by ramsman34 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 8947 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Goff Gets Paid POST #11 Haden wrote:If Stafford wanted more $$$ before, he will really want it now!Yep, but the Rams were gonna pay regardless. Now it’s about length of extension and how long he actually wants to play. I see a 3 year extension but him only playing 3 of the 6 years starting this season. by Dare 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 197 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Rookie Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #12 I'm happy for Jared. He earned the $$. It's like I've been saying, sometimes it isn't the player, but how he's played. He was a poor fit for McVay's offense back then. However, he would be a very good fit with the current version of McVay's ball control scheme. Campbell played to Goff's strength and that is the difference. People said Jared couldn't read defenses, but he did at Cal and now in Detroit. The bottom line is Goff wasn't McVay's QB. He was the QB Sean inherited. It's also why IMO the next Ram QB1 could be another retread. As long as Stafford can stay healthy he's got a job in LA. That said, he's been injured every year since he arrived which is why I've been saying betting on Stafford is a bad bet in the long run. He would need another 2023 type of season to be here in 2025. He's technically under contract through 2026, but 2024 in reality is the final year of his extension as the last two years were option years to spread the cap hit. It's why Stafford no longer has a guaranteed salary after 2024 and its why he's been saying he wants guaranteed money to play in 2025. If he has another 2022 type season this will be his last season. It's why Jimmy G. is here. He gives them an option for 2025. Jimmy is a scheme fit for McVay's current offense. Jimmy's problem is he will hold the ball too long or make a bad read. At most I see Jimmy at most as a bridge type option. I don't see Bennett as a starting option. I think he might make the PS this year but that might be it. The other aspect is if the Rams win another Lombardi this year, the temptation to retire on top would be huge for Stafford. Two rings would cement his HOF credentials. There is no question that the Rams are looking at their options at QB1 beyond this year and their decision on Stafford will wait until January, which is the right way to approach it. by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #13 RFU Season Ticket Holder by actionjack 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 4227 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Superstar Goff Gets Paid POST #14 Elvis wrote:One thing I know watching both of their careers. I want Stafford at the switch when we need to score late in the game. See 2022 playoffs games Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #15 I was surprised their sack numbers were the same. We know Stafford is much better under pressure, probably better at processing information too but that's harder to say... RFU Season Ticket Holder by rams74 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 1517 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Goff Gets Paid POST #16 Elvis liked this post Elvis wrote:I was surprised their sack numbers were the same. We know Stafford is much better under pressure, probably better at processing information too but that's harder to say...Yes, but Goff has had a better offensive line most of that time. Which is why we just poached his left guard.I don't know how you compare and filter sack numbers based on stuff like that. 1 by ramsman34 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 8947 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #17 actionjack liked this post I’m with Action. Shit going south around him and Stafford makes more plays, more often. Or that’s how it seems. I hope they rework his contract an he commits for 3 more seasons including this one. 1 by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #18 Looking like they go head to head week 1 SNF in Detroit. We’ll know soon… RFU Season Ticket Holder by /zn/ 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 6829 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Goff Gets Paid POST #19 actionjack liked this post rams74 wrote:Yes, but Goff has had a better offensive line most of that time. Which is why we just poached his left guard.I don't know how you compare and filter sack numbers based on stuff like that.We knew at the trade that Stafford was a better qb than Goff, which doesn't make Goff a bad qb. In fact he's a top 10 qb. Neither one of the 2 plays particularly well behind bad OLs. I had 2 distinct positions at the time of the trade. 