[PARAM]

Can’t argue any of it. Down the drain we go. Will probe win a few more and screw up any chance at getting a real difference maker in the first round.

Draft talk begins during the bye week is my guess. If not now.

If we only win a few more we'll be picking in the upper half of every round. I like our chances for difference makers there. But I don't want to talk draft just yet.

[actionjack]

It feels like we were lulled into thinking this team was better than it is. They just aren’t good enough to overcome mistakes. Not against good teams. Season isn’t over but they literally have 3 losses left before probable elimination. And too many good teams left on the schedule - Seattle, SF, Baltimore. And one could argue the Browns. They would need to go 5-4 starting next week at a minimum.

I just don’t see it. I see 2-3 wins left. AZ, NY, maybe GB maybe Washington.

So deflating today was, (Yoda).

You know I think you hit the nail on the head about overcoming mistakes. If we avoid making turnovers we can be in most games, but alas we make a mistake or two and we are cooked. We havent gotten a single back breaking turnover from our defense, no scores nothing.

If Stafford is out beyond the bye, it is really done. We should play the ALL the young guys and really protect Kupp, Donald and Puka. If I had to see Higs drop another pass I swear %*&%*&^%*&^*&.

If Stafford can come back post bye, maybe we can get something going. Hell the Cowboys looked terrible after getting owned by the niners and now the Cowboys look great and the niners lost 3 in row badly.

On to Green Bay they might be worse than us....

[Joe Pendleton]

.. umm i doubt it (at this point)

[ramsman34]

If we only win a few more we'll be picking in the upper half of every round. I like our chances for difference makers there. But I don't want to talk draft just yet.

It’s officially NOT time to talk draft yet. Lol
Got to get to 4-5, heal up, then beat Seattle. Back on track then. Haha.

[bremillard]

The thumb will be a problem whether or not he plays. It will be a bigger problem if he can't go at all. May be a blessing in disguise.

[Haden]

Our season was hurt badly when we did not win the very winnable games at Cinci and Pitt. Green Bay is bad this year but I don’t like our odds without Stafford. If we lose GB and Stafford for any length of time, put a fork in it.

[rams74]

On to Green Bay they might be worse than us....

Actually, I think the Packers remind me, a little bit, of the Rams this year. They've got some good players at the skill positions, they move up and down the field, but they have trouble scoring touchdowns. On defense, they look like they should be better than they are, but they end up giving up enough points to lose.

Sorta like the Rams.

Without Stafford, we'll probably lose this game. But then, what do I know about Rypien? Nothing, I just assume he's not very good.

[ramsww]

About what we have seen in the negative end. But have been surprised/hopeful on the competitive efforts.

Half the season left. If Staff is done for more than a game, so are the Rams. If not???

On another note, I have seen enough of D Kendrick. Rather see Tre and Shelly with more Lake at Star and Durant outside.

And it wasn’t your “take” that got you 30 in the hole. And you know that.

“Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah you insulted him a little bit. You got a little out of order yourself. Sorry”
I didn’t insult him..I didn’t insult
him.
“You insulted him a l’il bit”
I didn’t insult nobody, give us a drink.
“I heard some tings….”

[Will0120]

On another note, I have seen enough of D Kendrick. Rather see Tre and Shelly with more Lake at Star and Durant outside.

I am in no way defending D Kendrick cause he hasn't been great for sure. I was pulling for D. Shelley to get more playing time as well on the outside but he f'd up HARD on two blown assignments on Sunday and I am not sure the coaches will trust him.

Granted, those two blown assignments were from him in the nickel as far as I remember but yea, a service-able DB group all of a sudden look every bit of inexperienced players they are...

[/zn/]

It took until mid season to know for sure, but this is a write off year.

We have a below average offense , and a below average defense and special teams.

I should have known better but I let the early games encourage me. Now back to being emotionless and let the young guys play.

Rest Stafford through the bye. Bench Higs for the season, see what we have in Davis, Long etc . Play Lake more look at options at CB. See what Evans can do.

This is the hand we have been dealt. I’ll go on record saying this was a mistake to waste a year of Stafford/Kupp /Donald. They don’t have many quality years left together. Have to be in the SB next year or 25 to have made it worth it.

I disagree. They aren't really the team many thought they were when they beat Seattle but they also aren't really the team that got clobbered in Dallas. In terms of Dallas, you're not going to have many games where you have a pick 6 and then a blocked punt for a safety within a few minutes.

This may be just a vantage point thing, but I don't think of this as a write-off year, it's a development year.

If Stafford is healthy they can be competitive, and even have an outside shot at a wild card spot.

The problem is the team is so young, that they both have trouble recovering from mistakes and also make mistakes. But they don't make mistakes 24/7.

In Green Bay btw you have the league's youngest team (GB) going against the 2nd youngest team (Rams).