[moklerman]

Does picking a quarterback even matter? Since when has Snisher developed a good quarterback? How many people have faith that they can draft then develop a quarterback into a good NFL starter?

Not me.

But they could draft a good QB, have another bad season which finally gets Fisher fired, and then hire a head coach who actually has an idea about building a good offense in the NFL.

This. Get em if you can. If somehow we could get Treadwell and Lynch, I'd be happy. We'd have to give up a couple seconds most likely.

Rookie QB and rookie WR? Is 2016 a throwaway season in that scenario?

[moklerman]

I thought the article was going to show a scenario where Wentz/Goff go #2 and #7 and the Rams are waiting for their guy. Then the unexpected plot twist at #8 when Bradford gets traded right before their eyes, and the Eagles take Lynch at 8...

My gut keeps telling me that Bradford gets traded. For some reason I think it's Denver who is biding their time and will make a deal during the draft. Bradford seems like an actual fit for what they do more than Kaepernick.

But, if Philly drafts a QB and the top 3 QB's are gone, would the Rams consider making a trade for Bradford with his current contract? It's relatively short and affordable. This is working under the assumption that the Rams would have kept him if he had restructured a couple of years ago. Now that his deal is more reasonable and it's on an incentive, prove-it type structure, it may not be so outlandish to consider getting him back. If he stays healthy, great for everyone. If he gets hurt, then the Rams can get out from under his deal pretty easily and perhaps have more options at that time.

[ramsman34]

I don't know about Philly, but after Lynch's pro-day today, me thinks that all three; Goff, WentZ, AND lynch will be gone before #15 if the RAMS stay there. If they want any one of those 3 QBS, they will probably have to move up. I hope they have interviewed Coner Cook extensively as his physiva cal tool sseem that on an NFL ready QB and he had a significant amount of success in big games in college as well as having pro-style experience. It is his personality (allegedly) that is keeping him from the top QB conversation as much as or more so than holes in his game. If we stay at 15 we might just have to go BPA or trade down if possible if the big 3 are gone. Then grab a QB with one of our 2nd with Cook being the highest rated, most likely.

[dieterbrock]

I thought the article was going to show a scenario where Wentz/Goff go #2 and #7 and the Rams are waiting for their guy. Then the unexpected plot twist at #8 when Bradford gets traded right before their eyes, and the Eagles take Lynch at 8...

My gut keeps telling me that Bradford gets traded. For some reason I think it's Denver who is biding their time and will make a deal during the draft. Bradford seems like an actual fit for what they do more than Kaepernick.

But, if Philly drafts a QB and the top 3 QB's are gone, would the Rams consider making a trade for Bradford with his current contract? It's relatively short and affordable. This is working under the assumption that the Rams would have kept him if he had restructured a couple of years ago. Now that his deal is more reasonable and it's on an incentive, prove-it type structure, it may not be so outlandish to consider getting him back. If he stays healthy, great for everyone. If he gets hurt, then the Rams can get out from under his deal pretty easily and perhaps have more options at that time.

I think he is a good fit for Denver as well, however if Denver doesn't want to pay Kaep 12 mill, I cant imagine they will want Sam's contract.
As for the Rams idea, I'll just go with heck no

[moklerman]

I thought the article was going to show a scenario where Wentz/Goff go #2 and #7 and the Rams are waiting for their guy. Then the unexpected plot twist at #8 when Bradford gets traded right before their eyes, and the Eagles take Lynch at 8...

My gut keeps telling me that Bradford gets traded. For some reason I think it's Denver who is biding their time and will make a deal during the draft. Bradford seems like an actual fit for what they do more than Kaepernick.

But, if Philly drafts a QB and the top 3 QB's are gone, would the Rams consider making a trade for Bradford with his current contract? It's relatively short and affordable. This is working under the assumption that the Rams would have kept him if he had restructured a couple of years ago. Now that his deal is more reasonable and it's on an incentive, prove-it type structure, it may not be so outlandish to consider getting him back. If he stays healthy, great for everyone. If he gets hurt, then the Rams can get out from under his deal pretty easily and perhaps have more options at that time.

