[RedAlice]

I blame the Rams.

He won his first SB against us. You think he wanted to go out being knocked out by the Rams?

His secret little desire is to now play for an AFC team and beat us in the SB. End it how it started.

these are his dreams. full circle.

next year: Brady beats the Rams in the SB. Has to be us.

do not discount the personal animosity that Brady has for the Rams.

[rams1974]

I don't see it .. what animosity would he have toward the Rams? Other than the usual sociopathic "everyone between me and my goal is the enemy" that he regards anyone with?

The Rams organization went stiff-upper-lip when it became clear the Patriots had cheated in the Super Bowl. Individuals like Warner and Faulk spoke up, but the team went along with the brushing everything under the rug.

He was planning on coming back in 2022 all along. It was going to be Miami but that all got de-railed.

The only thing I find amusing about his return is his complete willingness to allow himself to be "tampered" with in the Miami yacht meeting, the sheer dishonesty of the whole situation, and nobody calling him personally out on it. Technically tampering is a team issue, but you know, it seems like a bad look when a player so blatantly goes along with it. Like yep we are just going to accept the massive shadiness of it all... I guess they decided it was on-brand.

Having said all that - I do imagine that growing up as a 49er fan, he gets an extra special kick out of beating the Rams - I just don't see it being that big of a factor in the retirement question.

[PARAM]

I watched SB53 last night for the first time since the clock ran out. I was unimpressed with Brady in that game. He was pressured, threw wildly, missed receivers often. If it weren't for Edelman and their D, they don't win that game. I think he left NE because they were asking him to continue to dump the ball off and not take many chances.

In Tampa, the Biscuit Risker let him loose and his first year with them, they had a good OL and receiving corp. But the last two years, his numbers have dropped off significantly. I'm not talking about his 43 TD passes last year. I'm talking about his air yards per completion and the yac he got after the catch. What we saw in the Dallas game is what beats him. Pressure him and hit him.

He no longer tries to subtly sidestep the rush and throw. He throws it away. Because at 45, he can't afford to be hit much. He can be in the greatest shape of any 45 year old human in history but he's still 45. Those hits hurt more and last longer.

Las Vegas would be his ideal landing spot if he wants to keep playing. Because McDaniel will use him like he did in NE. Get rid of it fast, underneath and every once in a while, max protect and throw one deep to Adams. Of course that might not keep Adams happy.

As a hater I hope he plays until he embarrasses himself.

[rams1974]

I watched SB53 last night for the first time since the clock ran out. I was unimpressed with Brady in that game. He was pressured, threw wildly, missed receivers often. If it weren't for Edelman and their D, they don't win that game. I think he left NE because they were asking him to continue to dump the ball off and not take many chances.

That game was very winnable, but I also know my Rams and knew that despite being down only 3-0 at halftime, they were going to lose. I had never known them to find that next "championship gear" they were going to need to break out of the funk. Thankfully, the last drive of SB56 was championship gear.

[PARAM]

That game was very winnable, but I also know my Rams and knew that despite being down only 3-0 at halftime, they were going to lose. I had never known them to find that next "championship gear" they were going to need to break out of the funk. Thankfully, the last drive of SB56 was championship gear.

That game was 3-3 halfway through the 4th. If Cooks holds onto either of the two balls Goff hit him in the hands with, it's a different game. Both tough catches but.....if IF AND BUTS WERE CANDY AND NUTS EVERYDAY WOULD BE CHRISTMAS.

Our D played phenominally well.....and we got back and won it 3 years later. Maybe it's just last year's win allows us to look at 53 a bit differently.

[actionjack]

Brady is a machine. gotta look at his mindset.

He should have gone out last year, but we killed him. you think he is gonna hang it up now?


look at his face! it is like Frankenstein. he doesn't eat real food. He is on an obsessive journey to defy time.

maybe he finds his soul this off-season and does retire. that would be the best for him. but, I doubt it.

No I dont think he is going to hang it up. The league will have to tell him he is done. I think the best situation is him signing back with the Bucs. Raiders dont have enough weapons, SF wont be interested. The Jets maybe, but I dont think that situation is better than than Tampa.

[Hacksaw]

Brady probably doesn't want to go out as a loser but he did say he wanted to play until he was 45, , , which he is.

[PARAM]

.......he did say he wanted to play until he was 45, , , which he is.

Well many years ago, as a cocky 25 year old, I said I wanted to live to age 65. I figured that'd be plenty of time to enjoy my lifestyle. I have but I've also reassessed that wish. Agreed to an extension so to speak. But I've also changed my lifestyle. And that's the problem with Brady. He doesn't understand his performance has changed.....and he can't do what he once did.