1. Some very good articles in the past have shown that Goff & McV had a "bad marriage." One quoted a former Rams coach who said that McV knew how to tear JG down but not how to build him back up. In 2019 McV became the de facto qb coach and by 2020 Goff had confidence issues. Doing it completely differently, the Lions made a point of building JG's confidence while building the offense around his strengths. Which worked.2. But having said that the minute the trade happened I defended it. If the coach and the qb have a bad marriage, one's gotta go...and it wasn't going to be McVay. Plus Stafford always was a great qb IMO, though he was marooned on a bad Detroit team. Him coming to LA worked for both Stafford and McVay. McVay was too impatient with a young Goff but would never be impatient that way with a veteran Stafford...in fact if anything McVay would listen to Stafford. And that's what happened. Stafford talks about their "collaboration." It works to the advantage of both. Meanwhile the difference between Goff in 2020 and in 2023 is playing with confidence. 1 by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #20 RFU Season Ticket Holder Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 31 posts Sep 07 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Dare 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 197 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Rookie Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #12 I'm happy for Jared. He earned the $$. It's like I've been saying, sometimes it isn't the player, but how he's played. He was a poor fit for McVay's offense back then. However, he would be a very good fit with the current version of McVay's ball control scheme. Campbell played to Goff's strength and that is the difference. People said Jared couldn't read defenses, but he did at Cal and now in Detroit. The bottom line is Goff wasn't McVay's QB. He was the QB Sean inherited. It's also why IMO the next Ram QB1 could be another retread. As long as Stafford can stay healthy he's got a job in LA. That said, he's been injured every year since he arrived which is why I've been saying betting on Stafford is a bad bet in the long run. He would need another 2023 type of season to be here in 2025. He's technically under contract through 2026, but 2024 in reality is the final year of his extension as the last two years were option years to spread the cap hit. It's why Stafford no longer has a guaranteed salary after 2024 and its why he's been saying he wants guaranteed money to play in 2025. If he has another 2022 type season this will be his last season. It's why Jimmy G. is here. He gives them an option for 2025. Jimmy is a scheme fit for McVay's current offense. Jimmy's problem is he will hold the ball too long or make a bad read. At most I see Jimmy at most as a bridge type option. I don't see Bennett as a starting option. I think he might make the PS this year but that might be it. The other aspect is if the Rams win another Lombardi this year, the temptation to retire on top would be huge for Stafford. Two rings would cement his HOF credentials. There is no question that the Rams are looking at their options at QB1 beyond this year and their decision on Stafford will wait until January, which is the right way to approach it. by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #13 RFU Season Ticket Holder by actionjack 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 4227 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Superstar Goff Gets Paid POST #14 Elvis wrote:One thing I know watching both of their careers. I want Stafford at the switch when we need to score late in the game. See 2022 playoffs games Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #15 I was surprised their sack numbers were the same. We know Stafford is much better under pressure, probably better at processing information too but that's harder to say... RFU Season Ticket Holder by rams74 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 1517 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Goff Gets Paid POST #16 Elvis liked this post Elvis wrote:I was surprised their sack numbers were the same. We know Stafford is much better under pressure, probably better at processing information too but that's harder to say...Yes, but Goff has had a better offensive line most of that time. Which is why we just poached his left guard.I don't know how you compare and filter sack numbers based on stuff like that. 1 by ramsman34 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 8947 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #17 actionjack liked this post I’m with Action. Shit going south around him and Stafford makes more plays, more often. Or that’s how it seems. I hope they rework his contract an he commits for 3 more seasons including this one. 1 by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #18 Looking like they go head to head week 1 SNF in Detroit. We’ll know soon… RFU Season Ticket Holder by /zn/ 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 6829 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Goff Gets Paid POST #19 actionjack liked this post rams74 wrote:Yes, but Goff has had a better offensive line most of that time. Which is why we just poached his left guard.I don't know how you compare and filter sack numbers based on stuff like that.We knew at the trade that Stafford was a better qb than Goff, which doesn't make Goff a bad qb. In fact he's a top 10 qb. Neither one of the 2 plays particularly well behind bad OLs. I had 2 distinct positions at the time of the trade. 