by Hacksaw 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Chuck Knox has passed away POST #11 leeannknox liked this post QFT CKWinning and losing are both very temporary things. Having done one or the other, you move ahead. Gloating over a victory or sulking over a loss is a good way to stand still. They say the breaks even up in the long run, and the trick is to be a long-distance runner. Practice without improvement is meaningless. Winners bring reality up to their vision. Losers bring their vision down to reality. Don't bemoan your fate. Everybody's not going to be dealt the same hand. Everybody's going to go through tough times. Always have a plan and believe in it. I tell my coaches not to compromise. Nothing good happens by accident. There must be a plan for everything and the plan will prevent you from overlooking little things. By having that plan, you'll be secure and self-doubts will never become a factor. Remember your six P's - Perfect Practice Prevents Piss Poor Performance. I knew I could make a good living working in the mills, ... I decided I didn't want to fuss with the rest of it, so I hitch-hiked back home. Repeated actions are stored as habits. If the repeated actions aren't fundamentally sound, then what comes out in a game can't be sound. What comes out will be bad habits. There were a lot of big games. But I think one of the biggest was one that will go down as one of the biggest upsets in playoff history. We were 15-point underdogs going into Miami and upset them. That was a big one. Football players win football games. Conservative coaches have one thing in common; they are unemployed. One of the most important qualities for any young athlete is the ability to believe in oneself. If you have confidence in yourself, in your teammates and your coach, you will succeed. You can concede to an opponent something he hasn't earned. It's one thing to underestimate an opponent. But maybe the worst thing is to overestimate. You always play your strengths. But that doesn't mean you become predictable. If you could have won, you should have. Most of my cliches aren't original. Born: April 27, 1932Occupation: Football coachRIP 'Ground' Chuck Knox. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by PARAM 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Chuck Knox has passed away POST #12 leeannknox liked this post The Rams were a joy to watch during his tenure from 73-77.....in the regular season. Knox (I) 54-15-1 ; 3-5 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsMartz 53-32-0 ; 3-4 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsTwo completely different styles, the same results.Arguably 10 of the best 15 years (at best) of Ram football. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by moklerman 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Chuck Knox has passed away POST #13 dieterbrock liked this post dieterbrock wrote:Knox vol II was your time no?Yeah, but I don't really count that as his era. Kind of like Gibbs 2.0 in Washington. 1 by Elvis 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 41520 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Chuck Knox has passed away POST #14 leeannknox liked this post RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by Elvis 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 41520 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Chuck Knox has passed away POST #15 leeannknox liked this post RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by CanuckRightWinger 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Chuck Knox has passed away POST #16 aeneas1, Elvis, leeannknox liked this post Count me as another of the saddened on hearing of Ground Chuck Knox's passing. Chuck Knox's 5 season run of NFC West Championships 1973-1977 took me through my RMC MilCol years and into my first naval vessels as an idealist twenty-something. Ray Malavasi's reign saw my entrance back into civilian life....and,of course, my love of The Horns started, as a ninth-grader back in Niagara, with legendary George Allen leading Los Ramos. For the record:George Allen died in 1990 at age 72.Tommy Prothro died in 1995 at age 75.Ray Malavasi died at only 57, back in 1987.....and now Chuck Knox, gone in 2018 at 86. Stuff like this can make a baby-boomer feel his years.BTW, if anybody knows anything bad about 82-year-old John Robinson's health......for God sake, keep it to yourself, okay!!!RIP Coach Knox....just wanted to say thanks for the little memorable ride my (then) young daughters got from a kind attendant at the Palm Springs Living Desert Zoo back in December 2000. I asked her how come we were riding in a Seattle Seahawks Golf Cart? She said, "Coach Chuck Knox has a home here in the area, and he had gotten the cart as a gift from Seahawks Management, and when he moved here, he donated it to the zoo."Classy move Coach Knox! 3 by RamsFanSince82 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 20 2015 So. Cal. Hall of Fame Re: Chuck Knox has passed away POST #17 Elvis, leeannknox liked this post Here's a good article from the legendary Jim Murray.http://articles.latimes.com/1990-09-16/ ... chuck-knoxGround Chuck Just a Pilot Away From Air KnoxSeptember 16, 1990|JIM MURRAYSEATTLE — They called him Ground Chuck. They called his football the School of Hard Knox. They said he played football 10 yards at a time, the way sandhogs built tunnels under rivers. Or miners dug coal. They recommended his teams wear lanterns and carry canaries.They called his team the Seahawks, but the wise guys said they should be called the Moles. They got touchdowns the way gophers get plants.But he did more with less than anyone who ever coached the game. After all, even Vince Lombardi had Bart Starr. Tom Landry had Roger Staubach. Chuck Noll had Terry Bradshaw. Paul Brown had Otto Graham. Don Shula had Bob Griese. Dan Reeves, John Elway. John Madden had Snake Stabler, Tom Flores, Jim Plunkett. Even Mike Ditka had Jim McMahon. And of course, Bill Walsh had Joe Montana.Chuck Knox had Dave Krieg. And Ron Jaworski. And Jim Zorn. And Pat Haden. And James Harris. And Joe Ferguson. These weren't your basic Slingin' Sammy Baughs.Chuck Knox is "the best coach never to get to the Super Bowl." He is, probably, the only coach ever to be fired after winning five successive divisional championships and going 12-2, 10-4, 12-2, 10-3-1 and 10-4 in the process.The owner complained he didn't look good winning. Not Hollywood enough. It reminded you of the woman who screamed hysterically for someone to save her baby son from drowning, and when someone did, she looked accusingly at him and said, "Where's his hat?"He had gotten his team within one foot of the Super Bowl twice. The first time, his Rams had the ball on the Minnesota one-foot line, fourth down and goal to go in a scoreless tie. They lined up for a chip-shot--no, a tap-in--field goal. It was blocked--and a Minnesota safety ran the ball back 90 yards for a touchdown. The Rams never recovered.Another year, the Rams had the ball on the Minnesota one-foot line again, first down and goal to go, when the Minnesota tackle, Alan Page, with nothing to lose but a six-inch penalty, jumped offside. But the official ruled the Ram guard, Tom Mack, had drawn him off. After the Rams were moved back five yards, their quarterback, James Harris, on a rollout, threw an interception. Goodby, Super Bowl, once again.Knox got shuffled off to Buffalo after that, and the next year the Rams fluked into the Super Bowl on a 9-7 record, the worst to make that summit. The gods were trying to tell Knox something.Wherever he went, he never got a quarterback. Don Shula got Dan Marino. Chuck Knox got Dan Doornink. Bill Parcells got Phil Simms. Knox got Brian Bosworth.Knox was trying to win no-limit poker hands with two treys.Were the wounds self-inflicted? Well, when Chuck Knox took the Ram job in 1972, he was quoted as saying that quarterback was "just another position." He enlarged on the philosophy by explaining that if the supporting cast were strong enough, the quarterback needn't be all-world.It was just as well he felt that way. Because he had to go to war against the all-worlds, like Fran Tarkenton and Roger Staubach, with Haden, Harris and Hadl.He almost brought it off. Knox teams were--like the coach--resourceful, patient, smart, dogged, undiscourageable. An elite unit. They just had one weakness. Knox played the cards he was dealt--and he always came up an ace short. Whenever he called, the other guys had a higher hole card: the quarterback.At Buffalo, the quarterback was a good Joe--but Ferguson, not Montana or Namath. Knox had to win games the old-fashioned way, by wagon train, not jet.Hardly any team has ever made the Super Bowl without that old ace in the hole, the super quarterback.Knox came closer than anybody. Has he had occasion to revise his earlier thinking? Is