[Hacksaw_64]

Foles throws 4 picks and costs the Rams the game. But this thread is about believing in him and tearing Bradford down? The Kool-Aid is 100+ proof.

Alright, the wonkey eye comment was in poor taste, but it's not meant as a performance comments about the guy. It was more of a joke.
JL55 was just saying something he felt was remarkable about Foles5. I never did hear him say that about Bradford,

or maybe I missed it.

I got that, it's just humorous to me that Bradford's even brought up at all after Foles throws 4 picks. Any other QB, including Bradford, would have been getting ripped to shreds but not only is Foles not getting that, he's getting praised! Not only is he getting praised, his predecessor is the one getting criticism! And no one knows if Laurinitus was even referencing Bradford. Bizarro.

Foles = God

Bradford = Devil

[Hacksaw]

Alright, the wonkey eye comment was in poor taste, but it's not meant as a performance comments about the guy. It was more of a joke.
JL55 was just saying something he felt was remarkable about Foles5. I never did hear him say that about Bradford,

or maybe I missed it.

I got that, it's just humorous to me that Bradford's even brought up at all after Foles throws 4 picks. Any other QB, including Bradford, would have been getting ripped to shreds but not only is Foles not getting that, he's getting praised! Not only is he getting praised, his predecessor is the one getting criticism! And no one knows if Laurinitus was even referencing Bradford. Bizarro.

Foles = God

Bradford = Devil

Thank you lol

[Rams Dominate]

Saw it posted on ROD and I thought it was excellent, poster said (and I paraphrase) "We wondered if we were going to get the 27-2 Foles or the 13-10 version. We've seen flashes of both"
I liked Foles, even though I detest the Eagles. I am psyched he's here and support him totally. But no excuses, he flat out sucked Sunday. He's shown us that he can get it done amongst heavy pass rush before. If hes going to be the guy, these games just cant happen

Really nice post dieter, couldn't have put it better...+1

[Hacksaw]

LB Clay Matthews fined $17,363 for hit on Rams QB Nick Foles

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13903 ... nick-foles


GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Green Bay Packers linebacker Clay Matthews was fined $17,363 for his first-quarter hit on St. Louis Rams quarterback Nick Foles, the NFL announced Friday.

Matthews, who was not penalized, was fined as a first-time offender because his 2013 fine, which also was for roughing Foles, then a member of the Philadelphia Eagles, was rescinded upon appeal.

Former NFL head of officiating Mike Pereira said during the game that Matthews should have been penalized for the hit because it came against a defenseless player and with the crown of the helmet. Rams coach Jeff Fisher also felt there should have been a penalty called on the play.

Matthews said earlier this week that a fine wouldn't cause him to alter the way he plays.

"You play hard," Matthews said. "I play hard. What happens is what happens. I don't think anybody in this league, hopefully, intentionally goes out there to break the rules. You know, when you play hard, you have no regrets. That's how I play, whether it's a facemask or a low hit on the quarterback. I don't think anybody intentionally, especially myself, goes out there and tries to inflict illegal hits or pain or whatever you like to call it. It's just a byproduct of playing hard, I believe."

Matthews has also been fined in the past for hits on 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick and Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson, but neither was for roughing the passer. The fine against Kaepernick was for a late hit out of bounds. The hit against Wilson, which was for an illegal blindside block during an interception return in the NFC Championship Game last season, cost him $22,050.

[Stranger]

LB Clay Matthews fined $17,363 for hit on Rams QB Nick Foles

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13903 ... nick-foles


GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Green Bay Packers linebacker Clay Matthews was fined $17,363 for his first-quarter hit on St. Louis Rams quarterback Nick Foles, the NFL announced Friday.

Matthews, who was not penalized, was fined as a first-time offender because his 2013 fine, which also was for roughing Foles, then a member of the Philadelphia Eagles, was rescinded upon appeal.

Former NFL head of officiating Mike Pereira said during the game that Matthews should have been penalized for the hit because it came against a defenseless player and with the crown of the helmet. Rams coach Jeff Fisher also felt there should have been a penalty called on the play.

Matthews said earlier this week that a fine wouldn't cause him to alter the way he plays.

"You play hard," Matthews said. "I play hard. What happens is what happens. I don't think anybody in this league, hopefully, intentionally goes out there to break the rules. You know, when you play hard, you have no regrets. That's how I play, whether it's a facemask or a low hit on the quarterback. I don't think anybody intentionally, especially myself, goes out there and tries to inflict illegal hits or pain or whatever you like to call it. It's just a byproduct of playing hard, I believe."

Matthews has also been fined in the past for hits on 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick and Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson, but neither was for roughing the passer. The fine against Kaepernick was for a late hit out of bounds. The hit against Wilson, which was for an illegal blindside block during an interception return in the NFC Championship Game last season, cost him $22,050.

F yeah!!!

