[BobCarl]

Grappa is a digestive spirit ... nothing more.

He is the pepto-bismol of their season and has made 9er fans feel good about their effed up season ... their season is still effed up... no going back for them.

Let them feel good while we laugh at them.

[moklerman]

still blows my mind that the niners headed into the season with hoyer as their guy, they actually signed him to be their 2017 starter, what a slap in the face to season ticket holders...

garoppolo? in his first 3 starts the niners scored just 3 offensive tds and a whopping 15 field goals, while their defense held the bad guys to just 15.3 offensive points per game, not exactly canton stuff in terms of offensive performance, but you have to give jg and their offense credit for that jags game, they looked good.

I think you have to look past the numbers and consider the personnel that JG's had to work with and little time he's had to acclimate.

Considering how little he's actually played in the NFL, his production as SF's starter has been pretty remarkable. Compare what he's done to how Palmer looked when he tried to start midstream for the Raiders.

Usually, if a QB comes in any time after the season starts if he can just keep his head above water it's pretty good. JG has transformed a bad team into a good team. IMO, this is a real coup for Lynch and Shanahan.

Next year when they get some actual weapons for him...I think the 49ers are going to be on the fast track to respectability.

[aeneas1]

I think you have to look past the numbers and consider the personnel that JG's had to work with and little time he's had to acclimate.

Considering how little he's actually played in the NFL, his production as SF's starter has been pretty remarkable. Compare what he's done to how Palmer looked when he tried to start midstream for the Raiders.

Usually, if a QB comes in any time after the season starts if he can just keep his head above water it's pretty good. JG has transformed a bad team into a good team. IMO, this is a real coup for Lynch and Shanahan.

Next year when they get some actual weapons for him...I think the 49ers are going to be on the fast track to respectability.

i hear ya, but the sample size for qbs being traded mid season and then starting games with their new team upon arrival is pretty darn lean, so i'm not all in on the remarkability of jg's success, nor am i one who believes that it takes forever to pick up a system - instead what i think we're seeing in san franciso is the difference between a good and bad qb, and the impact qb play can have on a team... hell, outside of the rams defensive meltdown / shat show in sfo earlier this year, the niners averaged less than 15 offensive points per game in hoyer's starts, no one believed they were that bad, not with shanny and some of the guys they had on their offensive roster.

the niners are clearly a better team with a better qb under center, the question is just how good is jg? how will he fare over the course of a 16-game season, as the niners try to improve his supporting cast? gonna be interesting.

[dieterbrock]

I think you have to look past the numbers and consider the personnel that JG's had to work with and little time he's had to acclimate.

Considering how little he's actually played in the NFL, his production as SF's starter has been pretty remarkable. Compare what he's done to how Palmer looked when he tried to start midstream for the Raiders.

Usually, if a QB comes in any time after the season starts if he can just keep his head above water it's pretty good. JG has transformed a bad team into a good team. IMO, this is a real coup for Lynch and Shanahan.

Next year when they get some actual weapons for him...I think the 49ers are going to be on the fast track to respectability.

Not really comparable to Palmer though.
Palmer hadn’t reported to camp, was retired and nowhere near a football field and then only was with the raiders for a week or so before playing. Garopolo has been practicing all along and had 3 weeks to acclimate himself.
Kudos to him though. Trades are so rare it’s hard to find another one to compare to. Certainly faring better than Brissett who had no time to acclimate and more impact than Bradford last year heading to Minnesota

[Hacksaw]

C'mon. Garoppolo is a good player but he isn't the next Montana except by comparison to the crap they've been running with over the past few seasons.

With the new of brass and coaches you'd expect some changes,, possibly for the better. Shanahan should have had better results right? Garoppolo definitely gives them a better shot but he isn't all that.

The Patriots knew that payday was coming and avoided it by taking the risk nothing happens to Brady and expecting a low round draft spot because the Miners were sucking so bad.

SF has a ton of money but won't after signing him to his big first FA contract. That's a good thing.
I hope they tag him. He could be a one and done.

But yeah, it was better to see them struggling. Their fans bravado and our rivalry has my blood up again which is both competitive fun, and all out war..

GO RAMS
HORNS UP.

[Hacksaw]

The 9ers will still have a ton of money... even after signing him.
They have about 115 million next year because they carry over 64 or so from this season.
It's a shit-ton of money.

Wishful thinking on my part.

They're behind us but have that dough to catch up. That's why we need to keep our studs to stay ahead of them. But damn, that's a big wallet.

[Hacksaw]

Their dough will tighten up,, just hate them tightening up the division standings.

The Rams need to improve upon 2017 and not look back.

[maxxx power]

I am still in wait and see mode on him.

Why would the "genius" trade such a great QB for only a 2 when his current starter is 40?

Let's see what happens next season before we start tearing down the Montana and Young statues for his. Remember the Niner's fans going apeshit over Kaeperdouche?

Also, I agree with Aeneas. I too live in NorCal and you'd think that Montana himself was returned listening to all these fair-weathered front-running Niners fans. I am seeing more Niners gear in the last 2 weeks than the last 4 years.

[Elmgrovegnome]

I wanted Snead to draft Garapolo. He has a quick mind and an even quicker release. The Patriots should have kept him and said bye to Shady. At Brady's age things could turn the wrong way quickly. And even if he plays five years, they could have gotten 10+ out of Jimmy G. Good QBs are hard to find. Although it won't hurt my feelings if they can never find a good QB as long as the NFL exists.

That being said, at least we can say that part of his success may be lack of tape. I hope that is the case. But, he will get more comfortable with the Shanahan offense and should only get better next year. Same can be said for Goff, fortunately.

I believe the hype and that the Niners suddenly became the Rams toughest competition for the next decade.

[/zn/]

Why would the "genius" trade such a great QB for only a 2 when his current starter is 40?

Well for one thing there wouldn't be enough to indicate he was going to be this good. Shanahan on the other hand is THAT good of an offensive coach, and could put the guy in a good position to play well.

For another, Garagepolo is a FA at the end of the season which means you get nothing for him if you don't trade him now.

For another, Bellichick teams are kind of notorious for making short-sighted trades and other moves like this. Think of all the defensivee players they unloaded, only to end up with this year's 29th ranked defense. Of their high-picked (rounds 1-3) defensive players drafted from 2012-14, they've unloaded or didn't re-sign Chandler Jones, Jamie Collins, Tavon Wilson, and Dominique Easley, and their replacements didn't come through.

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