quarterback more than "just another position?" Is Ground Chuck about to become Air Knox?Throughout their history, his Seahawks have drafted running backs No. 1 (Curt Warner, John L. Williams), or linebackers (Bosworth, Tony Woods) or tackles (Andy Heck, Cortez Kennedy). Quarterbacks are nowhere on their charts.Knox sighs and says: "When I first expressed my opinion (about the relative value of quarterbacks), it was a different ballgame. Offensive linemen could not extend their arms to pass-block. Wide receivers could be checked at the line of scrimmage, even blocked below the waist, bumped and run with. You could use reasonable force to discourage quarterbacks, there was no in-the-grasp rule."Every rule that's been put into effect the last few years was designed to help the quarterback, make his role more decisive, more effective. It has become more of a quarterback's medium, this game."Now, there are two kinds of quarterbacks. There is what I call the 'because of' quarterback and the 'with' quarterback. You win 'because of' Joe Montana or John Elway. You win 'with' Phil Simms or Doug Williams."Chuck Knox has never had either kind--a "because of" or even a "with" quarterback--in his history. "To get a 'because of' quarterback, you have to go 2-12," he explains. "And if you do that, you're out of a job. Somebody else gets the benefit of the 'because of' quarterback. If, of course, you can find one."Knox's teams are landlocked because they don't have a pilot. They're like a gleaming new DC-10 that can only taxi from runway to runway, an aircraft carrier restricted to delivering tanks. If he had ever had even a "with" quarterback, he'd go from Ground Chuck to Air Knox, and the Super Bowl today might be known as Knox-ville, instead of the sovereign state of Montana. 2 by dieterbrock 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Chuck Knox has passed away POST #18 leeannknox liked this post moklerman wrote:Yeah, but I don't really count that as his era. Kind of like Gibbs 2.0 in Washington.I don't disagree, just thought we were around the same era of recollection.To me, I remember Knox as the successful coach of Seattle. Hard to believe but I had kind of adopted them as my AFC team back when I was a kid. They had a lot to root for, a QB nobody ever hear of from a school that nobody ever heard of, and WR that barely anybody wantedMy memory as Rams coach wasnt pleasant but like you said, it was akin to Gibbs 2.0RIP, he definitely lived a full life 1 by ramsman34 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Chuck Knox has passed away POST #19 PARAM wrote:The Rams were a joy to watch during his tenure from 73-77.....in the regular season. Knox (I) 54-15-1 ; 3-5 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsMartz 53-32-0 ; 3-4 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsTwo completely different styles, the same results.Arguably 10 of the best 15 years (at best) of Ram football.This story is yet, unwritten. Perhaps, the BEST years have started already? by rams74 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 1747 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Chuck Knox has passed away POST #20 leeannknox liked this post Some great memories of those Knox Rams teams. The first time I attended an NFL game in person, the last game of the 1975 regular season, Knox's Rams beat the Steelers 10-3. Tough, hard-nosed teams. Loved those teams. I always thought of him as a great coach. Sad to hear that he's gone. 1 Reply 2 / 5 1 2 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 41 posts Jul 12 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by PARAM 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Chuck Knox has passed away POST #12 leeannknox liked this post The Rams were a joy to watch during his tenure from 73-77.....in the regular season. Knox (I) 54-15-1 ; 3-5 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsMartz 53-32-0 ; 3-4 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsTwo completely different styles, the same results.Arguably 10 of the best 15 years (at best) of Ram football. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by moklerman 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Chuck Knox has passed away POST #13 dieterbrock liked this post dieterbrock wrote:Knox vol II was your time no?Yeah, but I don't really count that as his era. Kind of like Gibbs 2.0 in Washington. 1 by Elvis 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 41520 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Chuck Knox has passed away POST #14 leeannknox liked this post RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by Elvis 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 41520 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Chuck Knox has passed away POST #15 leeannknox liked this post RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by CanuckRightWinger 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Chuck Knox has passed away POST #16 aeneas1, Elvis, leeannknox liked this post Count me as another of the saddened on hearing of Ground Chuck Knox's passing. Chuck Knox's 5 season run of NFC West Championships 1973-1977 took me through my RMC MilCol years and into my first naval vessels as an idealist twenty-something. Ray Malavasi's reign saw my entrance back into civilian life....and,of course, my love of The Horns started, as a ninth-grader back in Niagara, with legendary George Allen leading Los Ramos. For the record:George Allen died in 1990 at age 72.Tommy Prothro died in 1995 at age 75.Ray Malavasi died at only 57, back in 1987.....and now Chuck Knox, gone in 2018 at 86. Stuff like this can make a baby-boomer feel his years.BTW, if anybody knows anything bad about 82-year-old John Robinson's health......for God sake, keep it to yourself, okay!!!RIP Coach Knox....just wanted to say thanks for the little memorable ride my (then) young daughters got from a kind attendant at the Palm Springs Living Desert Zoo back in December 2000. I asked her how come we were riding in a Seattle Seahawks Golf Cart? She said, "Coach Chuck Knox has a home here in the area, and he had gotten the cart as a gift from Seahawks Management, and when he moved here, he donated it to the zoo."Classy move Coach Knox! 3 by RamsFanSince82 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 20 2015 So. Cal. Hall of Fame Re: Chuck Knox has passed away POST #17 Elvis, leeannknox liked this post Here's a good article from the legendary Jim Murray.http://articles.latimes.com/1990-09-16/ ... chuck-knoxGround Chuck Just a Pilot Away From Air KnoxSeptember 16, 1990|JIM MURRAYSEATTLE — They called him Ground Chuck. They called his football the School of Hard Knox. They said he played football 10 yards at a time, the way sandhogs built tunnels under rivers. Or miners dug coal. They recommended his teams wear lanterns and carry canaries.They called his team the Seahawks, but the wise guys said they should be called the Moles. They got touchdowns the way gophers get plants.But he did more with less than anyone who ever coached the game. After all, even Vince Lombardi had Bart Starr. Tom Landry had Roger Staubach. Chuck Noll had Terry Bradshaw. Paul Brown had Otto Graham. Don Shula had Bob Griese. Dan Reeves, John Elway. John Madden had Snake Stabler, Tom Flores, Jim Plunkett. Even Mike Ditka had Jim McMahon. And of course, Bill Walsh had Joe Montana.Chuck Knox had Dave Krieg. And Ron Jaworski. And Jim Zorn. And Pat Haden. And James Harris. And Joe Ferguson. These weren't your basic Slingin' Sammy Baughs.Chuck Knox is "the best coach never to get to the Super Bowl." He is, probably, the only coach ever to be fired after winning five successive divisional championships and going 12-2, 10-4, 12-2, 10-3-1 and 10-4 in the process.The owner complained he didn't look good winning. Not Hollywood enough. It reminded you of the woman who screamed hysterically for someone to save her baby son from drowning, and when someone did, she looked accusingly at him and said, "Where's his hat?"He had gotten his team within one foot of the Super Bowl twice. The first time, his Rams had the ball on the Minnesota one-foot line, fourth down and goal to go in a scoreless tie. They lined up for a chip-shot--no, a tap-in--field goal. It was blocked--and a Minnesota safety ran the ball back 90 yards for a touchdown. The Rams never recovered.Another year, the Rams had the ball on the Minnesota one-foot line again, first down and goal to go, when the Minnesota tackle, Alan Page, with nothing to lose but a six-inch penalty, jumped offside. But the official ruled the Ram guard, Tom Mack, had drawn him off. After the Rams were moved back five yards, their quarterback, James Harris, on a rollout, threw an interception. Goodby, Super Bowl, once again.Knox got shuffled off to Buffalo after that, and the next year the Rams fluked into the Super Bowl on a 