1. Some very good articles in the past have shown that Goff & McV had a "bad marriage." One quoted a former Rams coach who said that McV knew how to tear JG down but not how to build him back up. In 2019 McV became the de facto qb coach and by 2020 Goff had confidence issues. Doing it completely differently, the Lions made a point of building JG's confidence while building the offense around his strengths. Which worked.2. But having said that the minute the trade happened I defended it. If the coach and the qb have a bad marriage, one's gotta go...and it wasn't going to be McVay. Plus Stafford always was a great qb IMO, though he was marooned on a bad Detroit team. Him coming to LA worked for both Stafford and McVay. McVay was too impatient with a young Goff but would never be impatient that way with a veteran Stafford...in fact if anything McVay would listen to Stafford. And that's what happened. Stafford talks about their "collaboration." It works to the advantage of both. Meanwhile the difference between Goff in 2020 and in 2023 is playing with confidence. 1 by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #20 RFU Season Ticket Holder Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 31 posts Sep 07 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #13 RFU Season Ticket Holder by actionjack 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 4227 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Superstar Goff Gets Paid POST #14 Elvis wrote:One thing I know watching both of their careers. I want Stafford at the switch when we need to score late in the game. See 2022 playoffs games Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #15 I was surprised their sack numbers were the same. We know Stafford is much better under pressure, probably better at processing information too but that's harder to say... RFU Season Ticket Holder by rams74 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 1517 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Goff Gets Paid POST #16 Elvis liked this post Elvis wrote:I was surprised their sack numbers were the same. We know Stafford is much better under pressure, probably better at processing information too but that's harder to say...Yes, but Goff has had a better offensive line most of that time. Which is why we just poached his left guard.I don't know how you compare and filter sack numbers based on stuff like that. 1 by ramsman34 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 8947 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #17 actionjack liked this post I’m with Action. Shit going south around him and Stafford makes more plays, more often. Or that’s how it seems. I hope they rework his contract an he commits for 3 more seasons including this one. 1 by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #18 Looking like they go head to head week 1 SNF in Detroit. We’ll know soon… RFU Season Ticket Holder by /zn/ 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 6829 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Goff Gets Paid POST #19 actionjack liked this post rams74 wrote:Yes, but Goff has had a better offensive line most of that time. Which is why we just poached his left guard.I don't know how you compare and filter sack numbers based on stuff like that.We knew at the trade that Stafford was a better qb than Goff, which doesn't make Goff a bad qb. In fact he's a top 10 qb. Neither one of the 2 plays particularly well behind bad OLs. I had 2 distinct positions at the time of the trade. 1. Some very good articles in the past have shown that Goff & McV had a "bad marriage." One quoted a former Rams coach who said that McV knew how to tear JG down but not how to build him back up. In 2019 McV became the de facto qb coach and by 2020 Goff had confidence issues. Doing it completely differently, the Lions made a point of building JG's confidence while building the offense around his strengths. Which worked.2. But having said that the minute the trade happened I defended it. If the coach and the qb have a bad marriage, one's gotta go...and it wasn't going to be McVay. Plus Stafford always was a great qb IMO, though he was marooned on a bad Detroit team. Him coming to LA worked for both Stafford and McVay. McVay was too impatient with a young Goff but would never be impatient that way with a veteran Stafford...in fact if anything McVay would listen to Stafford. And that's what happened. Stafford talks about their "collaboration." It works to the advantage of both. Meanwhile the difference between Goff in 2020 and in 2023 is playing with confidence. 