[snackdaddy]

All these compliments about Foles are nice. Toughness, get back on the horse, etc. We said some complimentary things about Bradford. How he got together on his own with his receivers. How hard he works, etc. Where did that get us? Everyone works hard at this level. Everyone's tough. But not everyone wins. Simple as that.

I'm not sold on Foles right now. I see similar outcomes with Foles as we did with Bradford. Some nice games, some stinkers, not enough wins. Its early, so I'll give Foles a pass for now. But I'm beginning to wonder. Two of those INT's were because he was hit. The other two he just made bad throws/decisions. I wish they didn't extend him. If he ain't the guy moving forward they're stuck with him.

[dieterbrock]

All these compliments about Foles are nice. Toughness, get back on the horse, etc. We said some complimentary things about Bradford. How he got together on his own with his receivers. How hard he works, etc. Where did that get us? Everyone works hard at this level. Everyone's tough. But not everyone wins. Simple as that.

I'm not sold on Foles right now. I see similar outcomes with Foles as we did with Bradford. Some nice games, some stinkers, not enough wins. Its early, so I'll give Foles a pass for now. But I'm beginning to wonder. Two of those INT's were because he was hit. The other two he just made bad throws/decisions. I wish they didn't extend him. If he ain't the guy moving forward they're stuck with him.

We gave Bradford 3 years, certainly we can give this guy a half a season. But I agree, no excuses, he was terrible.
On the contract though, its brilliant on the Rams part. Its extremely team friendly and they are only on the hook for next year, at a cap hit of 8 mill. So its pretty friendly even if it has to be back up money. 2017 is voidable

[snackdaddy]

All these compliments about Foles are nice. Toughness, get back on the horse, etc. We said some complimentary things about Bradford. How he got together on his own with his receivers. How hard he works, etc. Where did that get us? Everyone works hard at this level. Everyone's tough. But not everyone wins. Simple as that.

I'm not sold on Foles right now. I see similar outcomes with Foles as we did with Bradford. Some nice games, some stinkers, not enough wins. Its early, so I'll give Foles a pass for now. But I'm beginning to wonder. Two of those INT's were because he was hit. The other two he just made bad throws/decisions. I wish they didn't extend him. If he ain't the guy moving forward they're stuck with him.

We gave Bradford 3 years, certainly we can give this guy a half a season. But I agree, no excuses, he was terrible.
On the contract though, its brilliant on the Rams part. Its extremely team friendly and they are only on the hook for next year, at a cap hit of 8 mill. So its pretty friendly even if it has to be back up money. 2017 is voidable

Well, if thats the case then the worst that can happen is overpaying one season for the backup if he is the backup. Problem is, good QB's are hard to find. Even if he doesn't pan out finding an upgrade won't be easy. What we need is a QB who can make just enough plays, avoid the rush and take care of the ball. Last game Foles didn't do any of that. But he did take care of the ball before that game. Seems like the losses he just didn't make plays. In the wins he did.

Its up to the coaches to find that happy medium. Don't be so conservative that you can't get first downs. But don't be so aggressive that you turn the ball over. And hand the ball off to Gurley as much as possible. What we need is another Dieter Brock. No pun intended.

[moklerman]

The problem is, look at what Fisher's done over the years. Does that instill any confidence when it comes to QB's? He is at the point now where he is specifically inserting Kerry Collins or Kerry Collins types(Foles). If he goes out and finds the next Steve McNair, then fine. But this guy is not about offense and even if he was, couldn't fix it IMO.

[max]

All these compliments about Foles are nice. Toughness, get back on the horse, etc. We said some complimentary things about Bradford. How he got together on his own with his receivers. How hard he works, etc. Where did that get us? Everyone works hard at this level. Everyone's tough. But not everyone wins. Simple as that.

I'm not sold on Foles right now. I see similar outcomes with Foles as we did with Bradford. Some nice games, some stinkers, not enough wins. Its early, so I'll give Foles a pass for now. But I'm beginning to wonder. Two of those INT's were because he was hit. The other two he just made bad throws/decisions. I wish they didn't extend him. If he ain't the guy moving forward they're stuck with him.

We gave Bradford 3 years, certainly we can give this guy a half a season. But I agree, no excuses, he was terrible.
On the contract though, its brilliant on the Rams part. Its extremely team friendly and they are only on the hook for next year, at a cap hit of 8 mill. So its pretty friendly even if it has to be back up money. 2017 is voidable

Well said.

The next 5 games will tell us a lot about Foles. Plus I think the next 6 of 9 games are home. Foles needs to play well at home in winnable games. The Packers game was anything but.

I expect the OL to play better as the season progresses, even with the loss of Saffold, who wasn't playing well anyway. With Gurley and Tavon providing serious threats, Foles doesn't have to carry the offense, just play consistently and make a few clutch throws per game. That's all I expect Fisher wants from him.

If Foles can't do that, we will need a new QB, I think the odds are he can. We'll find out before they announce the move to LA.