9-7 record, the worst to make that summit. The gods were trying to tell Knox something.Wherever he went, he never got a quarterback. Don Shula got Dan Marino. Chuck Knox got Dan Doornink. Bill Parcells got Phil Simms. Knox got Brian Bosworth.Knox was trying to win no-limit poker hands with two treys.Were the wounds self-inflicted? Well, when Chuck Knox took the Ram job in 1972, he was quoted as saying that quarterback was "just another position." He enlarged on the philosophy by explaining that if the supporting cast were strong enough, the quarterback needn't be all-world.It was just as well he felt that way. Because he had to go to war against the all-worlds, like Fran Tarkenton and Roger Staubach, with Haden, Harris and Hadl.He almost brought it off. Knox teams were--like the coach--resourceful, patient, smart, dogged, undiscourageable. An elite unit. They just had one weakness. Knox played the cards he was dealt--and he always came up an ace short. Whenever he called, the other guys had a higher hole card: the quarterback.At Buffalo, the quarterback was a good Joe--but Ferguson, not Montana or Namath. Knox had to win games the old-fashioned way, by wagon train, not jet.Hardly any team has ever made the Super Bowl without that old ace in the hole, the super quarterback.Knox came closer than anybody. Has he had occasion to revise his earlier thinking? Is quarterback more than "just another position?" Is Ground Chuck about to become Air Knox?Throughout their history, his Seahawks have drafted running backs No. 1 (Curt Warner, John L. Williams), or linebackers (Bosworth, Tony Woods) or tackles (Andy Heck, Cortez Kennedy). Quarterbacks are nowhere on their charts.Knox sighs and says: "When I first expressed my opinion (about the relative value of quarterbacks), it was a different ballgame. Offensive linemen could not extend their arms to pass-block. Wide receivers could be checked at the line of scrimmage, even blocked below the waist, bumped and run with. You could use reasonable force to discourage quarterbacks, there was no in-the-grasp rule."Every rule that's been put into effect the last few years was designed to help the quarterback, make his role more decisive, more effective. It has become more of a quarterback's medium, this game."Now, there are two kinds of quarterbacks. There is what I call the 'because of' quarterback and the 'with' quarterback. You win 'because of' Joe Montana or John Elway. You win 'with' Phil Simms or Doug Williams."Chuck Knox has never had either kind--a "because of" or even a "with" quarterback--in his history. "To get a 'because of' quarterback, you have to go 2-12," he explains. "And if you do that, you're out of a job. Somebody else gets the benefit of the 'because of' quarterback. If, of course, you can find one."Knox's teams are landlocked because they don't have a pilot. They're like a gleaming new DC-10 that can only taxi from runway to runway, an aircraft carrier restricted to delivering tanks. If he had ever had even a "with" quarterback, he'd go from Ground Chuck to Air Knox, and the Super Bowl today might be known as Knox-ville, instead of the sovereign state of Montana. 2 by dieterbrock 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Chuck Knox has passed away POST #18 leeannknox liked this post moklerman wrote:Yeah, but I don't really count that as his era. Kind of like Gibbs 2.0 in Washington.I don't disagree, just thought we were around the same era of recollection.To me, I remember Knox as the successful coach of Seattle. Hard to believe but I had kind of adopted them as my AFC team back when I was a kid. They had a lot to root for, a QB nobody ever hear of from a school that nobody ever heard of, and WR that barely anybody wantedMy memory as Rams coach wasnt pleasant but like you said, it was akin to Gibbs 2.0RIP, he definitely lived a full life 1 by ramsman34 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Chuck Knox has passed away POST #19 PARAM wrote:The Rams were a joy to watch during his tenure from 73-77.....in the regular season. Knox (I) 54-15-1 ; 3-5 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsMartz 53-32-0 ; 3-4 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsTwo completely different styles, the same results.Arguably 10 of the best 15 years (at best) of Ram football.This story is yet, unwritten. Perhaps, the BEST years have started already? by rams74 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 1747 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Chuck Knox has passed away POST #20 leeannknox liked this post Some great memories of those Knox Rams teams. The first time I attended an NFL game in person, the last game of the 1975 regular season, Knox's Rams beat the Steelers 10-3. Tough, hard-nosed teams. Loved those teams. I always thought of him as a great coach. Sad to hear that he's gone. 1 Reply 2 / 5 1 2 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 41 posts Jul 12 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by moklerman 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Chuck Knox has passed away POST #13 dieterbrock liked this post dieterbrock wrote:Knox vol II was your time no?Yeah, but I don't really count that as his era. Kind of like Gibbs 2.0 in Washington. 1 by Elvis 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 41520 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Chuck Knox has passed away POST #14 leeannknox liked this post RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by Elvis 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 41520 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Chuck Knox has passed away POST #15 leeannknox liked this post RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by CanuckRightWinger 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Chuck Knox has passed away POST #16 aeneas1, Elvis, leeannknox liked this post Count me as another of the saddened on hearing of Ground Chuck Knox's passing. Chuck Knox's 5 season run of NFC West Championships 1973-1977 took me through my RMC MilCol years and into my first naval vessels as an idealist twenty-something. Ray Malavasi's reign saw my entrance back into civilian life....and,of course, my love of The Horns started, as a ninth-grader back in Niagara, with legendary George Allen leading Los Ramos. For the record:George Allen died in 1990 at age 72.Tommy Prothro died in 1995 at age 75.Ray Malavasi died at only 57, back in 1987.....and now Chuck Knox, gone in 2018 at 86. Stuff like this can make a baby-boomer feel his years.BTW, if anybody knows anything bad about 82-year-old John Robinson's health......for God sake, keep it to yourself, okay!!!RIP Coach Knox....just wanted to say thanks for the little memorable ride my (then) young daughters got from a kind attendant at the Palm Springs Living Desert Zoo back in December 2000. I asked her how come we were riding in a Seattle Seahawks Golf Cart? She said, "Coach Chuck Knox has a home here in the area, and he had gotten the cart as a gift from Seahawks Management, and when he moved here, he donated it to the zoo."Classy move Coach Knox! 3 by RamsFanSince82 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 20 2015 So. Cal. Hall of Fame Re: Chuck Knox has passed away POST #17 Elvis, leeannknox liked this post Here's a good article from the legendary Jim Murray.http://articles.latimes.com/1990-09-16/ ... chuck-knoxGround Chuck Just a Pilot Away From Air KnoxSeptember 16, 1990|JIM MURRAYSEATTLE — They called him Ground Chuck. They called his football the School of Hard Knox. They said he played football 10 yards at a time, the way sandhogs built tunnels under rivers. Or miners dug coal. They recommended his teams wear lanterns and carry canaries.They called his team the Seahawks, but the wise guys said they should be called the Moles. They got touchdowns the way gophers get plants.But he did more with less than anyone who ever coached the game. After all, even Vince Lombardi had Bart Starr. Tom Landry had Roger Staubach. Chuck Noll had Terry Bradshaw. Paul Brown had Otto Graham. Don Shula had Bob Griese. Dan Reeves, John Elway. John Madden had Snake Stabler, Tom Flores, Jim Plunkett. Even Mike Ditka had Jim McMahon. And of course, Bill Walsh had Joe Montana.Chuck Knox had Dave Krieg. And Ron Jaworski. And Jim Zorn. And Pat Haden. And James Harris. And Joe Ferguson. These weren't your basic Slingin' Sammy Baughs.Chuck Knox is "the best coach never to get to the Super Bowl." He is, probably, the only coach ever to be fired after winning five successive divisional championships and going 12-2, 10-4, 12-2, 10-3-1 and 10-4 in the process.The owner complained he didn't look good winning. Not Hollywood enough. It reminded you of the woman who screamed hysterically for someone to save her baby son from drowning, and when someone did, she looked accusingly at him and said, "Where's his hat?"He