1 by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #20 RFU Season Ticket Holder Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 31 posts Sep 07 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by actionjack 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 4227 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Superstar Goff Gets Paid POST #14 Elvis wrote:One thing I know watching both of their careers. I want Stafford at the switch when we need to score late in the game. See 2022 playoffs games Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #15 I was surprised their sack numbers were the same. We know Stafford is much better under pressure, probably better at processing information too but that's harder to say... RFU Season Ticket Holder by rams74 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 1517 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Goff Gets Paid POST #16 Elvis liked this post Elvis wrote:I was surprised their sack numbers were the same. We know Stafford is much better under pressure, probably better at processing information too but that's harder to say...Yes, but Goff has had a better offensive line most of that time. Which is why we just poached his left guard.I don't know how you compare and filter sack numbers based on stuff like that. 1 by ramsman34 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 8947 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #17 actionjack liked this post I’m with Action. Shit going south around him and Stafford makes more plays, more often. Or that’s how it seems. I hope they rework his contract an he commits for 3 more seasons including this one. 1 by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #18 Looking like they go head to head week 1 SNF in Detroit. We’ll know soon… RFU Season Ticket Holder by /zn/ 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 6829 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Goff Gets Paid POST #19 actionjack liked this post rams74 wrote:Yes, but Goff has had a better offensive line most of that time. Which is why we just poached his left guard.I don't know how you compare and filter sack numbers based on stuff like that.We knew at the trade that Stafford was a better qb than Goff, which doesn't make Goff a bad qb. In fact he's a top 10 qb. Neither one of the 2 plays particularly well behind bad OLs. I had 2 distinct positions at the time of the trade. 1. Some very good articles in the past have shown that Goff & McV had a "bad marriage." One quoted a former Rams coach who said that McV knew how to tear JG down but not how to build him back up. In 2019 McV became the de facto qb coach and by 2020 Goff had confidence issues. Doing it completely differently, the Lions made a point of building JG's confidence while building the offense around his strengths. Which worked.2. But having said that the minute the trade happened I defended it. If the coach and the qb have a bad marriage, one's gotta go...and it wasn't going to be McVay. Plus Stafford always was a great qb IMO, though he was marooned on a bad Detroit team. Him coming to LA worked for both Stafford and McVay. McVay was too impatient with a young Goff but would never be impatient that way with a veteran Stafford...in fact if anything McVay would listen to Stafford. And that's what happened. Stafford talks about their "collaboration." It works to the advantage of both. Meanwhile the difference between Goff in 2020 and in 2023 is playing with confidence. 1 by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #20 RFU Season Ticket Holder Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 31 posts Sep 07 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #15 I was surprised their sack numbers were the same. We know Stafford is much better under pressure, probably better at processing information too but that's harder to say... RFU Season Ticket Holder by rams74 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 1517 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Goff Gets Paid POST #16 Elvis liked this post Elvis wrote:I was surprised their sack numbers were the same. We know Stafford is much better under pressure, probably better at processing information too but that's harder to say...Yes, but Goff has had a better offensive line most of that time. Which is why we just poached his left guard.I don't know how you compare and filter sack numbers based on stuff like that. 1 by ramsman34 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 8947 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #17 actionjack liked this post I’m with Action. Shit going south around him and Stafford makes more plays, more often. Or that’s how it seems. I hope they rework his contract an he commits for 3 more seasons including this one. 1 by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #18 Looking like they go head to head week 1 SNF in Detroit. We’ll know soon… RFU Season Ticket Holder by /zn/ 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 6829 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Goff Gets Paid POST #19 actionjack liked this post rams74 wrote:Yes, but Goff has had a better offensive line most of that time. Which is why we just poached his left guard.I don't know how you compare and filter sack numbers based on stuff like that.We knew at the trade that Stafford was a better qb than Goff, which doesn't make Goff a bad qb. In fact he's a top 10 qb. Neither one of the 2 plays particularly well behind bad OLs. I had 2 distinct positions at the time of the trade. 