[Elvis]

Sure seems like he doesn't wanna take any more hits and that's certainly a problem if you're gonna be an NFL player. OTOH i heard someone saying Brady really likes playing. Once it's over it's over, why rush to give it up?

[PARAM]

And in the "not to be outdone" department....

Last June, Aaron Rodgers said he "definitely" planned to finish his career with the Green Bay Packers. Less than eight months later, he didn't sound quite as sure.

First things first, Rodgers must decide whether he wants to play a 19th NFL season. He said Tuesday that he hasn't reached that decision yet, a little more than a week after the Packers ended their season with an 8-9 record.


But if his plans don't intersect with what the Packers want, then he can't say for certain that he would never play for another team. In an appearance on "The Pat McAfee Show" that lasted more than an hour, Rodgers said he still thinks he can play at a high level, whether it's for the Packers or another team.

"I think I can win MVP again in the right situation," Rodgers said. "Right situation, is that Green Bay or is that somewhere else? I'm not sure. But I don't think you should shut down any opportunity. Like I said during the season, that's got to be both sides actually wanting to work together moving forward, and I think there's more conversations to be had."

Publicly, Packers coach Matt LaFleur and general manager Brian Gutekunst have expressed an interest in having Rodgers back. Last week, Gutekunst reiterated that the three-year, $150 million contract they gave to Rodgers last March was a commitment that "wasn't certainly for this year."

Rodgers took several days last week to meet with Gutekunst, LaFleur and other Packers staff members before he left Green Bay and returned to California for the offseason. While Rodgers said he "had all the conversations I wanted to have," he did not indicate whether the Packers told him whether they planned to reload or rebuild.

"I think no player wants to be part of any type of rebuild; I said that years ago," Rodgers said. "Reloads are a lot of fun because you feel like you're close, you're only a couple guys away. This game is about relationships, it's about the players you play with and count on even if they don't maybe show up huge in the stat book."

Several of Rodgers' closest friends -- David Bakhtiari, Randall Cobb, Mason Crosby, Allen Lazard, Marcedes Lewis and Robert Tonyan -- have uncertain futures with the team, whether it's because they will be free agents or because they have contracts that might need to be renegotiated.

"There's a lot of interesting names that we'll see if there's desire to re-sign certain guys that are glue guys in the locker room, [and that] will be an interesting conversation to be had," Rodgers said. "Take all that away, I still need to mentally get to a point where I feel 100 percent locked in and ready to play a 19th season. And if I do, then we'll rock and roll and figure that out. If I don't, then we'll go into the jungles for a while."

"I still need to mentally get to a point where I feel 100% locked in and ready to play a 19th season. And if I do, then we'll rock and roll and figure that out. If I don't, then we'll go into the jungles for a while."

Rodgers, 39, is coming off one of his worst seasons. He had almost as many interceptions (12) as he did in the previous three seasons combined (13). After back-to-back MVP seasons, Rodgers threw for the fewest yards (3,695) in any season in which he played at least 15 games. He did not have a single 300-yard passing game. Since taking over as a starter, he had never before had a season with fewer than three 300-plus yard games. He also dealt with a broken thumb and injuries to his ribs and a knee during the season.

The Packers missed the playoffs for the first time since 2018. They lost 20-16 to the Detroit Lions in the regular-season finale when a win would've gotten Green Bay into the postseason. Had the Packers been eliminated before the finale, they might have considered shutting down Rodgers to give third-year backup Jordan Love an extended look.

"If they want to go younger and think Jordan's ready to go, then that might be the way they want to go," Rodgers said. "And if that's the case and I still want to play, then there's only one option, right? And that's to play somewhere else. If it's not and they are like, 'No, no, no, we still want you to play,' and this and that, then it'd have to be the right situation with the roster that looks like we can win it all because there's no point in coming back if you don't think you can win it all."

Rodgers gave no timeline for a decision on whether he will play in 2023. He said that he planned to make another appearance on McAfee's show next Tuesday but that he won't have any update on his status for the upcoming season then.

"They're not pressing for any type of specific answer, and I'm not mentally or emotionally at that point to give one," Rodgers said. "If I'm asked about it, I'll respond in honesty. But this is not going to be something where I'm going to respond to a bunch of inquiries about, 'What are you thinking this week?' Or 'What are you thinking next week?' It's get away from it mentally and emotionally, and then physically as your body starts to come back after a few weeks of TLC, then I think you're in a better frame of mind to contemplate your future."

"I think I can win MVP again in the right situation," Rodgers said.

Riiiight Aaron. That's what it's all about. Not winning, winning the MVP.

It's this ass clown that doesn't allow me to hate Brady the most!!!