had gotten his team within one foot of the Super Bowl twice. The first time, his Rams had the ball on the Minnesota one-foot line, fourth down and goal to go in a scoreless tie. They lined up for a chip-shot--no, a tap-in--field goal. It was blocked--and a Minnesota safety ran the ball back 90 yards for a touchdown. The Rams never recovered.Another year, the Rams had the ball on the Minnesota one-foot line again, first down and goal to go, when the Minnesota tackle, Alan Page, with nothing to lose but a six-inch penalty, jumped offside. But the official ruled the Ram guard, Tom Mack, had drawn him off. After the Rams were moved back five yards, their quarterback, James Harris, on a rollout, threw an interception. Goodby, Super Bowl, once again.Knox got shuffled off to Buffalo after that, and the next year the Rams fluked into the Super Bowl on a 9-7 record, the worst to make that summit. The gods were trying to tell Knox something.Wherever he went, he never got a quarterback. Don Shula got Dan Marino. Chuck Knox got Dan Doornink. Bill Parcells got Phil Simms. Knox got Brian Bosworth.Knox was trying to win no-limit poker hands with two treys.Were the wounds self-inflicted? Well, when Chuck Knox took the Ram job in 1972, he was quoted as saying that quarterback was "just another position." He enlarged on the philosophy by explaining that if the supporting cast were strong enough, the quarterback needn't be all-world.It was just as well he felt that way. Because he had to go to war against the all-worlds, like Fran Tarkenton and Roger Staubach, with Haden, Harris and Hadl.He almost brought it off. Knox teams were--like the coach--resourceful, patient, smart, dogged, undiscourageable. An elite unit. They just had one weakness. Knox played the cards he was dealt--and he always came up an ace short. Whenever he called, the other guys had a higher hole card: the quarterback.At Buffalo, the quarterback was a good Joe--but Ferguson, not Montana or Namath. Knox had to win games the old-fashioned way, by wagon train, not jet.Hardly any team has ever made the Super Bowl without that old ace in the hole, the super quarterback.Knox came closer than anybody. Has he had occasion to revise his earlier thinking? Is quarterback more than "just another position?" Is Ground Chuck about to become Air Knox?Throughout their history, his Seahawks have drafted running backs No. 1 (Curt Warner, John L. Williams), or linebackers (Bosworth, Tony Woods) or tackles (Andy Heck, Cortez Kennedy). Quarterbacks are nowhere on their charts.Knox sighs and says: "When I first expressed my opinion (about the relative value of quarterbacks), it was a different ballgame. Offensive linemen could not extend their arms to pass-block. Wide receivers could be checked at the line of scrimmage, even blocked below the waist, bumped and run with. You could use reasonable force to discourage quarterbacks, there was no in-the-grasp rule."Every rule that's been put into effect the last few years was designed to help the quarterback, make his role more decisive, more effective. It has become more of a quarterback's medium, this game."Now, there are two kinds of quarterbacks. There is what I call the 'because of' quarterback and the 'with' quarterback. You win 'because of' Joe Montana or John Elway. You win 'with' Phil Simms or Doug Williams."Chuck Knox has never had either kind--a "because of" or even a "with" quarterback--in his history. "To get a 'because of' quarterback, you have to go 2-12," he explains. "And if you do that, you're out of a job. Somebody else gets the benefit of the 'because of' quarterback. If, of course, you can find one."Knox's teams are landlocked because they don't have a pilot. They're like a gleaming new DC-10 that can only taxi from runway to runway, an aircraft carrier restricted to delivering tanks. If he had ever had even a "with" quarterback, he'd go from Ground Chuck to Air Knox, and the Super Bowl today might be known as Knox-ville, instead of the sovereign state of Montana. 2 by dieterbrock 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Chuck Knox has passed away POST #18 leeannknox liked this post moklerman wrote:Yeah, but I don't really count that as his era. Kind of like Gibbs 2.0 in Washington.I don't disagree, just thought we were around the same era of recollection.To me, I remember Knox as the successful coach of Seattle. Hard to believe but I had kind of adopted them as my AFC team back when I was a kid. They had a lot to root for, a QB nobody ever hear of from a school that nobody ever heard of, and WR that barely anybody wantedMy memory as Rams coach wasnt pleasant but like you said, it was akin to Gibbs 2.0RIP, he definitely lived a full life 1 by ramsman34 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Chuck Knox has passed away POST #19 PARAM wrote:The Rams were a joy to watch during his tenure from 73-77.....in the regular season. Knox (I) 54-15-1 ; 3-5 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsMartz 53-32-0 ; 3-4 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsTwo completely different styles, the same results.Arguably 10 of the best 15 years (at best) of Ram football.This story is yet, unwritten. Perhaps, the BEST years have started already? by rams74 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 1747 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Chuck Knox has passed away POST #20 leeannknox liked this post Some great memories of those Knox Rams teams. The first time I attended an NFL game in person, the last game of the 1975 regular season, Knox's Rams beat the Steelers 10-3. Tough, hard-nosed teams. Loved those teams. I always thought of him as a great coach. Sad to hear that he's gone. 1 Reply 2 / 5 1 2 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 41 posts Jul 12 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Elvis 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 41520 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Chuck Knox has passed away POST #14 leeannknox liked this post RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by Elvis 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 41520 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Chuck Knox has passed away POST #15 leeannknox liked this post RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by CanuckRightWinger 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Chuck Knox has passed away POST #16 aeneas1, Elvis, leeannknox liked this post Count me as another of the saddened on hearing of Ground Chuck Knox's passing. Chuck Knox's 5 season run of NFC West Championships 1973-1977 took me through my RMC MilCol years and into my first naval vessels as an idealist twenty-something. Ray Malavasi's reign saw my entrance back into civilian life....and,of course, my love of The Horns started, as a ninth-grader back in Niagara, with legendary George Allen leading Los Ramos. For the record:George Allen died in 1990 at age 72.Tommy Prothro died in 1995 at age 75.Ray Malavasi died at only 57, back in 1987.....and now Chuck Knox, gone in 2018 at 86. Stuff like this can make a baby-boomer feel his years.BTW, if anybody knows anything bad about 82-year-old John Robinson's health......for God sake, keep it to yourself, okay!!!RIP Coach Knox....just wanted to say thanks for the little memorable ride my (then) young daughters got from a kind attendant at the Palm Springs Living Desert Zoo back in December 2000. I asked her how come we were riding in a Seattle Seahawks Golf Cart? She said, "Coach Chuck Knox has a home here in the area, and he had gotten the cart as a gift from Seahawks Management, and when he moved here, he donated it to the zoo."Classy move Coach Knox! 3 by RamsFanSince82 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 20 2015 So. Cal. Hall of Fame Re: Chuck Knox has passed away POST #17 Elvis, leeannknox liked this post Here's a good article from the legendary Jim Murray.http://articles.latimes.com/1990-09-16/ ... chuck-knoxGround Chuck Just a Pilot Away From Air KnoxSeptember 16, 1990|JIM MURRAYSEATTLE — They called him Ground Chuck. They called his football the School of Hard Knox. They said he played football 10 yards at a time, the way sandhogs built tunnels under rivers. Or miners dug coal. They recommended his teams wear lanterns and carry canaries.They called his team the Seahawks, but the wise guys said they should be called the Moles. They got touchdowns the way gophers get plants.But he did more with less than anyone who ever coached the game. After all, even Vince Lombardi had Bart Starr. Tom Landry had Roger Staubach. Chuck Noll had Terry Bradshaw. Paul Brown had Otto Graham. Don Shula had Bob Griese. Dan Reeves, John Elway. John Madden had Snake Stabler, Tom Flores, Jim Plunkett. Even Mike Ditka had Jim McMahon. And of course, Bill Walsh had Joe Montana.Chuck Knox had Dave Krieg. And Ron Jaworski. And