1. Some very good articles in the past have shown that Goff & McV had a "bad marriage." One quoted a former Rams coach who said that McV knew how to tear JG down but not how to build him back up. In 2019 McV became the de facto qb coach and by 2020 Goff had confidence issues. Doing it completely differently, the Lions made a point of building JG's confidence while building the offense around his strengths. Which worked.2. But having said that the minute the trade happened I defended it. If the coach and the qb have a bad marriage, one's gotta go...and it wasn't going to be McVay. Plus Stafford always was a great qb IMO, though he was marooned on a bad Detroit team. Him coming to LA worked for both Stafford and McVay. McVay was too impatient with a young Goff but would never be impatient that way with a veteran Stafford...in fact if anything McVay would listen to Stafford. And that's what happened. Stafford talks about their "collaboration." It works to the advantage of both. Meanwhile the difference between Goff in 2020 and in 2023 is playing with confidence. 1 by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #20 RFU Season Ticket Holder Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 31 posts Sep 07 2024
by rams74 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 1517 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl Goff Gets Paid POST #16 Elvis liked this post Elvis wrote:I was surprised their sack numbers were the same. We know Stafford is much better under pressure, probably better at processing information too but that's harder to say...Yes, but Goff has had a better offensive line most of that time. Which is why we just poached his left guard.I don't know how you compare and filter sack numbers based on stuff like that. 1 by ramsman34 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 8947 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #17 actionjack liked this post I’m with Action. Shit going south around him and Stafford makes more plays, more often. Or that’s how it seems. I hope they rework his contract an he commits for 3 more seasons including this one. 1 by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #18 Looking like they go head to head week 1 SNF in Detroit. We’ll know soon… RFU Season Ticket Holder by /zn/ 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 6829 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Goff Gets Paid POST #19 actionjack liked this post rams74 wrote:Yes, but Goff has had a better offensive line most of that time. Which is why we just poached his left guard.I don't know how you compare and filter sack numbers based on stuff like that.We knew at the trade that Stafford was a better qb than Goff, which doesn't make Goff a bad qb. In fact he's a top 10 qb. Neither one of the 2 plays particularly well behind bad OLs. I had 2 distinct positions at the time of the trade. 1. Some very good articles in the past have shown that Goff & McV had a "bad marriage." One quoted a former Rams coach who said that McV knew how to tear JG down but not how to build him back up. In 2019 McV became the de facto qb coach and by 2020 Goff had confidence issues. Doing it completely differently, the Lions made a point of building JG's confidence while building the offense around his strengths. Which worked.2. But having said that the minute the trade happened I defended it. If the coach and the qb have a bad marriage, one's gotta go...and it wasn't going to be McVay. Plus Stafford always was a great qb IMO, though he was marooned on a bad Detroit team. Him coming to LA worked for both Stafford and McVay. McVay was too impatient with a young Goff but would never be impatient that way with a veteran Stafford...in fact if anything McVay would listen to Stafford. And that's what happened. Stafford talks about their "collaboration." It works to the advantage of both. Meanwhile the difference between Goff in 2020 and in 2023 is playing with confidence. 1 by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #20 RFU Season Ticket Holder Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 31 posts Sep 07 2024
by ramsman34 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 8947 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #17 actionjack liked this post I’m with Action. Shit going south around him and Stafford makes more plays, more often. Or that’s how it seems. I hope they rework his contract an he commits for 3 more seasons including this one. 1 by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #18 Looking like they go head to head week 1 SNF in Detroit. We’ll know soon… RFU Season Ticket Holder by /zn/ 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 6829 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Goff Gets Paid POST #19 actionjack liked this post rams74 wrote:Yes, but Goff has had a better offensive line most of that time. Which is why we just poached his left guard.I don't know how you compare and filter sack numbers based on stuff like that.We knew at the trade that Stafford was a better qb than Goff, which doesn't make Goff a bad qb. In fact he's a top 10 qb. Neither one of the 2 plays particularly well behind bad OLs. I had 2 distinct positions at the time of the trade. 