I think he is a good fit for Denver as well, however if Denver doesn't want to pay Kaep 12 mill, I cant imagine they will want Sam's contract.
As for the Rams idea, I'll just go with heck no

I don't know, Kaep's got a lot to prove as a QB and as we agree, doesn't really fit what they do on offense. Bradford has less to prove, even though he has a fair share critics. I think he's shown that he can read a defense, go through progressions, protect the ball and do what the offense calls for. All of which would make him desirable to Denver over a reclamation project like Kaepernick or RGIII.

So, while Denver may not want to pay CK whatever his contract currently calls for, I don't necessarily agree that they wouldn't pay for Bradford if they made a trade. Denver is showing that they aren't going to overpay for a QB but I don't know if they think $18M would be overpaying for Bradford.

[dieterbrock]

My gut keeps telling me that Bradford gets traded. For some reason I think it's Denver who is biding their time and will make a deal during the draft. Bradford seems like an actual fit for what they do more than Kaepernick.

But, if Philly drafts a QB and the top 3 QB's are gone, would the Rams consider making a trade for Bradford with his current contract? It's relatively short and affordable. This is working under the assumption that the Rams would have kept him if he had restructured a couple of years ago. Now that his deal is more reasonable and it's on an incentive, prove-it type structure, it may not be so outlandish to consider getting him back. If he stays healthy, great for everyone. If he gets hurt, then the Rams can get out from under his deal pretty easily and perhaps have more options at that time.

I think he is a good fit for Denver as well, however if Denver doesn't want to pay Kaep 12 mill, I cant imagine they will want Sam's contract.
As for the Rams idea, I'll just go with heck no

I don't know, Kaep's got a lot to prove as a QB and as we agree, doesn't really fit what they do on offense. Bradford has less to prove, even though he has a fair share critics. I think he's shown that he can read a defense, go through progressions, protect the ball and do what the offense calls for. All of which would make him desirable to Denver over a reclamation project like Kaepernick or RGIII.

So, while Denver may not want to pay CK whatever his contract currently calls for, I don't necessarily agree that they wouldn't pay for Bradford if they made a trade. Denver is showing that they aren't going to overpay for a QB but I don't know if they think $18M would be overpaying for Bradford.

I think most people think Bradford is ridiculously overpaid at 18mill, can't see Denver feeling any different

[moklerman]

I think he is a good fit for Denver as well, however if Denver doesn't want to pay Kaep 12 mill, I cant imagine they will want Sam's contract.
As for the Rams idea, I'll just go with heck no

I don't know, Kaep's got a lot to prove as a QB and as we agree, doesn't really fit what they do on offense. Bradford has less to prove, even though he has a fair share critics. I think he's shown that he can read a defense, go through progressions, protect the ball and do what the offense calls for. All of which would make him desirable to Denver over a reclamation project like Kaepernick or RGIII.

So, while Denver may not want to pay CK whatever his contract currently calls for, I don't necessarily agree that they wouldn't pay for Bradford if they made a trade. Denver is showing that they aren't going to overpay for a QB but I don't know if they think $18M would be overpaying for Bradford.

I think most people think Bradford is ridiculously overpaid at 18mill, can't see Denver feeling any different

I know $23M was guaranteed and he could reach $36M with incentives. But if he reaches those incentives, $18M isn't ridiculous for a starting QB at all.

[Elvis]

Denver wouldn't pay Osweiler $37 mil guaranteed for the first two years...

[moklerman]

Denver wouldn't pay Osweiler $37 mil guaranteed for the first two years...

I wouldn't either for a guy who's only started 7 games and who was fading. The Broncos welcomed back a very depleted Manning and stuck with him in favor of Osweiler so I don't think they are very high on him much less willing to pay a premium for him.

$23M guaranteed for 2 years plus incentives is a pretty tolerable contract for a starter especially considering the relatively easy out for the team if they need it. If Denver wanted Bradford I don't think price would stall the deal.

[OldSchool]

Denver has under $3 million in cap space they can't afford Sams contract without drastic cuts.