Jim Zorn. And Pat Haden. And James Harris. And Joe Ferguson. These weren't your basic Slingin' Sammy Baughs.Chuck Knox is "the best coach never to get to the Super Bowl." He is, probably, the only coach ever to be fired after winning five successive divisional championships and going 12-2, 10-4, 12-2, 10-3-1 and 10-4 in the process.The owner complained he didn't look good winning. Not Hollywood enough. It reminded you of the woman who screamed hysterically for someone to save her baby son from drowning, and when someone did, she looked accusingly at him and said, "Where's his hat?"He had gotten his team within one foot of the Super Bowl twice. The first time, his Rams had the ball on the Minnesota one-foot line, fourth down and goal to go in a scoreless tie. They lined up for a chip-shot--no, a tap-in--field goal. It was blocked--and a Minnesota safety ran the ball back 90 yards for a touchdown. The Rams never recovered.Another year, the Rams had the ball on the Minnesota one-foot line again, first down and goal to go, when the Minnesota tackle, Alan Page, with nothing to lose but a six-inch penalty, jumped offside. But the official ruled the Ram guard, Tom Mack, had drawn him off. After the Rams were moved back five yards, their quarterback, James Harris, on a rollout, threw an interception. Goodby, Super Bowl, once again.Knox got shuffled off to Buffalo after that, and the next year the Rams fluked into the Super Bowl on a 9-7 record, the worst to make that summit. The gods were trying to tell Knox something.Wherever he went, he never got a quarterback. Don Shula got Dan Marino. Chuck Knox got Dan Doornink. Bill Parcells got Phil Simms. Knox got Brian Bosworth.Knox was trying to win no-limit poker hands with two treys.Were the wounds self-inflicted? Well, when Chuck Knox took the Ram job in 1972, he was quoted as saying that quarterback was "just another position." He enlarged on the philosophy by explaining that if the supporting cast were strong enough, the quarterback needn't be all-world.It was just as well he felt that way. Because he had to go to war against the all-worlds, like Fran Tarkenton and Roger Staubach, with Haden, Harris and Hadl.He almost brought it off. Knox teams were--like the coach--resourceful, patient, smart, dogged, undiscourageable. An elite unit. They just had one weakness. Knox played the cards he was dealt--and he always came up an ace short. Whenever he called, the other guys had a higher hole card: the quarterback.At Buffalo, the quarterback was a good Joe--but Ferguson, not Montana or Namath. Knox had to win games the old-fashioned way, by wagon train, not jet.Hardly any team has ever made the Super Bowl without that old ace in the hole, the super quarterback.Knox came closer than anybody. Has he had occasion to revise his earlier thinking? Is quarterback more than "just another position?" Is Ground Chuck about to become Air Knox?Throughout their history, his Seahawks have drafted running backs No. 1 (Curt Warner, John L. Williams), or linebackers (Bosworth, Tony Woods) or tackles (Andy Heck, Cortez Kennedy). Quarterbacks are nowhere on their charts.Knox sighs and says: "When I first expressed my opinion (about the relative value of quarterbacks), it was a different ballgame. Offensive linemen could not extend their arms to pass-block. Wide receivers could be checked at the line of scrimmage, even blocked below the waist, bumped and run with. You could use reasonable force to discourage quarterbacks, there was no in-the-grasp rule."Every rule that's been put into effect the last few years was designed to help the quarterback, make his role more decisive, more effective. It has become more of a quarterback's medium, this game."Now, there are two kinds of quarterbacks. There is what I call the 'because of' quarterback and the 'with' quarterback. You win 'because of' Joe Montana or John Elway. You win 'with' Phil Simms or Doug Williams."Chuck Knox has never had either kind--a "because of" or even a "with" quarterback--in his history. "To get a 'because of' quarterback, you have to go 2-12," he explains. "And if you do that, you're out of a job. Somebody else gets the benefit of the 'because of' quarterback. If, of course, you can find one."Knox's teams are landlocked because they don't have a pilot. They're like a gleaming new DC-10 that can only taxi from runway to runway, an aircraft carrier restricted to delivering tanks. If he had ever had even a "with" quarterback, he'd go from Ground Chuck to Air Knox, and the Super Bowl today might be known as Knox-ville, instead of the sovereign state of Montana. 2 by dieterbrock 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Chuck Knox has passed away POST #18 leeannknox liked this post moklerman wrote:Yeah, but I don't really count that as his era. Kind of like Gibbs 2.0 in Washington.I don't disagree, just thought we were around the same era of recollection.To me, I remember Knox as the successful coach of Seattle. Hard to believe but I had kind of adopted them as my AFC team back when I was a kid. They had a lot to root for, a QB nobody ever hear of from a school that nobody ever heard of, and WR that barely anybody wantedMy memory as Rams coach wasnt pleasant but like you said, it was akin to Gibbs 2.0RIP, he definitely lived a full life 1 by ramsman34 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Chuck Knox has passed away POST #19 PARAM wrote:The Rams were a joy to watch during his tenure from 73-77.....in the regular season. Knox (I) 54-15-1 ; 3-5 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsMartz 53-32-0 ; 3-4 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsTwo completely different styles, the same results.Arguably 10 of the best 15 years (at best) of Ram football.This story is yet, unwritten. Perhaps, the BEST years have started already? by rams74 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 1747 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Chuck Knox has passed away POST #20 leeannknox liked this post Some great memories of those Knox Rams teams. The first time I attended an NFL game in person, the last game of the 1975 regular season, Knox's Rams beat the Steelers 10-3. Tough, hard-nosed teams. Loved those teams. I always thought of him as a great coach. Sad to hear that he's gone. 1 Reply 2 / 5 1 2 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 41 posts Jul 12 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Elvis 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 41520 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Chuck Knox has passed away POST #15 leeannknox liked this post RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by CanuckRightWinger 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Chuck Knox has passed away POST #16 aeneas1, Elvis, leeannknox liked this post Count me as another of the saddened on hearing of Ground Chuck Knox's passing. Chuck Knox's 5 season run of NFC West Championships 1973-1977 took me through my RMC MilCol years and into my first naval vessels as an idealist twenty-something. Ray Malavasi's reign saw my entrance back into civilian life....and,of course, my love of The Horns started, as a ninth-grader back in Niagara, with legendary George Allen leading Los Ramos. For the record:George Allen died in 1990 at age 72.Tommy Prothro died in 1995 at age 75.Ray Malavasi died at only 57, back in 1987.....and now Chuck Knox, gone in 2018 at 86. Stuff like this can make a baby-boomer feel his years.BTW, if anybody knows anything bad about 82-year-old John Robinson's health......for God sake, keep it to yourself, okay!!!RIP Coach Knox....just wanted to say thanks for the little memorable ride my (then) young daughters got from a kind attendant at the Palm Springs Living Desert Zoo back in December 2000. I asked her how come we were riding in a Seattle Seahawks Golf Cart? She said, "Coach Chuck Knox has a home here in the area, and he had gotten the cart as a gift from Seahawks Management, and when he moved here, he donated it to the zoo."Classy move Coach Knox! 3 by RamsFanSince82 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 20 2015 So. Cal. Hall of Fame Re: Chuck Knox has passed away POST #17 Elvis, leeannknox liked this post Here's a good article from the legendary Jim Murray.http://articles.latimes.com/1990-09-16/ ... chuck-knoxGround Chuck Just a Pilot Away From Air KnoxSeptember 16, 1990|JIM MURRAYSEATTLE — They called him Ground Chuck. They called his football the School of Hard Knox. They said he played football 10 yards at a time, the way sandhogs built tunnels under rivers. Or miners dug coal. They recommended his teams wear lanterns and carry canaries.They called his team the Seahawks, but the wise guys said they should be called the Moles. They got touchdowns the way gophers get plants.But he did more with less than anyone who ever coached the game. After all, even