1. Some very good articles in the past have shown that Goff & McV had a "bad marriage." One quoted a former Rams coach who said that McV knew how to tear JG down but not how to build him back up. In 2019 McV became the de facto qb coach and by 2020 Goff had confidence issues. Doing it completely differently, the Lions made a point of building JG's confidence while building the offense around his strengths. Which worked.2. But having said that the minute the trade happened I defended it. If the coach and the qb have a bad marriage, one's gotta go...and it wasn't going to be McVay. Plus Stafford always was a great qb IMO, though he was marooned on a bad Detroit team. Him coming to LA worked for both Stafford and McVay. McVay was too impatient with a young Goff but would never be impatient that way with a veteran Stafford...in fact if anything McVay would listen to Stafford. And that's what happened. Stafford talks about their "collaboration." It works to the advantage of both. Meanwhile the difference between Goff in 2020 and in 2023 is playing with confidence. 1 by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #20 RFU Season Ticket Holder Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 31 posts Sep 07 2024
by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #18 Looking like they go head to head week 1 SNF in Detroit. We’ll know soon… RFU Season Ticket Holder by /zn/ 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 6829 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Goff Gets Paid POST #19 actionjack liked this post rams74 wrote:Yes, but Goff has had a better offensive line most of that time. Which is why we just poached his left guard.I don't know how you compare and filter sack numbers based on stuff like that.We knew at the trade that Stafford was a better qb than Goff, which doesn't make Goff a bad qb. In fact he's a top 10 qb. Neither one of the 2 plays particularly well behind bad OLs. I had 2 distinct positions at the time of the trade. 1. Some very good articles in the past have shown that Goff & McV had a "bad marriage." One quoted a former Rams coach who said that McV knew how to tear JG down but not how to build him back up. In 2019 McV became the de facto qb coach and by 2020 Goff had confidence issues. Doing it completely differently, the Lions made a point of building JG's confidence while building the offense around his strengths. Which worked.2. But having said that the minute the trade happened I defended it. If the coach and the qb have a bad marriage, one's gotta go...and it wasn't going to be McVay. Plus Stafford always was a great qb IMO, though he was marooned on a bad Detroit team. Him coming to LA worked for both Stafford and McVay. McVay was too impatient with a young Goff but would never be impatient that way with a veteran Stafford...in fact if anything McVay would listen to Stafford. And that's what happened. Stafford talks about their "collaboration." It works to the advantage of both. Meanwhile the difference between Goff in 2020 and in 2023 is playing with confidence. 1 by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #20 RFU Season Ticket Holder Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 31 posts Sep 07 2024
by /zn/ 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 6829 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Goff Gets Paid POST #19 actionjack liked this post rams74 wrote:Yes, but Goff has had a better offensive line most of that time. Which is why we just poached his left guard.I don't know how you compare and filter sack numbers based on stuff like that.We knew at the trade that Stafford was a better qb than Goff, which doesn't make Goff a bad qb. In fact he's a top 10 qb. Neither one of the 2 plays particularly well behind bad OLs. I had 2 distinct positions at the time of the trade. 1. Some very good articles in the past have shown that Goff & McV had a "bad marriage." One quoted a former Rams coach who said that McV knew how to tear JG down but not how to build him back up. In 2019 McV became the de facto qb coach and by 2020 Goff had confidence issues. Doing it completely differently, the Lions made a point of building JG's confidence while building the offense around his strengths. Which worked.2. But having said that the minute the trade happened I defended it. If the coach and the qb have a bad marriage, one's gotta go...and it wasn't going to be McVay. Plus Stafford always was a great qb IMO, though he was marooned on a bad Detroit team. Him coming to LA worked for both Stafford and McVay. McVay was too impatient with a young Goff but would never be impatient that way with a veteran Stafford...in fact if anything McVay would listen to Stafford. And that's what happened. Stafford talks about their "collaboration." It works to the advantage of both. Meanwhile the difference between Goff in 2020 and in 2023 is playing with confidence. 1 by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #20 RFU Season Ticket Holder Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 31 posts Sep 07 2024
by Elvis 3 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 39466 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Goff Gets Paid POST #20 RFU Season Ticket Holder Reply 2 / 4 1 2 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business