Rams D! :idea2:
ME: The other REAL problem is Wade Phillips. His D plans are not fooking working! :x
Agree about the defense. It will be the undoing of this year's team.

But Goff's numbers are also a problem. Lot of yards is good but a 2.5% TD% is very low. Leading the league in interceptions isn't so good either. 20th in completion % is kind of low. 25th in passer rating is low too. So, Goff has had some glimpses but overall, he's also been a part of the problem.

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