Vince Lombardi had Bart Starr. Tom Landry had Roger Staubach. Chuck Noll had Terry Bradshaw. Paul Brown had Otto Graham. Don Shula had Bob Griese. Dan Reeves, John Elway. John Madden had Snake Stabler, Tom Flores, Jim Plunkett. Even Mike Ditka had Jim McMahon. And of course, Bill Walsh had Joe Montana.Chuck Knox had Dave Krieg. And Ron Jaworski. And Jim Zorn. And Pat Haden. And James Harris. And Joe Ferguson. These weren't your basic Slingin' Sammy Baughs.Chuck Knox is "the best coach never to get to the Super Bowl." He is, probably, the only coach ever to be fired after winning five successive divisional championships and going 12-2, 10-4, 12-2, 10-3-1 and 10-4 in the process.The owner complained he didn't look good winning. Not Hollywood enough. It reminded you of the woman who screamed hysterically for someone to save her baby son from drowning, and when someone did, she looked accusingly at him and said, "Where's his hat?"He had gotten his team within one foot of the Super Bowl twice. The first time, his Rams had the ball on the Minnesota one-foot line, fourth down and goal to go in a scoreless tie. They lined up for a chip-shot--no, a tap-in--field goal. It was blocked--and a Minnesota safety ran the ball back 90 yards for a touchdown. The Rams never recovered.Another year, the Rams had the ball on the Minnesota one-foot line again, first down and goal to go, when the Minnesota tackle, Alan Page, with nothing to lose but a six-inch penalty, jumped offside. But the official ruled the Ram guard, Tom Mack, had drawn him off. After the Rams were moved back five yards, their quarterback, James Harris, on a rollout, threw an interception. Goodby, Super Bowl, once again.Knox got shuffled off to Buffalo after that, and the next year the Rams fluked into the Super Bowl on a 9-7 record, the worst to make that summit. The gods were trying to tell Knox something.Wherever he went, he never got a quarterback. Don Shula got Dan Marino. Chuck Knox got Dan Doornink. Bill Parcells got Phil Simms. Knox got Brian Bosworth.Knox was trying to win no-limit poker hands with two treys.Were the wounds self-inflicted? Well, when Chuck Knox took the Ram job in 1972, he was quoted as saying that quarterback was "just another position." He enlarged on the philosophy by explaining that if the supporting cast were strong enough, the quarterback needn't be all-world.It was just as well he felt that way. Because he had to go to war against the all-worlds, like Fran Tarkenton and Roger Staubach, with Haden, Harris and Hadl.He almost brought it off. Knox teams were--like the coach--resourceful, patient, smart, dogged, undiscourageable. An elite unit. They just had one weakness. Knox played the cards he was dealt--and he always came up an ace short. Whenever he called, the other guys had a higher hole card: the quarterback.At Buffalo, the quarterback was a good Joe--but Ferguson, not Montana or Namath. Knox had to win games the old-fashioned way, by wagon train, not jet.Hardly any team has ever made the Super Bowl without that old ace in the hole, the super quarterback.Knox came closer than anybody. Has he had occasion to revise his earlier thinking? Is quarterback more than "just another position?" Is Ground Chuck about to become Air Knox?Throughout their history, his Seahawks have drafted running backs No. 1 (Curt Warner, John L. Williams), or linebackers (Bosworth, Tony Woods) or tackles (Andy Heck, Cortez Kennedy). Quarterbacks are nowhere on their charts.Knox sighs and says: "When I first expressed my opinion (about the relative value of quarterbacks), it was a different ballgame. Offensive linemen could not extend their arms to pass-block. Wide receivers could be checked at the line of scrimmage, even blocked below the waist, bumped and run with. You could use reasonable force to discourage quarterbacks, there was no in-the-grasp rule."Every rule that's been put into effect the last few years was designed to help the quarterback, make his role more decisive, more effective. It has become more of a quarterback's medium, this game."Now, there are two kinds of quarterbacks. There is what I call the 'because of' quarterback and the 'with' quarterback. You win 'because of' Joe Montana or John Elway. You win 'with' Phil Simms or Doug Williams."Chuck Knox has never had either kind--a "because of" or even a "with" quarterback--in his history. "To get a 'because of' quarterback, you have to go 2-12," he explains. "And if you do that, you're out of a job. Somebody else gets the benefit of the 'because of' quarterback. If, of course, you can find one."Knox's teams are landlocked because they don't have a pilot. They're like a gleaming new DC-10 that can only taxi from runway to runway, an aircraft carrier restricted to delivering tanks. If he had ever had even a "with" quarterback, he'd go from Ground Chuck to Air Knox, and the Super Bowl today might be known as Knox-ville, instead of the sovereign state of Montana. 2 by dieterbrock 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Chuck Knox has passed away POST #18 leeannknox liked this post moklerman wrote:Yeah, but I don't really count that as his era. Kind of like Gibbs 2.0 in Washington.I don't disagree, just thought we were around the same era of recollection.To me, I remember Knox as the successful coach of Seattle. Hard to believe but I had kind of adopted them as my AFC team back when I was a kid. They had a lot to root for, a QB nobody ever hear of from a school that nobody ever heard of, and WR that barely anybody wantedMy memory as Rams coach wasnt pleasant but like you said, it was akin to Gibbs 2.0RIP, he definitely lived a full life 1 by ramsman34 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Chuck Knox has passed away POST #19 PARAM wrote:The Rams were a joy to watch during his tenure from 73-77.....in the regular season. Knox (I) 54-15-1 ; 3-5 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsMartz 53-32-0 ; 3-4 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsTwo completely different styles, the same results.Arguably 10 of the best 15 years (at best) of Ram football.This story is yet, unwritten. Perhaps, the BEST years have started already? by rams74 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 1747 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Chuck Knox has passed away POST #20 leeannknox liked this post Some great memories of those Knox Rams teams. The first time I attended an NFL game in person, the last game of the 1975 regular season, Knox's Rams beat the Steelers 10-3. Tough, hard-nosed teams. Loved those teams. I always thought of him as a great coach. Sad to hear that he's gone. 1 Reply 2 / 5 1 2 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 41 posts Jul 12 2025
by CanuckRightWinger 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Chuck Knox has passed away POST #16 aeneas1, Elvis, leeannknox liked this post Count me as another of the saddened on hearing of Ground Chuck Knox's passing. Chuck Knox's 5 season run of NFC West Championships 1973-1977 took me through my RMC MilCol years and into my first naval vessels as an idealist twenty-something. Ray Malavasi's reign saw my entrance back into civilian life....and,of course, my love of The Horns started, as a ninth-grader back in Niagara, with legendary George Allen leading Los Ramos. For the record:George Allen died in 1990 at age 72.Tommy Prothro died in 1995 at age 75.Ray Malavasi died at only 57, back in 1987.....and now Chuck Knox, gone in 2018 at 86. Stuff like this can make a baby-boomer feel his years.BTW, if anybody knows anything bad about 82-year-old John Robinson's health......for God sake, keep it to yourself, okay!!!RIP Coach Knox....just wanted to say thanks for the little memorable ride my (then) young daughters got from a kind attendant at the Palm Springs Living Desert Zoo back in December 2000. I asked her how come we were riding in a Seattle Seahawks Golf Cart? She said, "Coach Chuck Knox has a home here in the area, and he had gotten the cart as a gift from Seahawks Management, and when he moved here, he donated it to the zoo."Classy move Coach Knox! 3 by RamsFanSince82 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 20 2015 So. Cal. Hall of Fame Re: Chuck Knox has passed away POST #17 Elvis, leeannknox liked this post Here's a good article from the legendary Jim Murray.http://articles.latimes.com/1990-09-16/ ... chuck-knoxGround Chuck Just a Pilot Away From Air KnoxSeptember 16, 1990|JIM MURRAYSEATTLE — They called him Ground Chuck. They called his football the School of Hard Knox. They said he played football 10 yards at a time, the way sandhogs built tunnels under rivers. Or miners dug coal. They recommended his teams wear lanterns and carry canaries.They called his team the Seahawks, but the wise guys said they should be called the Moles. They got touchdowns the way gophers get plants.But he did