[Gareth]

I don't wanna sound like I don't appreciate a big win. But if that offense continues to go 1 of 12 on 3rd down they won't win enough for a playoff spot. Sooner or later someone will contain Gurley enough to force Foles to beat them. So far he's not capable of that.

What makes you think it has anything to do with who is playing quarterback?

[snackdaddy]

I don't wanna sound like I don't appreciate a big win. But if that offense continues to go 1 of 12 on 3rd down they won't win enough for a playoff spot. Sooner or later someone will contain Gurley enough to force Foles to beat them. So far he's not capable of that.

What makes you think it has anything to do with who is playing quarterback?

When I watch him play I see an extension of Clemens/Davis/Hill. Just not talented enough to do some things other QB's can do.

[Hacksaw]

Foles read-ability is a questioning point. Not enough to go on for me yet though.
I have more than enough evidence of seeing catch-able balls hit the ground all day and I have to question whether the receivers are even getting open. I have my doubts. Could be the way the plays are designed too .. Look forward to the 22 view to get a better idea.

[Gareth]

I don't wanna sound like I don't appreciate a big win. But if that offense continues to go 1 of 12 on 3rd down they won't win enough for a playoff spot. Sooner or later someone will contain Gurley enough to force Foles to beat them. So far he's not capable of that.

What makes you think it has anything to do with who is playing quarterback?

When I watch him play I see an extension of Clemens/Davis/Hill. Just not talented enough to do some things other QB's can do.

It's 90% Fisher imo. No matter who has played quarterback for the Rams in the Fisher years the passing game has been terrible. I think you put Dan Marino in his prime back there and Fisher would still try to win with defense and special teams.

[Hacksaw]

The offense, passing /receiving woes have been around longer than Fisher. QB's , WR's and OC's have some culpability in all this. And those problems preceded Fisher as well.
If the Rams get a stud WR in the mix, Fisher is going to look great. and so should Nick Foles IMO..

[Stranger]

The offense, passing /receiving woes have been around longer than Fisher. QB's , WR's and OC's have some culpability in all this. And those problems preceded Fisher as well.
If the Rams get a stud WR in the mix, Fisher is going to look great. and so should Nick Foles IMO..

Man, I really really hope you are right, cause other than Gurley, and some Tavon, watching this offense is absolutely killing me. Maybe Quick can re-emerge?

[Elvis]

Fisher doesn't really philosophically believe in attacking with a strong passing offense, and it shows. He doesn't believe in it and he's not good at it.

If he can win with what he believes in, more power to him. If he can't, well at some point, he'll be gone...

[ramsfan1977]

The '85 Rams moved it better even though Dickerson was keyed every game. I do not remember Ellard, Brown or Tony Hunter dropping these many balls. Dieter Brock got to a championship game. No reason Nick Foles cannot!

[Hacksaw]

Fisher doesn't really philosophically believe in attacking with a strong passing offense, and it shows. He doesn't believe in it and he's not good at it.

If he can win with what he believes in, more power to him. If he can't, well at some point, he'll be gone...

Agreed he'll be gone if he doesn't produce.
Question. What's constitutes a"strong" passing offense? He throws a lot of deep balls. His intermediate passing game seems to lack imagination and certain timing patterns, slants, skinnies and other quick hitters seem to be missing through out the play calling.
Does Fish want a ball control style? Abso-freakin-lutely. But moving the chains accomplished that.
So back to the deep balls, I can see where the guy want's to keep the DB's back from the LOS for obvious reasons. Dial up a deep route or 2 into every play call that will help that cause.
Foles like to throw the deep rainbow and does so with decent accuracy too. If our freaking receivers could get open on their first moves or the QB read a bit faster perhaps the problem would be solved. I just haven't seen a very creative game plan with out other receivers.
I'm all in on the O scheme (coordinator) and receivers being a big part of this.
If Foles deep pass to Britt in the first quarter was a catch, the whole complexion of the game would have been different. Kenny (I think it was) went T-Rex and the ball hit the ground. Unacceptable.

[Hacksaw_64]

I think we just have to face it. You can't put lipstick on a pig. Our Offense personnel-wise is still in the process of being re-built. How many years did it take for our young defenders to mature and for Fisher to find the right DC? I think Fisher and Devaney decided last year to blow the whole thing up and start at square one. They got rid of Bradford,who set this team back years. They take a chance on Foles. Add a second round pick. They decided to begin rebuilding upfront with the OL. They draft a franchise running back. The hire Cigs as a new OC and implement a new scheme. As much as I keep preaching you have to be able to throw the football to win in the NFL, I can't say the Rams should have decided to rebuild the Rams offense by focusing on drafting WR's first before OL. Look where that got the Colts. We would have never drafted Gurley either. What they did what prudent. I would also think Fisher would be the first to tell you he is not at all happy with the passing game or 3rd down production. He said as much after the Browns game. The passing game requires the most timing, practice and precision to perfect. Between our players, scheme,and protection we are just not there yet and I'm not sure the Rams will get there at all this year. Also, if you think drafting a rookie reciever is going to answer your problems you might want to think again. Your gonna probably wait until he matures like the rest of the team. Time for the passing game to catch up. Hurry up and wait.