more with less than anyone who ever coached the game. After all, even Vince Lombardi had Bart Starr. Tom Landry had Roger Staubach. Chuck Noll had Terry Bradshaw. Paul Brown had Otto Graham. Don Shula had Bob Griese. Dan Reeves, John Elway. John Madden had Snake Stabler, Tom Flores, Jim Plunkett. Even Mike Ditka had Jim McMahon. And of course, Bill Walsh had Joe Montana.Chuck Knox had Dave Krieg. And Ron Jaworski. And Jim Zorn. And Pat Haden. And James Harris. And Joe Ferguson. These weren't your basic Slingin' Sammy Baughs.Chuck Knox is "the best coach never to get to the Super Bowl." He is, probably, the only coach ever to be fired after winning five successive divisional championships and going 12-2, 10-4, 12-2, 10-3-1 and 10-4 in the process.The owner complained he didn't look good winning. Not Hollywood enough. It reminded you of the woman who screamed hysterically for someone to save her baby son from drowning, and when someone did, she looked accusingly at him and said, "Where's his hat?"He had gotten his team within one foot of the Super Bowl twice. The first time, his Rams had the ball on the Minnesota one-foot line, fourth down and goal to go in a scoreless tie. They lined up for a chip-shot--no, a tap-in--field goal. It was blocked--and a Minnesota safety ran the ball back 90 yards for a touchdown. The Rams never recovered.Another year, the Rams had the ball on the Minnesota one-foot line again, first down and goal to go, when the Minnesota tackle, Alan Page, with nothing to lose but a six-inch penalty, jumped offside. But the official ruled the Ram guard, Tom Mack, had drawn him off. After the Rams were moved back five yards, their quarterback, James Harris, on a rollout, threw an interception. Goodby, Super Bowl, once again.Knox got shuffled off to Buffalo after that, and the next year the Rams fluked into the Super Bowl on a 9-7 record, the worst to make that summit. The gods were trying to tell Knox something.Wherever he went, he never got a quarterback. Don Shula got Dan Marino. Chuck Knox got Dan Doornink. Bill Parcells got Phil Simms. Knox got Brian Bosworth.Knox was trying to win no-limit poker hands with two treys.Were the wounds self-inflicted? Well, when Chuck Knox took the Ram job in 1972, he was quoted as saying that quarterback was "just another position." He enlarged on the philosophy by explaining that if the supporting cast were strong enough, the quarterback needn't be all-world.It was just as well he felt that way. Because he had to go to war against the all-worlds, like Fran Tarkenton and Roger Staubach, with Haden, Harris and Hadl.He almost brought it off. Knox teams were--like the coach--resourceful, patient, smart, dogged, undiscourageable. An elite unit. They just had one weakness. Knox played the cards he was dealt--and he always came up an ace short. Whenever he called, the other guys had a higher hole card: the quarterback.At Buffalo, the quarterback was a good Joe--but Ferguson, not Montana or Namath. Knox had to win games the old-fashioned way, by wagon train, not jet.Hardly any team has ever made the Super Bowl without that old ace in the hole, the super quarterback.Knox came closer than anybody. Has he had occasion to revise his earlier thinking? Is quarterback more than "just another position?" Is Ground Chuck about to become Air Knox?Throughout their history, his Seahawks have drafted running backs No. 1 (Curt Warner, John L. Williams), or linebackers (Bosworth, Tony Woods) or tackles (Andy Heck, Cortez Kennedy). Quarterbacks are nowhere on their charts.Knox sighs and says: "When I first expressed my opinion (about the relative value of quarterbacks), it was a different ballgame. Offensive linemen could not extend their arms to pass-block. Wide receivers could be checked at the line of scrimmage, even blocked below the waist, bumped and run with. You could use reasonable force to discourage quarterbacks, there was no in-the-grasp rule."Every rule that's been put into effect the last few years was designed to help the quarterback, make his role more decisive, more effective. It has become more of a quarterback's medium, this game."Now, there are two kinds of quarterbacks. There is what I call the 'because of' quarterback and the 'with' quarterback. You win 'because of' Joe Montana or John Elway. You win 'with' Phil Simms or Doug Williams."Chuck Knox has never had either kind--a "because of" or even a "with" quarterback--in his history. "To get a 'because of' quarterback, you have to go 2-12," he explains. "And if you do that, you're out of a job. Somebody else gets the benefit of the 'because of' quarterback. If, of course, you can find one."Knox's teams are landlocked because they don't have a pilot. They're like a gleaming new DC-10 that can only taxi from runway to runway, an aircraft carrier restricted to delivering tanks. If he had ever had even a "with" quarterback, he'd go from Ground Chuck to Air Knox, and the Super Bowl today might be known as Knox-ville, instead of the sovereign state of Montana. 2 by dieterbrock 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Chuck Knox has passed away POST #18 leeannknox liked this post moklerman wrote:Yeah, but I don't really count that as his era. Kind of like Gibbs 2.0 in Washington.I don't disagree, just thought we were around the same era of recollection.To me, I remember Knox as the successful coach of Seattle. Hard to believe but I had kind of adopted them as my AFC team back when I was a kid. They had a lot to root for, a QB nobody ever hear of from a school that nobody ever heard of, and WR that barely anybody wantedMy memory as Rams coach wasnt pleasant but like you said, it was akin to Gibbs 2.0RIP, he definitely lived a full life 1 by ramsman34 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Chuck Knox has passed away POST #19 PARAM wrote:The Rams were a joy to watch during his tenure from 73-77.....in the regular season. Knox (I) 54-15-1 ; 3-5 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsMartz 53-32-0 ; 3-4 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsTwo completely different styles, the same results.Arguably 10 of the best 15 years (at best) of Ram football.This story is yet, unwritten. Perhaps, the BEST years have started already? by rams74 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 1747 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Chuck Knox has passed away POST #20 leeannknox liked this post Some great memories of those Knox Rams teams. The first time I attended an NFL game in person, the last game of the 1975 regular season, Knox's Rams beat the Steelers 10-3. Tough, hard-nosed teams. Loved those teams. I always thought of him as a great coach. Sad to hear that he's gone. 1 Reply 2 / 5 1 2 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 41 posts Jul 12 2025
by RamsFanSince82 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 20 2015 So. Cal. Hall of Fame Re: Chuck Knox has passed away POST #17 Elvis, leeannknox liked this post Here's a good article from the legendary Jim Murray.http://articles.latimes.com/1990-09-16/ ... chuck-knoxGround Chuck Just a Pilot Away From Air KnoxSeptember 16, 1990|JIM MURRAYSEATTLE — They called him Ground Chuck. They called his football the School of Hard Knox. They said he played football 10 yards at a time, the way sandhogs built tunnels under rivers. Or miners dug coal. They recommended his teams wear lanterns and carry canaries.They called his team the Seahawks, but the wise guys said they should be called the Moles. They got touchdowns the way gophers get plants.But he did more with less than anyone who ever coached the game. After all, even Vince Lombardi had Bart Starr. Tom Landry had Roger Staubach. Chuck Noll had Terry Bradshaw. Paul Brown had Otto Graham. Don Shula had Bob Griese. Dan Reeves, John Elway. John Madden had Snake Stabler, Tom Flores, Jim Plunkett. Even Mike Ditka had Jim McMahon. And of course, Bill Walsh had Joe Montana.Chuck Knox had Dave Krieg. And Ron Jaworski. And Jim Zorn. And Pat Haden. And James Harris. And Joe Ferguson. These weren't your basic Slingin' Sammy Baughs.Chuck Knox is "the best coach never to get to the Super Bowl." He is, probably, the only coach ever to be fired after winning five successive divisional championships and going 12-2, 10-4, 12-2, 10-3-1 and 10-4 in the process.The owner complained he didn't look good winning. Not Hollywood enough. It reminded you of the woman who screamed hysterically for someone to save her baby son from drowning, and when someone did, she looked accusingly at him and said, "Where's his hat?"He had gotten his team within one foot of the Super Bowl twice. The first time, his Rams had the ball on the Minnesota one-foot line, fourth down and goal to go in a scoreless tie. They lined up for a chip-shot--no, a tap-in--field goal. It was blocked--and a Minnesota safety ran the ball back 90 yards for a touchdown. The Rams never recovered.Another year, the Rams had the ball on the Minnesota one-foot line again, first down and goal to go, when the Minnesota tackle, Alan Page, with nothing to lose but a six-inch penalty, jumped offside. But the official ruled the Ram guard, Tom Mack, had drawn him off. After the Rams were moved back five yards, their quarterback, James Harris, on a rollout, threw an interception. Goodby, Super Bowl, once again.Knox got shuffled off to Buffalo after that, and the next year the Rams fluked into the Super Bowl on a 9-7 record, the worst to make that summit. The gods were trying to tell Knox something.Wherever he went, he never got a quarterback. Don Shula got Dan Marino. Chuck Knox got Dan Doornink. Bill Parcells got Phil Simms. Knox got Brian Bosworth.Knox was trying to win no-limit poker hands with two treys.Were the wounds self-inflicted? Well, when Chuck Knox took the Ram job in 1972, he was quoted as saying that quarterback was "just another position." He enlarged on the philosophy by explaining that if the supporting cast were strong enough, the quarterback needn't be all-world.It was just as well he felt that way. Because he had to go to war against the all-worlds, like Fran Tarkenton and Roger Staubach, with Haden, Harris and Hadl.He almost brought it off. Knox teams were--like the coach--resourceful, patient, smart, dogged, undiscourageable. An elite unit. They just had one weakness. Knox played the cards he was dealt--and he always came up an ace short. Whenever he called, the other guys had a higher hole card: the quarterback.At Buffalo, the quarterback was a good Joe--but Ferguson, not Montana or Namath. Knox had to win games the old-fashioned way, by wagon train, not jet.Hardly any team has ever made the Super Bowl without that old ace in the hole, the super quarterback.Knox came closer than anybody. Has he had occasion to revise his earlier thinking? Is quarterback more than "just another position?" Is Ground Chuck about to become Air Knox?Throughout their history, his Seahawks have drafted running backs No. 1 (Curt Warner, John L. Williams), or linebackers (Bosworth, Tony Woods) or tackles (Andy Heck, Cortez Kennedy). Quarterbacks are nowhere on their charts.Knox sighs and says: "When I first expressed my opinion (about the relative value of quarterbacks), it was a different ballgame. Offensive linemen could not extend their arms to pass-block. Wide receivers could be checked at the line of scrimmage, even blocked below the waist, bumped and run with. You could use reasonable force to discourage quarterbacks, there was no in-the-grasp rule."Every rule that's been put into effect the last few years was designed to help the quarterback, make his role more decisive, more effective. It has become more of a quarterback's medium, this game."Now, there are two kinds of quarterbacks. There is what I call the 'because of' quarterback and the 'with' quarterback. You win 'because of' Joe Montana or John Elway. You win 'with' Phil Simms or Doug Williams."Chuck Knox has never had either kind--a "because of" or even a "with" quarterback--in his history. "To get a 'because of' quarterback, you have to go 2-12," he explains. "And if you do that, you're out of a job. Somebody else gets the benefit of the 'because of' quarterback. If, of course, you can find one."Knox's teams are landlocked because they don't have a pilot. They're like a gleaming new DC-10 that can only taxi from runway to runway, an aircraft carrier restricted to delivering tanks. If he had ever had even a "with" quarterback, he'd go from Ground Chuck to Air Knox, and the Super Bowl today might be known as Knox-ville, instead of the sovereign state of Montana. 2 by dieterbrock 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Chuck Knox has passed away POST #18 leeannknox liked this post moklerman wrote:Yeah, but I don't really count that as his era. Kind of like Gibbs 2.0 in Washington.I don't disagree, just thought we were around the same era of recollection.To me, I remember Knox as the successful coach of Seattle. Hard to believe but I had kind of adopted them as my AFC team back when I was a kid. They had a lot to root for, a QB nobody ever hear of from a school that nobody ever heard of, and WR that barely anybody wantedMy memory as Rams coach wasnt pleasant but like you said, it was akin to Gibbs 2.0RIP, he definitely lived a full life 1 by ramsman34 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Chuck Knox has passed away POST #19 PARAM wrote:The Rams were a joy to watch during his tenure from 73-77.....in the regular season. Knox (I) 54-15-1 ; 3-5 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsMartz 53-32-0 ; 3-4 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsTwo completely different styles, the same results.Arguably 10 of the best 15 years (at best) of Ram football.This story is yet, unwritten. Perhaps, the BEST years have started already? by rams74 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 1747 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Chuck Knox has passed away POST #20 leeannknox liked this post Some great memories of those Knox Rams teams. The first time I attended an NFL game in person, the last game of the 1975 regular season, Knox's Rams beat the Steelers 10-3. Tough, hard-nosed teams. Loved those teams. I always thought of him as a great coach. Sad to hear that he's gone. 1 Reply 2 / 5 1 2 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 41 posts Jul 12 2025
by dieterbrock 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Chuck Knox has passed away POST #18 leeannknox liked this post moklerman wrote:Yeah, but I don't really count that as his era. Kind of like Gibbs 2.0 in Washington.I don't disagree, just thought we were around the same era of recollection.To me, I remember Knox as the successful coach of Seattle. Hard to believe but I had kind of adopted them as my AFC team back when I was a kid. They had a lot to root for, a QB nobody ever hear of from a school that nobody ever heard of, and WR that barely anybody wantedMy memory as Rams coach wasnt pleasant but like you said, it was akin to Gibbs 2.0RIP, he definitely lived a full life 1 by ramsman34 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Chuck Knox has passed away POST #19 PARAM wrote:The Rams were a joy to watch during his tenure from 73-77.....in the regular season. Knox (I) 54-15-1 ; 3-5 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsMartz 53-32-0 ; 3-4 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsTwo completely different styles, the same results.Arguably 10 of the best 15 years (at best) of Ram football.This story is yet, unwritten. Perhaps, the BEST years have started already? by rams74 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 1747 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Chuck Knox has passed away POST #20 leeannknox liked this post Some great memories of those Knox Rams teams. The first time I attended an NFL game in person, the last game of the 1975 regular season, Knox's Rams beat the Steelers 10-3. Tough, hard-nosed teams. Loved those teams. I always thought of him as a great coach. Sad to hear that he's gone. 1 Reply 2 / 5 1 2 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 41 posts Jul 12 2025
by ramsman34 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Chuck Knox has passed away POST #19 PARAM wrote:The Rams were a joy to watch during his tenure from 73-77.....in the regular season. Knox (I) 54-15-1 ; 3-5 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsMartz 53-32-0 ; 3-4 in the postseason with 0 ChampionshipsTwo completely different styles, the same results.Arguably 10 of the best 15 years (at best) of Ram football.This story is yet, unwritten. Perhaps, the BEST years have started already? by rams74 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 1747 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Chuck Knox has passed away POST #20 leeannknox liked this post Some great memories of those Knox Rams teams. The first time I attended an NFL game in person, the last game of the 1975 regular season, Knox's Rams beat the Steelers 10-3. Tough, hard-nosed teams. Loved those teams. I always thought of him as a great coach. Sad to hear that he's gone. 1 Reply 2 / 5 1 2 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 41 posts Jul 12 2025
by rams74 7 years 1 month ago Total posts: 1747 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Chuck Knox has passed away POST #20 leeannknox liked this post Some great memories of those Knox Rams teams. The first time I attended an NFL game in person, the last game of the 1975 regular season, Knox's Rams beat the Steelers 10-3. Tough, hard-nosed teams. Loved those teams. I always thought of him as a great coach. Sad to hear that he's gone. 1 Reply 2 / 5 1 2 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business